I'd like to buy something that allows me to drink wine without
oxidizing the rest of the wine that remains in the container, ie that
doesn't allow air in . I know that bag-in-box containers with a spout
will do this. But I'd like to get a permenant one so that I could fill
and refill from normal glass wine bottles. Does this exist?

> But I'd like to get a permenant one so that I could fill
> and refill from normal glass wine bottles.

How will you get the wine into it without introducing oxygen?

What I do is pour the wine that's left into a half bottle or split, just
about up to the tippy top, and then cork it. I also put a paperclip
alongside the cork so the air can escape as I put it in, then remove the
paperclip. Works very well.

Jose
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What's the difference between that and fill and use a vacu vin?



On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:49:09 GMT, Jose >
wrote:

>> But I'd like to get a permenant one so that I could fill
>> and refill from normal glass wine bottles.
>
>How will you get the wine into it without introducing oxygen?
>
>What I do is pour the wine that's left into a half bottle or split, just
>about up to the tippy top, and then cork it. I also put a paperclip
>alongside the cork so the air can escape as I put it in, then remove the
>paperclip. Works very well.
>
>Jose

> What's the difference between that and fill and use a vacu vin?

The ullage and the air pressure. IF you fill the bottle completely, you
don't need a vac-u-vin, whose purpose is to remove air (thus reducing
total oxygen content) since there won't be any to speak of. IF you
don't fill the bottle completely, then even if you drop the pressure to
half, you still have half the O2 left in the bottle to react with the
(smaller amount of) wine. Then you do need the vac-u-vin, though as a
side effect it may suck the volitailes out of the wine.

I've never done a good side-by-side test of this.

Jose
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you should drill a small hole in the center of the cork, fill the
bottle to above the cork insertion level, beat the cork into the
bottle, then put a drop of wax on the hole.

out out damned air.

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:24:48 GMT, Jose >
wrote:

>> What's the difference between that and fill and use a vacu vin?
>
>The ullage and the air pressure. IF you fill the bottle completely, you
>don't need a vac-u-vin, whose purpose is to remove air (thus reducing
>total oxygen content) since there won't be any to speak of. IF you
>don't fill the bottle completely, then even if you drop the pressure to
>half, you still have half the O2 left in the bottle to react with the
>(smaller amount of) wine. Then you do need the vac-u-vin, though as a
>side effect it may suck the volitailes out of the wine.
>
>I've never done a good side-by-side test of this.
>
>Jose

> you should drill a small hole in the center of the cork, fill the
> bottle to above the cork insertion level, beat the cork into the
> bottle, then put a drop of wax on the hole.
>
> out out damned air.

Interesting. Might even try it.

Jose
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