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![]() I am delighted to be able to report upon a bottle of Balestard la Tonnelle 1947 which I had from the late Peter Shamash, sometime Chancellor of the Jurade, and which I had been keeping to celebrate my rather too large birthday with a wine which had been on the vine when I had been, as the lawyers say, ”en ventre ma mere”. At my age that is a humbling experience but the wine was in at least as good health as its contemporary. The bottle itself was interesting in that it bore a ”Label de Controle• on the back with the Great Seal of the Jurade de Saint-Emilion which must have been almost the first use in 250 years of the Seal and the first assertion of its historic powers of control of wine quality since the Revolution (when most of the Jurats were guillotined). I have posted photographs of bottle. seal and wine colour on the Jurade website (www.Jurade.org.uk/Tasting/gallery/index.html) if anybody is interested. The cork was in poor shape, with a smell of rot to the top half but, fortunately, solid for the last 3 or 4 mm. The initial nose was musty but a little, though very pleasing, bouquet developed on it quite soon when I decanted it very gently into a narrow necked decanter immediately before serving. I had not intended to do so but the first sip poured clearly showed that not only would it stand decanting but was likely to benefit from it. The colour was quite amazingly good, a far deeper red than I had expected with only a little brick red to brown on the rim and with only a very small clear edge to the rim — charactersitic of wine ready to drink rather than that which was in any way over the top. The wine was both at first and throughout far better in the mouth than was promised on the nose. The texture was pure silk rather than the soft velvet which I associate with other fine old wines I have drunk. On the palate it was quite dry in the middle but very well rounded. It was in length of flavour and after taste that it was so remarkable. Rich ripe fruit seemed to burst into the mouth as the wine reached the back of the mouth and it lingered powerfully for a full five minutes or so, coating the whole palate with a much fuller flavour that had been initially present with the wine still in the mouth. I had been intending to serve it with a marvellous joint of ribs of Dexter beef but in the end we drank this for pure pleasure, unaccompanied by anything. [The beef was graced instead with 1986 Figeac which was itself wonderful and we followed it with a 1998 Beausejour-Bécot with some very good Montgomery Cheddar, some Cotherstone and a new cheese which I would heartily recommend, Stichelton, a very creamy Stilton made with unpasterurised milk which makes it almost with a creamier texture and more rounded and less acidic flavours than even good Stilton. (see www.stichelton.com or http://www.nealsyarddairy.co.uk/chri...pingtips.html). Middle Eastern Orange cake was accompanied by Ch. Coutet 1980 — sadly my last bottle bought in a bin end sale some 15 years ago for GBP 7.39. We had started with a Smoked Haddock Florentine and a 1988 Binner Pinot Gris.] Just to stop people knocking on the door next year, I had better explain that, very sadly, we do not often drink like this but we rather pushed the boat out, not only to celebrate Christmas but also my 60th birthday and my father‘s 88th one. Tim Hartley |
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:29:41 GMT
Timothy Hartley > wrote: > > I am delighted to be able to report upon a bottle of Balestard la > Tonnelle 1947 which I had from the late Peter Shamash, sometime > Chancellor of the Jurade, and which I had been keeping to celebrate my > rather too large birthday with a wine which had been on the vine when > I had been, as the lawyers say, ”en ventre ma mere”. At my age that > is a humbling experience but the wine was in at least as good health > as its contemporary. The bottle itself was interesting in that it > bore a ”Label de Controle• on the back with the Great Seal of the > Jurade de Saint-Emilion which must have been almost the first use in > 250 years of the Seal and the first assertion of its historic powers > of control of wine quality since the Revolution (when most of the > Jurats were guillotined). I have posted photographs of bottle. seal > and wine colour on the Jurade website > (www.Jurade.org.uk/Tasting/gallery/index.html) if anybody is > interested. The cork was in poor shape, with a smell of rot to the > top half but, fortunately, solid for the last 3 or 4 mm. The initial > nose was musty but a little, though very pleasing, bouquet developed > on it quite soon when I decanted it very gently into a narrow necked > decanter immediately before serving. I had not intended to do so but > the first sip poured clearly showed that not only would it stand > decanting but was likely to benefit from it. The colour was quite > amazingly good, a far deeper red than I had expected with only a > little brick red to brown on the rim and with only a very small clear > edge to the rim — charactersitic of wine ready to drink rather than > that which was in any way over the top. The wine was both at first > and throughout far better in the mouth than was promised on the nose. > The texture was pure silk rather than the soft velvet which I > associate with other fine old wines I have drunk. On the palate it > was quite dry in the middle but very well rounded. It was in length > of flavour and after taste that it was so remarkable. Rich ripe > fruit seemed to burst into the mouth as the wine reached the back of > the mouth and it lingered powerfully for a full five minutes or so, > coating the whole palate with a much fuller flavour that had been > initially present with the wine still in the mouth. I had been > intending to serve it with a marvellous joint of ribs of Dexter beef > but in the end we drank this for pure pleasure, unaccompanied by > anything. [The beef was graced instead with 1986 Figeac which was > itself wonderful and we followed it with a 1998 Beausejour-Bécot with > some very good Montgomery Cheddar, some Cotherstone and a new cheese > which I would heartily recommend, Stichelton, a very creamy Stilton > made with unpasterurised milk which makes it almost with a creamier > texture and more rounded and less acidic flavours than even good > Stilton. (see www.stichelton.com or > http://www.nealsyarddairy.co.uk/chri...pingtips.html). > Middle Eastern Orange cake was accompanied by Ch. Coutet 1980 — sadly > my last bottle bought in a bin end sale some 15 years ago for GBP > 7.39. We had started with a Smoked Haddock Florentine and a 1988 > Binner Pinot Gris.] > > Just to stop people knocking on the door next year, I had better > explain that, very sadly, we do not often drink like this but we > rather pushed the boat out, not only to celebrate Christmas but also > my 60th birthday and my father‘s 88th one. > Bravo to you and father both, Tim! A more than proper celebration. Thanks very much for the notes and pictures: if the colour is true the wine is amazingly youthful looking, a tribute to a good cellar (and good bottle of course!) Sounds as if the middle dry area was the only real sign of age. What prodigious length, though. I enjoyed it vicariously. -E -- Emery Davis You can reply to ecom by removing the well known companies Questions about wine? Visit http://winefaq.hostexcellence.com |
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On Dec 31, 7:29 am, Timothy Hartley
> wrote: > I am delighted to be able to report upon a bottle of Balestard la > Tonnelle 1947 which I had from the late Peter Shamash, sometime > Chancellor of the Jurade, and which I had been keeping to celebrate my > rather too large birthday with a wine which had been on the vine when > I had been, as the lawyers say, "en ventre ma mere". At my age that > is a humbling experience but the wine was in at least as good health > as its contemporary. The bottle itself was interesting in that it > bore a "Label de Controle* on the back with the Great Seal of the > Jurade de Saint-Emilion which must have been almost the first use in > 250 years of the Seal and the first assertion of its historic powers > of control of wine quality since the Revolution (when most of the > Jurats were guillotined). I have posted photographs of bottle. seal > and wine colour on the Jurade website > (www.Jurade.org.uk/Tasting/gallery/index.html) if anybody is > interested. The cork was in poor shape, with a smell of rot to the > top half but, fortunately, solid for the last 3 or 4 mm. The initial > nose was musty but a little, though very pleasing, bouquet developed > on it quite soon when I decanted it very gently into a narrow necked > decanter immediately before serving. I had not intended to do so but > the first sip poured clearly showed that not only would it stand > decanting but was likely to benefit from it. The colour was quite > amazingly good, a far deeper red than I had expected with only a > little brick red to brown on the rim and with only a very small clear > edge to the rim -- charactersitic of wine ready to drink rather than > that which was in any way over the top. The wine was both at first > and throughout far better in the mouth than was promised on the nose. > The texture was pure silk rather than the soft velvet which I > associate with other fine old wines I have drunk. On the palate it > was quite dry in the middle but very well rounded. It was in length > of flavour and after taste that it was so remarkable. Rich ripe > fruit seemed to burst into the mouth as the wine reached the back of > the mouth and it lingered powerfully for a full five minutes or so, > coating the whole palate with a much fuller flavour that had been > initially present with the wine still in the mouth. I had been > intending to serve it with a marvellous joint of ribs of Dexter beef > but in the end we drank this for pure pleasure, unaccompanied by > anything. [The beef was graced instead with 1986 Figeac which was > itself wonderful and we followed it with a 1998 Beausejour-Bécot with > some very good Montgomery Cheddar, some Cotherstone and a new cheese > which I would heartily recommend, Stichelton, a very creamy Stilton > made with unpasterurised milk which makes it almost with a creamier > texture and more rounded and less acidic flavours than even good > Stilton. (seewww.stichelton.comorhttp://www.nealsyarddairy.co.uk/christmas_shoppingtips.html). > Middle Eastern Orange cake was accompanied by Ch. Coutet 1980 -- sadly > my last bottle bought in a bin end sale some 15 years ago for GBP > 7.39. We had started with a Smoked Haddock Florentine and a 1988 > Binner Pinot Gris.] > > Just to stop people knocking on the door next year, I had better > explain that, very sadly, we do not often drink like this but we > rather pushed the boat out, not only to celebrate Christmas but also > my 60th birthday and my father's 88th one. > > Tim Hartley Congrats on the birthdays and thanks for the notes. |
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Emery Davis > wrote: > On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:29:41 GMT > Timothy Hartley > wrote: >> >> I am delighted to be able to report upon a bottle of Balestard la >> Tonnelle 1947 which I had from the late Peter Shamash, sometime >> Chancellor of the Jurade, and which I had been keeping to celebrate my >> rather too large birthday with a wine which had been on the vine when >> I had been, as the lawyers say, ”en ventre ma mere”. At my age that >> is a humbling experience but the wine was in at least as good health >> as its contemporary. The bottle itself was interesting in that it >> bore a ”Label de Controle• on the back with the Great Seal of the >> Jurade de Saint-Emilion which must have been almost the first use in >> 250 years of the Seal and the first assertion of its historic powers >> of control of wine quality since the Revolution (when most of the >> Jurats were guillotined). I have posted photographs of bottle. seal >> and wine colour on the Jurade website >> (www.Jurade.org.uk/Tasting/gallery/index.html) if anybody is >> interested. The cork was in poor shape, with a smell of rot to the >> top half but, fortunately, solid for the last 3 or 4 mm. The initial >> nose was musty but a little, though very pleasing, bouquet developed >> on it quite soon when I decanted it very gently into a narrow necked >> decanter immediately before serving. I had not intended to do so but >> the first sip poured clearly showed that not only would it stand >> decanting but was likely to benefit from it. The colour was quite >> amazingly good, a far deeper red than I had expected with only a >> little brick red to brown on the rim and with only a very small clear >> edge to the rim — charactersitic of wine ready to drink rather than >> that which was in any way over the top. The wine was both at first >> and throughout far better in the mouth than was promised on the nose. >> The texture was pure silk rather than the soft velvet which I >> associate with other fine old wines I have drunk. On the palate it >> was quite dry in the middle but very well rounded. It was in length >> of flavour and after taste that it was so remarkable. Rich ripe >> fruit seemed to burst into the mouth as the wine reached the back of >> the mouth and it lingered powerfully for a full five minutes or so, >> coating the whole palate with a much fuller flavour that had been >> initially present with the wine still in the mouth. I had been >> intending to serve it with a marvellous joint of ribs of Dexter beef >> but in the end we drank this for pure pleasure, unaccompanied by >> anything. [The beef was graced instead with 1986 Figeac which was >> itself wonderful and we followed it with a 1998 Beausejour-Bécot with >> some very good Montgomery Cheddar, some Cotherstone and a new cheese >> which I would heartily recommend, Stichelton, a very creamy Stilton >> made with unpasterurised milk which makes it almost with a creamier >> texture and more rounded and less acidic flavours than even good >> Stilton. (see www.stichelton.com or >> http://www.nealsyarddairy.co.uk/chri...pingtips.html). >> Middle Eastern Orange cake was accompanied by Ch. Coutet 1980 — sadly >> my last bottle bought in a bin end sale some 15 years ago for GBP >> 7.39. We had started with a Smoked Haddock Florentine and a 1988 >> Binner Pinot Gris.] >> >> Just to stop people knocking on the door next year, I had better >> explain that, very sadly, we do not often drink like this but we >> rather pushed the boat out, not only to celebrate Christmas but also >> my 60th birthday and my father‘s 88th one. >> > Bravo to you and father both, Tim! A more than proper celebration. Thanks > very much for the notes and pictures: if the colour is true the wine > is amazingly > youthful looking, a tribute to a good cellar (and good bottle of > course!) Sounds > as if the middle dry area was the only real sign of age. What > prodigious length, > though. I enjoyed it vicariously. > -E Thanks for the good wishes — the colour is true on my monitor. Indeed my reason for posting the photos was to show its apparent youth - you will understand my joy at seeing it. It was a truly memorable bottle. Tim Hartley |
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On Dec 31, 7:29 am, Timothy Hartley
> wrote: > I am delighted to be able to report upon a bottle of Balestard la > Tonnelle 1947 which I had from the late Peter Shamash, sometime > Chancellor of the Jurade, and which I had been keeping to celebrate my > rather too large birthday with a wine which had been on the vine when > I had been, as the lawyers say, "en ventre ma mere". At my age that > is a humbling experience but the wine was in at least as good health > as its contemporary. The bottle itself was interesting in that it > bore a "Label de Controle* on the back with the Great Seal of the > Jurade de Saint-Emilion which must have been almost the first use in > 250 years of the Seal and the first assertion of its historic powers > of control of wine quality since the Revolution (when most of the > Jurats were guillotined). I have posted photographs of bottle. seal > and wine colour on the Jurade website > (www.Jurade.org.uk/Tasting/gallery/index.html) if anybody is > interested. The cork was in poor shape, with a smell of rot to the > top half but, fortunately, solid for the last 3 or 4 mm. The initial > nose was musty but a little, though very pleasing, bouquet developed > on it quite soon when I decanted it very gently into a narrow necked > decanter immediately before serving. I had not intended to do so but > the first sip poured clearly showed that not only would it stand > decanting but was likely to benefit from it. The colour was quite > amazingly good, a far deeper red than I had expected with only a > little brick red to brown on the rim and with only a very small clear > edge to the rim -- charactersitic of wine ready to drink rather than > that which was in any way over the top. The wine was both at first > and throughout far better in the mouth than was promised on the nose. > The texture was pure silk rather than the soft velvet which I > associate with other fine old wines I have drunk. On the palate it > was quite dry in the middle but very well rounded. It was in length > of flavour and after taste that it was so remarkable. Rich ripe > fruit seemed to burst into the mouth as the wine reached the back of > the mouth and it lingered powerfully for a full five minutes or so, > coating the whole palate with a much fuller flavour that had been > initially present with the wine still in the mouth. I had been > intending to serve it with a marvellous joint of ribs of Dexter beef > but in the end we drank this for pure pleasure, unaccompanied by > anything. [The beef was graced instead with 1986 Figeac which was > itself wonderful and we followed it with a 1998 Beausejour-Bécot with > some very good Montgomery Cheddar, some Cotherstone and a new cheese > which I would heartily recommend, Stichelton, a very creamy Stilton > made with unpasterurised milk which makes it almost with a creamier > texture and more rounded and less acidic flavours than even good > Stilton. (seewww.stichelton.comorhttp://www.nealsyarddairy.co.uk/christmas_shoppingtips.html). > Middle Eastern Orange cake was accompanied by Ch. Coutet 1980 -- sadly > my last bottle bought in a bin end sale some 15 years ago for GBP > 7.39. We had started with a Smoked Haddock Florentine and a 1988 > Binner Pinot Gris.] > > Just to stop people knocking on the door next year, I had better > explain that, very sadly, we do not often drink like this but we > rather pushed the boat out, not only to celebrate Christmas but also > my 60th birthday and my father's 88th one. > > Tim Hartley Wow, great notes! Happy Birthday! |
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Timothy Hartley wrote:
> Just to stop people knocking on the door next year, I had better > explain that, very sadly, we do not often drink like this but we > rather pushed the boat out, not only to celebrate Christmas but also > my 60th birthday and my father‘s 88th one. Thank you for that factinating note, Tim, and a (belated) very happy birthday to you! We just returned from California, where we helped my mother celcebrate her 80th. Sadly, no '27s were consumed at the event, though we did have some very nice wines (notes to follow). Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.hostexcellence.com |
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