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Down here in FL for the unpleasant task of burying our much-beloved
sister-in-law, Jean and I got away for a couple of hours to assess the wine-related changes in the little community of Ormond Beach, FL. Since our last visit 6 months ago, three new wine bar/bistro/tapas joints have opened up (!!). We made an attempt to visit all three of the new ones, but one was closed on a Monday. Our first stop was Vino100, one of a nationwide chain of wine retailers/wine bars with the slant of selling 100 different wines for $25 or less. At the tasting bar, we were given the choice of 8 whites and 8 reds. At a glance, I recognized only one producer (Avondale in South Africa). Jean and I settled on two whites, an '06 Pinot Grigio from a producer in a DOC I'd never previously heard of (Lison Pramaggiore) and imported by a firm I'd never heard of and an '06 Grillo from Western Sicily. All the wines by the glass were stored in two Wine Keeper systems and one could get a taste free of charge before ordering a (very generous) glass. Both wines were decent but unremarkable, which seemed to pretty much be the story for this place. A check of their shelves turned up fairly obscure wines and producers. Our second stop was Caffeine, advertising itself as a Bistro/Wine Bar. We walked into a little storefront Bistro with a live singer/guitarist playing music at high volume. A quick perusal of their list of 20 wines revealed mass-market wines for exorbitant price, so we excused ourselves and went elsewhere. Our third stop was supposed to be Cuvée, billed as a Wine/Tapas Bar, but alas closed on Monday. Unlike the unfortunately named Caffeine, we were intrigued by the name and layout of this place, but it will have to await another visit. Instead, we returned to the Ormond Beach Wine Company, a retailer/wine bar/Bistro that uses the same Enomatic wine dispensers that the late, unlamented VinoVenue in SF did. The wine selection here strikes a middle road between our first two experiences, serving mostly non-mass-market wines that were at least somewhat familiar to us. So, for instance, there one can buy NZ SBs from Cloudy Bay and Wither Hills as well as the near-ubiquitous Kim Crawford. They also had the Pine Ridge Chenin Blanc/Viognier ($12.99) and other recognizable QPR winners. Jean had previously bought a smart card for their Enomatics, so we put $20 on it and got a few wines, mostly for $2-3 for a 1 oz pour. 2004 Verget 'La Forêt' Chablis 1er nose: sulfur and high-toast oak palate: a huge whack of burnt matchsticks, followed by some grapefruit and stones comment: Give me an '04 Pepiere Muscadet any day over this stuff 2005 Ch. Ste. Michelle/Loosen 'Eroica' Riesling nose: stones, petrol, stone fruit palate: off dry, good acidity, peaches, stones comment: Like a good QbA Riesling to me. Quite nice, if a bit pricey. 2005 David Bruce Sonoma Pinot Noir nose: floral, red fruit palate: soft, forward Pinot fruit, medium body comment: classic soft, forward CA PN, but Jean finds it lacking in acidity and definition 2004 Chalone Pinot Noir Chalone Vineyard nose: sappy, dark red fruit palate: intense, dark fruit, good acidity comment: a much more "serious" Pinot Noir. Not bad at all, but not great value Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.hostexcellence.com |
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In article >, Mark Lipton >
wrote: > Down here in FL for the unpleasant task of burying our much-beloved > sister-in-law, Jean and I got away for a couple of hours to assess the > wine-related changes in the little community of Ormond Beach, FL. Since > our last visit 6 months ago, three new wine bar/bistro/tapas joints have > opened up (!!). We made an attempt to visit all three of the new ones, > but one was closed on a Monday. > > Our first stop was Vino100, one of a nationwide chain of wine > retailers/wine bars with the slant of selling 100 different wines for > $25 or less. At the tasting bar, we were given the choice of 8 whites > and 8 reds. At a glance, I recognized only one producer (Avondale in > South Africa). Jean and I settled on two whites, an '06 Pinot Grigio > from a producer in a DOC I'd never previously heard of (Lison > Pramaggiore) and imported by a firm I'd never heard of and an '06 Grillo > from Western Sicily. All the wines by the glass were stored in two Wine > Keeper systems and one could get a taste free of charge before ordering > a (very generous) glass. Both wines were decent but unremarkable, which > seemed to pretty much be the story for this place. A check of their > shelves turned up fairly obscure wines and producers. > > Our second stop was Caffeine, advertising itself as a Bistro/Wine Bar. > We walked into a little storefront Bistro with a live singer/guitarist > playing music at high volume. A quick perusal of their list of 20 wines > revealed mass-market wines for exorbitant price, so we excused ourselves > and went elsewhere. > > Our third stop was supposed to be Cuvée, billed as a Wine/Tapas Bar, but > alas closed on Monday. Unlike the unfortunately named Caffeine, we were > intrigued by the name and layout of this place, but it will have to > await another visit. > > Instead, we returned to the Ormond Beach Wine Company, a retailer/wine > bar/Bistro that uses the same Enomatic wine dispensers that the late, > unlamented VinoVenue in SF did. The wine selection here strikes a > middle road between our first two experiences, serving mostly > non-mass-market wines that were at least somewhat familiar to us. So, > for instance, there one can buy NZ SBs from Cloudy Bay and Wither Hills > as well as the near-ubiquitous Kim Crawford. They also had the Pine > Ridge Chenin Blanc/Viognier ($12.99) and other recognizable QPR winners. > Jean had previously bought a smart card for their Enomatics, so we put > $20 on it and got a few wines, mostly for $2-3 for a 1 oz pour. > > 2004 Verget 'La Forêt' Chablis 1er > nose: sulfur and high-toast oak > palate: a huge whack of burnt matchsticks, followed by some grapefruit > and stones > comment: Give me an '04 Pepiere Muscadet any day over this stuff > > 2005 Ch. Ste. Michelle/Loosen 'Eroica' Riesling > nose: stones, petrol, stone fruit > palate: off dry, good acidity, peaches, stones > comment: Like a good QbA Riesling to me. Quite nice, if a bit pricey. > > 2005 David Bruce Sonoma Pinot Noir > nose: floral, red fruit > palate: soft, forward Pinot fruit, medium body > comment: classic soft, forward CA PN, but Jean finds it lacking in > acidity and definition > > 2004 Chalone Pinot Noir Chalone Vineyard > nose: sappy, dark red fruit > palate: intense, dark fruit, good acidity > comment: a much more "serious" Pinot Noir. Not bad at all, but not > great value > > Mark Lipton Interesting review. Sorry to hear the reason you went though. |
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On Jun 16, 11:23�pm, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> Down here in FL for the unpleasant task of burying our much-beloved > sister-in-law, Jean and I got away for a couple of hours to assess the > wine-related changes in the little community of Ormond Beach, FL. �Since > our last visit 6 months ago, three new wine bar/bistro/tapas joints have > opened up (!!). �We made an attempt to visit all three of the new ones, > but one was closed on a Monday. > > Our first stop was Vino100, one of a nationwide chain of wine > retailers/wine bars with the slant of selling 100 different wines for > $25 or less. �At the tasting bar, we were given the choice of 8 whites > and 8 reds. �At a glance, I recognized only one producer (Avondale in > South Africa). �Jean and I settled on two whites, an '06 Pinot Grigio > from a producer in a DOC I'd never previously heard of (Lison > Pramaggiore) and imported by a firm I'd never heard of and an '06 Grillo > from Western Sicily. �All the wines by the glass were stored in two Wine > Keeper systems and one could get a taste free of charge before ordering > a (very generous) glass. �Both wines were decent but unremarkable, which > seemed to pretty much be the story for this place. �A check of their > shelves turned up fairly obscure wines and producers. > > Our second stop was Caffeine, advertising itself as a Bistro/Wine Bar. > We walked into a little storefront Bistro with a live singer/guitarist > playing music at high volume. �A quick perusal of their list of 20 wines > revealed mass-market wines for exorbitant price, so we excused ourselves > and went elsewhere. > > Our third stop was supposed to be Cuv�e, billed as a Wine/Tapas Bar, but > alas closed on Monday. �Unlike the unfortunately named Caffeine, we were > intrigued by the name and layout of this place, but it will have to > await another visit. > > Instead, we returned to the Ormond Beach Wine Company, a retailer/wine > bar/Bistro that uses the same Enomatic wine dispensers that the late, > unlamented VinoVenue in SF did. �The wine selection here strikes a > middle road between our first two experiences, serving mostly > non-mass-market wines that were at least somewhat familiar to us. �So, > for instance, there one can buy NZ SBs from Cloudy Bay and Wither Hills > as well as the near-ubiquitous Kim Crawford. �They also had the Pine > Ridge Chenin Blanc/Viognier ($12.99) and other recognizable QPR winners. > �Jean had previously bought a smart card for their Enomatics, so we put > $20 on it and got a few wines, mostly for $2-3 for a 1 oz pour. > > 2004 Verget 'La For�t' Chablis 1er > nose: sulfur and high-toast oak > palate: a huge whack of burnt matchsticks, followed by some grapefruit > and stones > comment: Give me an '04 Pepiere Muscadet any day over this stuff > > 2005 Ch. Ste. Michelle/Loosen 'Eroica' Riesling > nose: stones, petrol, stone fruit > palate: off dry, good acidity, peaches, stones > comment: Like a good QbA Riesling to me. �Quite nice, if a bit pricey. > > 2005 David Bruce Sonoma Pinot Noir > nose: floral, red fruit > palate: soft, forward Pinot fruit, medium body > comment: classic soft, forward CA PN, but Jean finds it lacking in > acidity and definition > > 2004 Chalone Pinot Noir Chalone Vineyard > nose: sappy, dark red fruit > palate: intense, dark fruit, good acidity > comment: a much more "serious" Pinot Noir. �Not bad at all, but not > great value > > Mark Lipton > -- > alt.food.wine FAQ: �http://winefaq.hostexcellence.com Sorry for your loss, please extend our sympathy to Jean. |
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