This weekend DH looked for Cabernet Franc. He was in CT at \

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4129/?view=beerfly

He was told that they stock what sells and Cabernet Franc does not.
They had none.
We have shopped at this wine store many times when we are in CT.

***

He was in NJ Gary's at
http://www.wineaccess.com/store/garyswine/
asking about Cabernet Franc and bought a bottle of
Fabrice Gasnier Chinon @ abt. $15.
http://vignoblegasnier.com/english/w...snier_2004.htm


There was another bottle of CF Cabernet Bourgeille Breton 2005 for $25
which he didn't buy.

I'm having Peruvian pork stew made with canary beans and rice tomorrow
or the next day, and this will be the wine I'm using.

Dee

Dee Dee wrote:

> There was another bottle of CF Cabernet Bourgeille Breton 2005 for $25
> which he didn't buy.

That's too bad. Catherine and Pierre Breton's Bourgueil is a fantastic
example of Cab Franc from the Loire. Alas, I can't tell you anything
useful about the producer you did get.

>
> I'm having Peruvian pork stew made with canary beans and rice tomorrow
> or the next day, and this will be the wine I'm using.

That sounds like a good plan. Recipe?

Mark Lipton

On Apr 1, 12:55 am, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> Dee Dee wrote:
> > There was another bottle of CF Cabernet Bourgeille Breton 2005 for $25
> > which he didn't buy.
>
> That's too bad. Catherine and Pierre Breton's Bourgueil is a fantastic
> example of Cab Franc from the Loire. Alas, I can't tell you anything
> useful about the producer you did get.
>


I would have liked to buy the $25 bottle, but alas I was not with him.
What I don't quite understand: when I described the $25 bottle, I
read it as you understood it was Catherine and Pierre Breton's
Bourgueil http://www.louisdressner.com/Breton/
Is there only ONE Breton? If I understand correctly, there is more
than one Bourgueils, but only ONE Bourgueil Breton, which is Catherine
and Pierre, right?

We drank 1/2 of the bottle of CF we bought. We tasted it before we
sat down to the meal. It was OK, but much better with the meal. But
not good enough to drink the whole bottle at one sitting. ;-))

I'm glad someone here described it as leafy, vegetable-like as I
wouldn't have been able to articulate those tastes.


> > I'm having Peruvian pork stew made with canary beans and rice tomorrow
> > or the next day, and this will be the wine I'm using.
>
> That sounds like a good plan. Recipe?

Here it is basically from the back of a Goya can of Canary Beans, but
I have cooked dried canary beans, too. One is as good as another
IMO. I only bought the dried because I can't always find the canned.
It also calls for 2 slices of bacon, but I don't use bacon, but use
pancetta instead. Bacon changes the flavor too much for me.
As for the pork tenderloin it calls for, I use a little more than 1/2
pound and spice it up a little in a slow cooker until very, very
tender. The rest of the pork loin can be used for other dishes.

Classic Peruvian Stew and Rice
One 15.5 oz. can Canary Beans, undrained
2 slices bacon, diced
1/2 lb. pork tenderloin, cubed
1/2 cup onion, diced
1 clove garlic
1/2 cup tomato sauce (I used more)
1/2 cup water
1 packet Sazon Goya with Cilantro and Annato

In saucepan on medium, cook bacon until lightly browned. Add meat,
onion and garlic and cook until meat is browned. Stir in tomato sauce
for 3 minutes. Add Sazon, beans, water and season to taste. Simmer
for 10 minutes or until desire consistency. Serve with rice.

Thanks for your advice.
Dee







>
> Mark Lipton

Dee Dee wrote:
> On Apr 1, 12:55 am, Mark Lipton > wrote:
>
>>Dee Dee wrote:
>>
>>>There was another bottle of CF Cabernet Bourgeille Breton 2005 for $25
>>>which he didn't buy.
>>
>>That's too bad. Catherine and Pierre Breton's Bourgueil is a fantastic
>>example of Cab Franc from the Loire. Alas, I can't tell you anything
>>useful about the producer you did get.
>>
>
>
>
> I would have liked to buy the $25 bottle, but alas I was not with him.
> What I don't quite understand: when I described the $25 bottle, I
> read it as you understood it was Catherine and Pierre Breton's
> Bourgueil http://www.louisdressner.com/Breton/
> Is there only ONE Breton? If I understand correctly, there is more
> than one Bourgueils, but only ONE Bourgueil Breton, which is Catherine
> and Pierre, right?

Just to be clear here, Bourgueil is the region that the wine comes from,
and C&P Breton are the winemakers. There might be another Breton making
wine in Bourgueil, but AFAIK no other Breton's wines aren't being
imported to the US.

>
> We drank 1/2 of the bottle of CF we bought. We tasted it before we
> sat down to the meal. It was OK, but much better with the meal. But
> not good enough to drink the whole bottle at one sitting. ;-))
>
> I'm glad someone here described it as leafy, vegetable-like as I
> wouldn't have been able to articulate those tastes.


You're welcome.

Mark Lipton

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 00:30:38 -0400
Mark Lipton > wrote:

> Dee Dee wrote:
> > On Apr 1, 12:55 am, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> >
> >>Dee Dee wrote:
> >>
> >>>There was another bottle of CF Cabernet Bourgeille Breton 2005 for $25
> >>>which he didn't buy.
> >>
> >>That's too bad. Catherine and Pierre Breton's Bourgueil is a fantastic
> >>example of Cab Franc from the Loire. Alas, I can't tell you anything
> >>useful about the producer you did get.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > I would have liked to buy the $25 bottle, but alas I was not with him.
> > What I don't quite understand: when I described the $25 bottle, I
> > read it as you understood it was Catherine and Pierre Breton's
> > Bourgueil http://www.louisdressner.com/Breton/
> > Is there only ONE Breton? If I understand correctly, there is more
> > than one Bourgueils, but only ONE Bourgueil Breton, which is Catherine
> > and Pierre, right?
>
> Just to be clear here, Bourgueil is the region that the wine comes from,
> and C&P Breton are the winemakers. There might be another Breton making
> wine in Bourgueil, but AFAIK no other Breton's wines aren't being
> imported to the US.
>

The plot thickens, because another name for Cabernet Franc is....
(drum roll please) ... Breton! I believe Pierre Breton makes a Chinon,
also.

I know the name Gasnier but can't recall tasting his wines. Cravant is
however a very fine terroir for Chinon.

Thanks for the link Dee. I would have sworn that Chinon is required to be
100% CF, but apparently it is not so. Always something to learn on AFW.

What happened to the trip, Mark? No time to make it over? I must say,
it's not easy to do in one day...

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Emery Davis wrote:

>
> What happened to the trip, Mark? No time to make it over? I must say,
> it's not easy to do in one day...
>
> -E

I don't know about Mark, but it would be nice for some of us if GWB had
really meant it when he said he was behind the strong dollar-while
letting it slide oops! At any rate I would welcome even the euro's
starting rate or $1.16 to the euro at this point and would be taking my
long put off Normandy, Brittany trip.

Emery Davis wrote:
> The plot thickens, because another name for Cabernet Franc is....
> (drum roll please) ... Breton! I believe Pierre Breton makes a Chinon,
> also.

Oh ho! Thanks for the information, Emery.

> What happened to the trip, Mark? No time to make it over? I must say,
> it's not easy to do in one day...

Ack!! I am so sorry that I didn't get back to you, Emery. In the end, I
had to make it as quick as possible, so no time for any excursions. I
flew into LGW on Thurs. am and out again on Sun. am, two seminars and a
memorial service later.

Mark Lipton

>
> Thanks for the link Dee. I would have sworn that Chinon is required to be
> 100% CF, but apparently it is not so. Always something to learn on AFW.

http://vignoblegasnier.com/english/w...snier_2004.htm

Even tho it does say on this site that it is 10% cab sauv, it does not
show that at all on the bottle itself.
Dee
You're half right. :-))

On 2 Apr 2007 16:02:46 -0700
"Dee Dee" > wrote:

> Even tho it does say on this site that it is 10% cab sauv, it does not
> show that at all on the bottle itself.
> Dee
> You're half right. :-))

Better that than half wrong...

I looked it up at the INAO site, currently 90% min CF (or Breton), up to 10%
Cabernet Sauvignon. Wines made before 2000 may have up to 25%
CS max.

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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:44:13 -0400
Mark Lipton > wrote:

> Ack!! I am so sorry that I didn't get back to you, Emery. In the end, I
> had to make it as quick as possible, so no time for any excursions. I
> flew into LGW on Thurs. am and out again on Sun. am, two seminars and a
> memorial service later.

Not to worry, as I forgot about it until now. This way maybe Jean will get
to share the cuvée Gonnet, too. (BTW if I open it without Adele here, I
would never hear the end of it...)

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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:28:24 -0400
Joseph Coulter > wrote:


> I don't know about Mark, but it would be nice for some of us if GWB had
> really meant it when he said he was behind the strong dollar-while
> letting it slide oops! At any rate I would welcome even the euro's
> starting rate or $1.16 to the euro at this point and would be taking my
> long put off Normandy, Brittany trip.

It'd be great to share a bottle or two, Joseph. But don't hold your
breath for 1.16, I'm afraid. Maybe by 2010 or so.

Funny how a Bush in office kills the $. Remember Bush père? It was
about equivalent at worst. When we bought the house it was at around
4.65 (FF/$), which was of course killer as Americans. By the end of Clinton
it was 7 something!

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On Apr 3, 4:01�am, Emery Davis > wrote:

> Funny how a Bush in office kills the $. *Remember Bush père? *It was
> about equivalent at worst. *When we bought the house it was at around
> 4.65 (FF/$), which was of course killer as Americans. *By the end of Clinton
> it was 7 something!
>

It's not really surprising, GHWB and GWB have some differences in
political philosophy, but both are/were pretty committed to the
primacy of American business. Every politician (liberal or
conservative) says they are committed to a strong dollar (because it
would sound bad to say that one is for a weak dollar, as a soundbite
it's suicide), but the reality is while a strong dollar has charms for
the US consumer (or tourist), for business a strong dollar can hold
many disadvantages. A weak dollar means that US exports are more
competively priced, and that imports in US are at a disadvantage
against domestic products. So it's not really surprising that some
folks "support" a strong dollar, and then are content to watch it
slide. Both strong and weak dollars have inherent advantages (and
disadvantages) for the nation.