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So once again I was responsible for dinner Friday. I had defrosted a
big thing of some very good ham we had saved a couple months ago, and was trying to think of a plan. Somehow I started thinking about potato salad with ham in it, though I never remember eating such a thing (sounds straight out of a Garrison Keillor church potluck). When the Cooks Illustrated weekly email arrived that afternoon with a recipe for "French style potato salad, " I decided to give it a try. It turns out that adding ham to this recipe (with green beans and a mustard vinaigrette) works pretty well. Ham and mustard both suggest Riesling to me, so I went with the 2004 Willi Schaefer Estate Riesling. Bright and light, citrus (lime) fruit dominates, but little hints of apple and mineral. Fairly sweet, but the acidity totally balances it out, it goes down quickly without the sweetness standing out at all. 9% ABV, perfect summer quaffer. Not complex, but delicious. B++ Saturday we had some good friends over for dinner. Betsy made a James Boyce recipe for tomato/lobster/corn salad as first course, and we had the 2002 Donabaum "Spitzer Point" Gruner Veltliner Smaragd. Much more open than previous bottle of this, there's broad yellow plum fruit with a touch of green pea. Some pepper and ginger notes, there's a mineral/flinty base, but more fruity than earlier bottles. Good acidity stands up to the tomato and citrus zest in the salad, but the texture is broad enough for the lobster. B+ Main course was grilled strip steaks over an arugula/caper/horseradish salad, with a side of "zucchini carpaccio' (mandolined strips of zucchini in a marinade with avocado and pistachios). With the wine internet contretemps re ESJ this week, I thought it a good time to open the 2001 Edmunds St. John "Wylie-Fenaughty" Syrah. A bit tight (and a bit light) when first opened, luckily I had allowed a couple of hours before serving time for aeration. Perfect for the steaks and the piquant salad. Dark berry and cherry fruit, some smoke and earth, a little herb. Medium-framed, but mouthfilling. Good acidity, the fruit balances it out nicely. Tannins are present, but ripe and supple. I really enjoyed this (as did others). But then I've always been a bit low brow (I like the Rocks and Gravel, too). Fantastic deal at $16. A- Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency. |
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On Sep 2, 5:24?pm, DaleW > wrote:
> So once again I was responsible for dinner Friday. I had defrosted a > big thing of some very good ham we had saved a couple months ago, and > was trying to think of a plan. Somehow I started thinking about potato > salad with ham in it, though I never remember eating such a thing > (sounds straight out of a Garrison Keillor church potluck). When the > Cooks Illustrated weekly email arrived that afternoon with a recipe > for "French style potato salad, " I decided to give it a try. It turns > out that adding ham to this recipe (with green beans and a mustard > vinaigrette) works pretty well. Ham and mustard both suggest Riesling > to me, so I went with the 2004 Willi Schaefer Estate Riesling. Bright > and light, citrus (lime) fruit dominates, but little hints of apple > and mineral. Fairly sweet, but the acidity totally balances it out, it > goes down quickly without the sweetness standing out at all. 9% ABV, > perfect summer quaffer. Not complex, but delicious. B++ > > Saturday we had some good friends over for dinner. Betsy made a James > Boyce recipe for tomato/lobster/corn salad as first course, and we had > the 2002 Donabaum "Spitzer Point" Gruner Veltliner Smaragd. Much more > open than previous bottle of this, there's broad yellow plum fruit > with a touch of green pea. Some pepper and ginger notes, there's a > mineral/flinty base, but more fruity than earlier bottles. Good > acidity stands up to the tomato and citrus zest in the salad, but the > texture is broad enough for the lobster. B+ > > Main course was grilled strip steaks over an arugula/caper/horseradish > salad, with a side of "zucchini carpaccio' (mandolined strips of > zucchini in a marinade with avocado and pistachios). With the wine > internet contretemps re ESJ this week, I thought it a good time to > open the 2001 Edmunds St. John "Wylie-Fenaughty" Syrah. A bit tight > (and a bit light) when first opened, luckily I had allowed a couple of > hours before serving time for aeration. Perfect for the steaks and the > piquant salad. Dark berry and cherry fruit, some smoke and earth, a > little herb. Medium-framed, but mouthfilling. Good acidity, the fruit > balances it out nicely. Tannins are present, but ripe and supple. I > really enjoyed this (as did others). But then I've always been a bit > low brow (I like the Rocks and Gravel, too). Fantastic deal at $16. A- > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent > wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't > drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no > promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency. Apparently Schaefer bottled 3 estate QbAs in 2004, this was #1 (AP ends in 01 05) |
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DaleW wrote:
> Saturday we had some good friends over for dinner. Betsy made a James > Boyce recipe for tomato/lobster/corn salad as first course, and we had > the 2002 Donabaum "Spitzer Point" Gruner Veltliner Smaragd. Much more > open than previous bottle of this, there's broad yellow plum fruit > with a touch of green pea. Some pepper and ginger notes, there's a > mineral/flinty base, but more fruity than earlier bottles. Good > acidity stands up to the tomato and citrus zest in the salad, but the > texture is broad enough for the lobster. B+ It's been a few years since I've had this wine, Dale, but it sounds like it's really rounded into form. Nice notes! > > Main course was grilled strip steaks over an arugula/caper/horseradish > salad, with a side of "zucchini carpaccio' (mandolined strips of > zucchini in a marinade with avocado and pistachios). With the wine > internet contretemps re ESJ this week, I thought it a good time to > open the 2001 Edmunds St. John "Wylie-Fenaughty" Syrah. A bit tight > (and a bit light) when first opened, luckily I had allowed a couple of > hours before serving time for aeration. Perfect for the steaks and the > piquant salad. Dark berry and cherry fruit, some smoke and earth, a > little herb. Medium-framed, but mouthfilling. Good acidity, the fruit > balances it out nicely. Tannins are present, but ripe and supple. I > really enjoyed this (as did others). But then I've always been a bit > low brow (I like the Rocks and Gravel, too). Fantastic deal at $16. A- Thanks for this note, also, Dale. I have three bottles of this in the cellar, having first tasted it in '06 with Rahsaan and Max H. in Berkeley. It's fair to say that I severely underestimated it then, as it is still quite unready. Thanks for the update -- I think that I'll hold onto mine for a while longer (also a screaming deal at $16). Your fellow low-brow[1], Mark Lipton [1] For those confused by this: In the latest issue of the Wine Advocate, RMP slammed the wines of ESJ, calling one of them "low-brow" and adding the remark "Where's the beef?" It has become a cause celebre on the wine Internet. -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.hostexcellence.com |
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![]() "DaleW" > skrev i melding ups.com... > ...I went with the 2004 Willi Schaefer Estate Riesling. Bright > and light, citrus (lime) fruit dominates, but little hints of apple > and mineral. Fairly sweet, but the acidity totally balances it out, it > goes down quickly without the sweetness standing out at all. 9% ABV, > perfect summer quaffer. Not complex, but delicious. B++ > Leicht mineralischer Pfirsich-Apfelduft. Süße, relativ klare Frucht mit feiner Säure und spürbarer Kohlensäure, etwas Gerbstoff am Gaumen, mineralische Noten, gut zu trinken, ordentlicher Abgang. Light minerally Peach-Apple bouquet. Sweet relatively clear fruit with fine acidity and noticeable carbondioxide, some tannins in the palate. Mineral notes, good drinking, decent ending (literally translated from the German) Very good, 80 points from wein-plus with their draconian evaluations Anders P.S. Willi Schaefer and son have done a great 2006. Any wine of that vintage is a stunner... But he is getting pretty expensive, sigh... D.S. |
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The one I described was A. P.nr 25831540205
"DaleW" > skrev i melding ups.com... > Apparently Schaefer bottled 3 estate QbAs in 2004, this was #1 (AP > ends in 01 05) > |
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Anders Tørneskog wrote:
> P.S. Willi Schaefer and son have done a great 2006. Any wine of that vintage > is a stunner... But he is getting pretty expensive, sigh... Anders, just consider yourself lucky that you're not trying to buy his wines in a country whose currency just hit a 15-year low against the DM/Euro ![]() Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.hostexcellence.com |
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