On 11 Apr 2007 05:13:57 -0700, "DaleW" > wrote:

>On Apr 11, 1:19?am, (Hunt) wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>
>>
>>
>> >Does free count? I had dinner at a restaurant that gave you a bottle of
>> >wine with 2 entrees. It was pretty good. I don't remember any details about
>> >what the wine was. It was something like Pepperidge Hills. I only remember
>> >its name was close to Pepperidge Farms.
>>
>> >Fred.
>>
>> Um-m Pepperwood Grove? Had a nice Zin from them years ago, but all that I have
>> had since were not memorable.
>>
>> Hunt
>
>Bet you're right. I had a very good Pepperwood Grove Syrah a few years
>back. But the next year (and most PGs since) it was not nearly as
>good. The danger of those "buy in bulk" negociant wines. Similar to
>how the 47 lb rooster PN rose in price as it dived in quality.

Strange that you should mention the big bird.

Two weeks ago while roaming the local Tom Thumb Supermarket (Safeway
subsidiary) in Gainesville TX I saw the manager and a helper
scribbling on wine bottles and putting them in a shopping cart.
Thought maybe it was a bulk order or a distributor restocking
something.

Two days later saw a special display table with an array of
"discontinued" wines marked down probably to cost.

Bought up half a dozen Rex Goliaths at $5/btl--four PN and two Cab.
Was pleasantly surprised to find them both quite good. Noticed that
they are now labeled "vin du pays" and don't recall if there was a
vintage noted.

Also got a couple of Blackstone Merlot at $8 and Toasted Head Cabernet
at $8.25. Also quite good wines.

Went back to scrounge some more and found the whole lot gone.
Apparently there are some other winos with an eye for a bargain in the
Texoma area.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com

In article >,
says...
>
>On 11 Apr 2007 05:13:57 -0700, "DaleW" > wrote:
>
>>On Apr 11, 1:19?am, (Hunt) wrote:
>>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >Does free count? I had dinner at a restaurant that gave you a bottle of
>>> >wine with 2 entrees. It was pretty good. I don't remember any details
about
>>> >what the wine was. It was something like Pepperidge Hills. I only
remember
>>> >its name was close to Pepperidge Farms.
>>>
>>> >Fred.
>>>
>>> Um-m Pepperwood Grove? Had a nice Zin from them years ago, but all that I
hav
>e
>>> had since were not memorable.
>>>
>>> Hunt
>>
>>Bet you're right. I had a very good Pepperwood Grove Syrah a few years
>>back. But the next year (and most PGs since) it was not nearly as
>>good. The danger of those "buy in bulk" negociant wines. Similar to
>>how the 47 lb rooster PN rose in price as it dived in quality.
>
>Strange that you should mention the big bird.
>
>Two weeks ago while roaming the local Tom Thumb Supermarket (Safeway
>subsidiary) in Gainesville TX I saw the manager and a helper
>scribbling on wine bottles and putting them in a shopping cart.
>Thought maybe it was a bulk order or a distributor restocking
>something.
>
>Two days later saw a special display table with an array of
>"discontinued" wines marked down probably to cost.
>
>Bought up half a dozen Rex Goliaths at $5/btl--four PN and two Cab.
>Was pleasantly surprised to find them both quite good. Noticed that
>they are now labeled "vin du pays" and don't recall if there was a
>vintage noted.
>
>Also got a couple of Blackstone Merlot at $8 and Toasted Head Cabernet
>at $8.25. Also quite good wines.
>
>Went back to scrounge some more and found the whole lot gone.
>Apparently there are some other winos with an eye for a bargain in the
>Texoma area.
>
>
>Ed Rasimus

I hit a Cost Plus/World Market, just after a Renwood tasting. They had a case
of the Jackrabbit Flats at US$8/btl. I bought it in a heartbeat. The Gran Pere
and Gran Mere were US$12, and all of the bottles were autographed! Sometimes
it pays to look in the bargain bins. Who knows what you'll find. Unfortunately
for the next guy past, all were in my cart!

Hunt

On 12 Apr 2007 01:39:14 GMT, (Hunt) wrote:

>I hit a Cost Plus/World Market, just after a Renwood tasting. They had a case
>of the Jackrabbit Flats at US$8/btl. I bought it in a heartbeat. The Gran Pere
>and Gran Mere were US$12, and all of the bottles were autographed! Sometimes
>it pays to look in the bargain bins. Who knows what you'll find. Unfortunately
>for the next guy past, all were in my cart!
>
>Hunt

Be still my beating heart. You've just made me a dedicated Dumpster
Diver. I'd readily snap up all the Grand Mere you could show me for
$12/btl. Don't know that I've got the longevity to have the Grand Pere
soften the beastly tannins, but I might invest in a questionable
future just so that the nectar wouldn't fall into the hands of some
Philistine.

Enjoy, enjoy!!!


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com

In article >,
says...
>
>On 12 Apr 2007 01:39:14 GMT, (Hunt) wrote:
>
>>I hit a Cost Plus/World Market, just after a Renwood tasting. They had a
case
>>of the Jackrabbit Flats at US$8/btl. I bought it in a heartbeat. The Gran
Pere
>>and Gran Mere were US$12, and all of the bottles were autographed! Sometimes
>>it pays to look in the bargain bins. Who knows what you'll find.
Unfortunately
>>for the next guy past, all were in my cart!
>>
>>Hunt
>
>Be still my beating heart. You've just made me a dedicated Dumpster
>Diver. I'd readily snap up all the Grand Mere you could show me for
>$12/btl. Don't know that I've got the longevity to have the Grand Pere
>soften the beastly tannins, but I might invest in a questionable
>future just so that the nectar wouldn't fall into the hands of some
>Philistine.
>
>Enjoy, enjoy!!!
>
>
>Ed Rasimus

IIRC, Ed, these were the last year that the Gan Mere/Pere were actually
Renwood properties. As I recall, the name was retained, but the vineyards were
not. Seems that Mark Lipton had the info on this, and maybe can chime in.

I still have a couple (maybe 3 ea.) of these left. The Jackrabbit Flats are
long gone.

Hunt
>Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
>"When Thunder Rolled"
> www.thunderchief.org
> www.thundertales.blogspot.com

Hunt wrote:

> IIRC, Ed, these were the last year that the Gan Mere/Pere were actually
> Renwood properties. As I recall, the name was retained, but the vineyards were
> not. Seems that Mark Lipton had the info on this, and maybe can chime in.

Good memory, Hunt! The story was that the Grandpere vyd is owned by
Scott Harvey's ex-wife Terri. When he was winemaker at Renwood, they
had access to those grapes. Then, in '96 there was the now-infamous
split between Scott and Renwood, and a divorce between Scott and Terri.
She got the vineyard, Renwood got the rights to the name Grandpere and
Harvey got the hell out of Amador ;-) So, Renwood's Grandpere bottling
is made from a vineyard that came from cuttings from the "Original
Grandpere Vineyard" (as it's now known). The whole sordid tale can be
found he

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2sj2u3

Mark Lipton
Zin Groupie
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