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On Saturday, Jean and I hired a babysitter so that we could: 1) work on
an impending NIH grant proposal and 2) go out for a much-needed relaxing dinner afterward. Dinner was had at one of our local fine dining establishments, one with a Specular "Award of Excellence" for its wine list. With our first courses (prawn cocktail and salad of mixed field greens, caramelized pearl onions and grilled wild mushrooms) we got: 2003 Loimer "Lois" Grüner Veltliner nose: initially reticent, developing good varietal (green pea) character with some minerality in evidence palate: lightweight GV, decent concentration, crisp and refreshing A good match with the prawns and a good aperitif wine, this showed fine acidity for an '03 white. Not a complex GV by any means, but a very decent wine for the price ($22 on the wine list). It went down all too easily, considering that we were moving to red for the main courses. With our main courses (rigatone with duck, onions, portobellos in red wine-veal stock reduction for Jean and pink peppercorn-encrusted ostrich for me), we got: 2002 Feudo Arancio Nero D'Avola nose: simple, grapey palate: medium body, soft tannins, fruity, simple We were so intrigued to see a Nero D'Avola on a wine list in Indiana that we decided to give it a whirl. Another factor in our decision was that, since we'd already consumed 2/3 of a bottle of the Lois, it didn't seem prudent to spend $60 on the '03 Ridge Lytton Springs, especially since there are several bottles of it in the cellar. There was nothing wrong with this wine, but it failed to excite either of us. Overall, a very pleasant meal and we managed to remain sober throughout the meal, despite splitting two (!) full bottles with dinner. Some thoughts on the wine list: our dilemma began with no Champagne offered by the glass, an option that we often employ when getting white wine appetizers with red wine main courses. We decided to therefore get a white to start with, and the Lois was the pick of the litter in that regard. However, it was disappointing to see that there were almost no half bottles on the list, and that the year of the Lois was listed. The red selection was less interesting than that of the whites, but again only one half bottle (of a St. Supery Cab) and no year on the Nero D'Avola. This wouldn't be at all suprising for our community if it weren't for the Spec Award -- it just goes to show you how little they mean these days. Mark Lipton |
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Mark Lipton > wrote:
> 2003 Loimer "Lois" Grüner Veltliner Green synthetic stopper, cork or screwcap? If the former, I am surprised it held that well. M. |
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Joseph Coulter > wrote:
> Mark, is this the Lois that comes in a green labeled bottle with > LOIS prominent Yes. > and a stelvin closure? Don't know when Fred Loimer switched to screwcap; 2003 might have been closed with a bright green plastic stopper. > If it is I think it is a great QPR wine as I get (more recent > bottlings) for around 10USD. I wish I had some right now so I > could provide some label info. No problem, google pix exists! ;-) <http://images.derstandard.at/20060315/lois_fred250.jpg> The 2003 bottling might look like this: <http://www.weinfreak.at/weinimages/766_1_o.jpg> The 2003 label: <http://snipurl.com/x4da> M. |
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Michael Pronay wrote:
> > Green synthetic stopper, cork or screwcap? > > If the former, I am surprised it held that well. Screwcap, Michael. Does Loimer bottle his Lois under all three closures? Mark Lipton |
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Mark Lipton > wrote:
>> Green synthetic stopper, cork or screwcap? >> >> If the former, I am surprised it held that well. > Screwcap, Michael. Does Loimer bottle his Lois under all three > closures? Well, in fact I know only of synthetics (in the past) and screwcaps (nowadays, obviously starting with the 2003 vintage), but one never knows what the guys do for export markets: It all depends on what the importer wishes. But glad to hear it's in screwcaps, which, of course, explains the freshness. M. |
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![]() Mark Lipton wrote: > On Saturday, Jean and I hired a babysitter so that we could: 1) work on > an impending NIH grant proposal and 2) go out for a much-needed relaxing > dinner afterward. Dinner was had at one of our local fine dining > establishments, one with a Specular "Award of Excellence" for its wine > list. With our first courses (prawn cocktail and salad of mixed field > greens, caramelized pearl onions and grilled wild mushrooms) we got: > > 2003 Loimer "Lois" Grüner Veltliner > > nose: initially reticent, developing good varietal (green pea) character > with some minerality in evidence > palate: lightweight GV, decent concentration, crisp and refreshing > > A good match with the prawns and a good aperitif wine, this showed fine > acidity for an '03 white. Not a complex GV by any means, but a very > decent wine for the price ($22 on the wine list). It went down all too > easily, considering that we were moving to red for the main courses. > > With our main courses (rigatone with duck, onions, portobellos in red > wine-veal stock reduction for Jean and pink peppercorn-encrusted ostrich > for me), we got: > > 2002 Feudo Arancio Nero D'Avola > nose: simple, grapey > palate: medium body, soft tannins, fruity, simple > > We were so intrigued to see a Nero D'Avola on a wine list in Indiana > that we decided to give it a whirl. Another factor in our decision was > that, since we'd already consumed 2/3 of a bottle of the Lois, it didn't > seem prudent to spend $60 on the '03 Ridge Lytton Springs, especially > since there are several bottles of it in the cellar. There was nothing > wrong with this wine, but it failed to excite either of us. > > Overall, a very pleasant meal and we managed to remain sober throughout > the meal, despite splitting two (!) full bottles with dinner. Some > thoughts on the wine list: our dilemma began with no Champagne offered > by the glass, an option that we often employ when getting white wine > appetizers with red wine main courses. We decided to therefore get a > white to start with, and the Lois was the pick of the litter in that > regard. However, it was disappointing to see that there were almost no > half bottles on the list, and that the year of the Lois was listed. The > red selection was less interesting than that of the whites, but again > only one half bottle (of a St. Supery Cab) and no year on the Nero > D'Avola. This wouldn't be at all suprising for our community if it > weren't for the Spec Award -- it just goes to show you how little they > mean these days. > > Mark Lipton A lot of Nero 'dAvola is showing up on shelves these days, and a lot of different styles are produced. What other producers' wares have you sampled? |
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Michael Pronay > wrote in
: > Joseph Coulter > wrote: > >> Mark, is this the Lois that comes in a green labeled bottle with >> LOIS prominent > > Yes. > >> and a stelvin closure? > > > <http://images.derstandard.at/20060315/lois_fred250.jpg> > that is the stuff, brilliant wine goes extremely well with scallops and shrimp. -- Joseph Coulter Cruises and Vacations http://www.josephcoulter.com/ |
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