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G'day mates - how are yew?
So I'm back, after crossing 8 timezones, starting at at 8 am n Sidney and landing at 8 am in Copenhagen the next day - or s it the previous? after a voyage of 32 hs. My first visit to someplace outside Europe and, I must say, not an experience I would have been without. The land of Oz - very welcoming, language related to English, currency razoo (?), the males are called 'mate' or 'bloke', while the females apparently can be called 'love', or, rather not, 'sheila' which latter appears pejorative. A group, regardless of gender, is 'you guys'. If the group is composed of kangaroos it is called a 'mob'. Main produce appears to be kangaroo skin hats, and slighlty oaked Chardonnays capped under stelvin. Our first meal was, not surprisingly since we lived in China town, in a Chinese restaurant, the House of Guangzhou, which had a fairly good and comprehensive wine list. This apparently was more rule than exception - the only place we did NOT find an acceptable wine list was in a Japanese teppanyaki, Ichiban, where you had the choice of one white and one red, both from Lindemans. Not spoiled for choice, there. To a Swede, wine prices in the restaurants were seriously affordable, and not much different from what we found in the few bottle shops we visited. Prices stayed mostly in the range AUD 25 - 35, with an outlier of AUD 67 for a PInot Noir from TAsmania, Fire Gully 2001, which on the one hand was quite enjoyable but on the other did not taste muchlike a PN. Lots of chocolate and mocha, black berries, but if somebody had told me it was made of Merlot rather than PN I would have accepted that without hesitation. Following the advice of Salil, we took a coach tour to Hunter Valley with Boutique Wine Tours, and visited in all 4 producers. Thank you for the tip, Salil, it was great. Favorite palces were the very small family run Ernest Hill, and the largish Brokenwood, where our experiences were better than yours (yes, we got to taste the Graveyard Shiraz which to my mind will need some serious cellar time to reach its potential) - place was rowdy and boisterous, but the service was, as almost everywhere, warm and friendly, and well-informed. Obviously the producers are busily converting to stelvin caps - out of 13 bottles brought home, 8 were uNDer stelvin. Varietal on the move: verdelho - they all had one, or several. Verdelho is of course most known as one of the 4 classical Madeira grapes - here it was vinified as a white dry table wine, with lots of tropical fruit, spicyness, soemwhat like a Muscat d' Alsace but more notes of orange zest. Recommendations were to serve it with shellfish and oriental spicy food, which may be a good idea. I wouldn't save any of these wines for the long haul - they appear to be for early drinking. Reception everywhere was on the 'I'll-put-another-shrimp-on-the-barbi-for-you' standard. And then we heard that in Oz, the Sidney-ites are noted for being a bit reserved and stuck-up. Oh dear. Favorite restaurant was 'Fish At the Rocks', the Rocks being a part of the town with a certain notoriety for good eating and drinking places. A bit like "Ma cuisine" in Beaune, but even friendlier service. Also loved 'Kobe Jones' in Darling Harbour, but don't order their house wine which we found rather uninteresting. Loved the city. Loved (what I saw of) the country. That I, besides the wine, ahve added 32 bird species to my list of firm observations, is not beside the point and next time I'll bring my binoculars. Too bad it is not reachable by Volvo. Cheers Nils Gustaf -- Respond to nils dot lindgren at drchips dot se |
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Hi Nils, good to see you back - and glad you enjoyed the trip Down
Under. Nils Gustaf Lindgren wrote: > Following the advice of Salil, we took a coach tour to Hunter Valley with > Boutique Wine Tours, and visited in all 4 producers. Thank you for the tip, > Salil, it was great. Favorite palces were the very small family run Ernest > Hill, and the largish Brokenwood, where our experiences were better than > yours (yes, we got to taste the Graveyard Shiraz which to my mind will need > some serious cellar time to reach its potential) - place was rowdy and > boisterous, but the service was, as almost everywhere, warm and friendly, > and well-informed. Just curious as to how you did the Brokenwood tour - was it with the Boutique Wine Tours group, or were you dropped off to see it alone? Either way, from what I've heard from many others, my experience there last time was a bit of an anomaly there - so when I'm next in Sydney, I'll be paying it another visit. Which were the other 2 wineries you went to? > Reception everywhere was on the > 'I'll-put-another-shrimp-on-the-barbi-for-you' standard. And then we heard > that in Oz, the Sidney-ites are noted for being a bit reserved and stuck-up. > Oh dear. Yep, still can't figure why. The people (both in the HV and the city) are very friendly and welcoming (and this was when I'd gone by in the tourist off-season). As far as hospitality goes, haven't seen many places that compare to Sydney or New Zealand for sheer warmth and friendliness. > Favorite restaurant was 'Fish At the Rocks', the Rocks being a part of the > town with a certain notoriety for good eating and drinking places. A bit > like "Ma cuisine" in Beaune, but even friendlier service. > Also loved 'Kobe Jones' in Darling Harbour, but don't order their house wine > which we found rather uninteresting. Can't go wrong with the Rocks. I'd had a number of very good meals there, including some very good pizza at Zia Pina and Italian Village. Quite envious of the dining and wining options most Sydneysiders have. Salil |
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"Salil" > skrev i meddelandet
oups.com... > Hi Nils, good to see you back - and glad you enjoyed the trip Down > Under. > > > Just curious as to how you did the Brokenwood tour - was it with the > Boutique Wine Tours group, or were you dropped off to see it alone? > Either way, from what I've heard from many others, my experience there > last time was a bit of an anomaly there - so when I'm next in Sydney, > I'll be paying it another visit. Which were the other 2 wineries you > went to? > After a hasty lunch, we scooted over to Brokenwood on our own. We had a meagre hour to visit the unlisted wineries, so we asked our driver (Klaus) which was the best and he said Brokenwood. We footed over the vineyard (saw two Crested Pigeons en route, BTW) and dived in. No worries. With the tour proper, we visited Irongate (uninteresting), Audrey Wilkinson (good Merlot, good Dessert Semillon, some acceptable whites), and Ernest Hill. Cheers Nils Gsutaf -- Respond to nils dot lindgren at drchips dot se |
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![]() Nils Gustaf Lindgren wrote: > After a hasty lunch, we scooted over to Brokenwood on our own. We had a > meagre hour to visit the unlisted wineries, so we asked our driver (Klaus) > which was the best and he said Brokenwood. We footed over the vineyard (saw > two Crested Pigeons en route, BTW) and dived in. No worries. Nice. Had gone there with a friend on a separate day trip, after first spending a couple of hours at Tempus Two. > With the tour proper, we visited Irongate (uninteresting), Audrey Wilkinson > (good Merlot, good Dessert Semillon, some acceptable whites), and Ernest > Hill. Skipped Iron Gates for Mount Pleasant, which IMO is definitely worth visiting for the dessert semillon alone. Had picked up a couple of bottles of the 98 late harvest at very reasonable prices, and they were quite stunning. Would suggest putting it on the agenda if there's a trip back to the Hunter in the future. Liked Wilkinson, particularly the dessert semillon and the liqueur verdelho. Was the Merlot in question their 03 Coonawarra Merlot? Salil |
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![]() "Salil" > skrev i meddelandet oups.com... > > Skipped Iron Gates for Mount Pleasant, which IMO is definitely worth > visiting for the dessert semillon alone. Had picked up a couple of > bottles of the 98 late harvest at very reasonable prices, and they were > quite stunning. Would suggest putting it on the agenda if there's a > trip back to the Hunter in the future. Noted. Certainly hope to get back to Oz, but will probably be Melbourne next time. > > Liked Wilkinson, particularly the dessert semillon and the liqueur > verdelho. Was the Merlot in question their 03 Coonawarra Merlot? Don't remember vintage but was definitely Coonawarra. Funny, really, Coonawarra being mostly nioted for CabSauv - this is not the first Merlot from Cw that tickles me fncy. Cheers Nils Gustaf |
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Nils Gustaf Lindgren wrote:
> Noted. Certainly hope to get back to Oz, but will probably be Melbourne next > time. Great minds thinking alike, fools differing, etc, etc. Actually looking at a couple of day trips into the Yarra Valley/around the Heathcote for this December. I'm planning to head down for the cricket on Boxing Day in Melbourne, so will almost certainly see some of the wineries in the region (and definitely do the Yarra). Keep me posted if you are heading back; might be able to provide some info from this trip as well. Ditto for Tasmania in fact, which we'll probably head to after Melbourne - not sure about how many of the wine regions we'll explore, but there'll definitely be a winery or two on the itinerary. Salil |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 06:27:06 GMT, "Nils Gustaf Lindgren"
> wrote: > >"Salil" > skrev i meddelandet roups.com... >> > >> Skipped Iron Gates for Mount Pleasant, which IMO is definitely worth >> visiting for the dessert semillon alone. Had picked up a couple of >> bottles of the 98 late harvest at very reasonable prices, and they were >> quite stunning. Would suggest putting it on the agenda if there's a >> trip back to the Hunter in the future. > >Noted. Certainly hope to get back to Oz, but will probably be Melbourne next >time. > Excellent. You will see the "cultured" side of Oz, mate...:>) hooroo.... >> >> Liked Wilkinson, particularly the dessert semillon and the liqueur >> verdelho. Was the Merlot in question their 03 Coonawarra Merlot? > >Don't remember vintage but was definitely Coonawarra. Funny, really, >Coonawarra being mostly nioted for CabSauv - this is not the first Merlot >from Cw that tickles me fncy. > >Cheers > >Nils Gustaf > |
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