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TN: St. Julien, St Aubin, Saintsbury, and Piocho (not a Saint)
Friday it was just Dave and I for dinner, I grilled a marinated london
broil, asparagus,and potatoes. Seemed like a good time for Bordeaux, I opened the 2004 Ch. Lagrange (St. Julien). Oak a bit much at first, but within about 30 minutes it seemed more integrated. Medium-bodied, blackcurrant and plum fruit, a vanilla edge to the oak. As evening progressed some coffee/mocha and lead pencil notes came out. Not a big wine, but pleasant modern Bordeaux. I had half a bottle left, carried the following night to a friend's for a taste (he's a Lagrange fan), but we never got around to tasting (hopefully he tried today). B/B+ Saturday I went to Marc and Annabelle's for dinner after watching Betsy's nephew's Little League game. I carried the opened Lagrange and a bottle of the 2005 Francois & Denis Clair "Les Murgers de Dents de Chien" Saint-Aubin 1er Cru. This is a bit fatter and richer than some previous vintages, but it carries it well- there's good acidic verve underneath. Bartlett pears with an overlay of hazelnut, light toasty notes. Very good for the level, went well with eggplant/proscuitto first course. B+/A- Mark had a red he wanted me to try, the 2003 Piocho Red Table Wine (Santa Ynez). He said the owner is a famous investor- he apparently can afford new oak barrels- big blast of oak on initial sniff. Actually, a little calmer on the palate. Very sweet red fruits, fairly low acidity, round and ripe. Reminds me of a midlevel Barossa Shiraz, but I think it's Cabernet/Merlot based. Not my style, B-/C+, but others would rate it much higher. Main course was grilled salmon and couscous. Mark has the 1994 Saintsbury Pinot Noir Reserve (Carneros) to serve. I'm a little wary, I drank my last 1995 a few years ago and thought this might be OTH. But while fully mature, this has plenty of life, and stays very drinkable throughout night. Perfectly ripe cherry fruit, a velvety texture but with a bright core of acids. Tannins all faded away, good length, I'm shocked how good this still is. A- Fun night with good friends, and rain stopped in time to let me happily walk home. Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency |
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St. Julien, St Aubin, Saintsbury, and Piocho (not a Saint)
"DaleW" > wrote in message ups.com... > Friday it was just Dave and I for dinner, I grilled a marinated london > broil, asparagus,and potatoes. Seemed like a good time for Bordeaux, I > opened the 2004 Ch. Lagrange (St. Julien). Oak a bit much at first, > but within about 30 minutes it seemed more integrated. Medium-bodied, > blackcurrant and plum fruit, a vanilla edge to the oak. As evening > progressed some coffee/mocha and lead pencil notes came out. Not a big > wine, but pleasant modern Bordeaux. I had half a bottle left, carried > the following night to a friend's for a taste (he's a Lagrange fan), > but we never got around to tasting (hopefully he tried today). B/B+ > Isn't it a bit early for this one or were you establishing a "benchmark" for future development? I have been holding off trying the 2001 but now I'm sorely tempted. Graham |
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St. Julien, St Aubin, Saintsbury, and Piocho (not a Saint)
On May 14, 2:38�pm, "graham" > wrote:
> "DaleW" > wrote in message > > ups.com...> Friday it was just Dave and I for dinner, I grilled a marinated london > > broil, asparagus,and potatoes. Seemed like a good time for Bordeaux, I > > opened the 2004 Ch. Lagrange (St. Julien). Oak a bit much at first, > > but within about 30 minutes it seemed more integrated. Medium-bodied, > > blackcurrant and plum fruit, a vanilla edge to the oak. As evening > > progressed some coffee/mocha and lead pencil notes came out. Not a big > > wine, but pleasant modern Bordeaux. I had half a bottle left, carried > > the following night to a friend's for a taste (he's a Lagrange fan), > > but we never got around to tasting (hopefully he tried today). B/B+ > > Isn't it a bit early for this one or were you establishing a "benchmark" for > future development? *I have been holding off trying the 2001 but now I'm > sorely tempted. > Graham I tend to like to try a Bordeax within a year or so of release, to get a handle on how I think it will age (and if I think it is something worth getting more of). I have 2 more of these, probably won't touch for 10 more years. I like the 2001. Fairly structured, I''d hold off, or decant well in advance if you try now. I put 2011 to 2020 in my personal window in CT. I haven't had since release, but Bordeaux (especially Left Bank) often shut down a couple years after release for a few years. Age 6 has a high likelihood of tightness in my (meager) experience. |
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"DaleW" > wrote in message oups.com... On May 14, 2:38?pm, "graham" > wrote: > "DaleW" > wrote in message > > ups.com...> Friday it > was just Dave and I for dinner, I grilled a marinated london > > broil, asparagus,and potatoes. Seemed like a good time for Bordeaux, I > > opened the 2004 Ch. Lagrange (St. Julien). Oak a bit much at first, > > but within about 30 minutes it seemed more integrated. Medium-bodied, > > blackcurrant and plum fruit, a vanilla edge to the oak. As evening > > progressed some coffee/mocha and lead pencil notes came out. Not a big > > wine, but pleasant modern Bordeaux. I had half a bottle left, carried > > the following night to a friend's for a taste (he's a Lagrange fan), > > but we never got around to tasting (hopefully he tried today). B/B+ > > Isn't it a bit early for this one or were you establishing a "benchmark" > for > future development? I have been holding off trying the 2001 but now I'm > sorely tempted. > Graham I tend to like to try a Bordeax within a year or so of release, to get a handle on how I think it will age (and if I think it is something worth getting more of). I have 2 more of these, probably won't touch for 10 more years. I like the 2001. Fairly structured, I''d hold off, or decant well in advance if you try now. I put 2011 to 2020 in my personal window in CT. I haven't had since release, but Bordeaux (especially Left Bank) often shut down a couple years after release for a few years. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Many thanks for your advice. I had thought that next year might be OK after reading the reviews. However, they can wait as I have a few '97 2nd Growths that I need to drink up but, after injuring my hand, I will have to find some upscale takeout to share them with friends:-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Age 6 has a high likelihood of tightness in my (meager) experience. From reading your posts, "meager" is the last word that i would have chosen!!!! Graham |
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