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Hello,
After discussion with the esteemed Herr Professor Lipton, I managed to weed, cut down, and prune my presentation of Bourgogne (or Burgundy, if you so prefer) to 192 words, approximatively. Here it follows: Bourgogne as a wine making region is, mostly, a long escarpment of Jurassic lime mixed with clay, stretching from Dijon in the north to northern Beaujolais in the south. Separated from it are the vineyards of Yonne, centered on Chablis. The escarpment is divided in separate subregions due to differences in soil and climate: From north to south Cote de Nuits and Cote de Beaune (together forming Cote d'Or), Cote Chalonnaise, and Cote Maconnaise. Varietals of primary importance are, for red wines Pinot Noire, for white Chardonnay; secondary varietals are Gamay for reds, and Aligoté for whites. Other varieties have local importance. In terms of quality, the ladder of appellations starts with the region, Appellation Bourgogne Controllé, with subclassifications due to geographical provenance and differences in vinification. Next step would be commune, or village. This level exists in all the mentioned subregions. Premier cru (first growth) is a subclassification of superior vineyards in the village appellations. This level does not exist in Cote Maconnaise. Grand cru (great growth) is the top level growth place of grapes for the best wines, with prices to match. Grand cru exists only in Cote d'Or and Chablis. Your opinions are eagerly sought. Cheers Nils |
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On Aug 4, 8:53�am, "Nils Gustaf Lindgren"
> wrote: > Hello, > After discussion with the esteemed Herr Professor Lipton, I managed to weed, > cut down, and prune my presentation of Bourgogne (or Burgundy, if you so > prefer) to 192 words, approximatively. > Here it follows: > Bourgogne as a wine making region is, mostly, a long escarpment of Jurassic > lime mixed with clay, stretching from Dijon in the north to northern > Beaujolais in the south. Separated from it are the vineyards of Yonne, > centered on Chablis. The escarpment is divided in separate subregions due to > differences in soil and climate: From north to south Cote de Nuits and Cote > de Beaune (together forming Cote d'Or), Cote Chalonnaise, and Cote > Maconnaise. > > Varietals of primary importance are, for red wines Pinot Noire, for white > Chardonnay; secondary varietals are Gamay for reds, and Aligot� for whites. > Other varieties have local importance. > > In terms of quality, the ladder of appellations starts with the region, > Appellation Bourgogne Controll� with subclassifications due to geographical > provenance and differences in vinification. > > Next step would be commune, or village. This level exists in all the > mentioned subregions. Premier cru (first growth) is a subclassification of > superior vineyards in the village appellations. This level does not exist in > Cote Maconnaise. Grand cru (great growth) is the top level growth place of > grapes for the best wines, with prices to match. Grand cru exists only in > Cote d'Or and Chablis. > > Your opinions are eagerly sought. > > Cheers > > Nils Well, you seemed to reach all of the importatn points of a very complex appelation and all in 192 words! |
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Bourgogne as a wine making region is a long escarpment of Jurassic lime
mixed with clay, stretching from Dijon in the north to northern Beaujolais in the south. Separated from it are the vineyards of Yonne, centered on Chablis. The escarpment is divided in separate subregions due to differences in soil and climate: From north to south Côte de Nuits and Côte de Beaune (together forming Côte d'Or), Côte Chalonnaise, and Côte Maconnaise. Varietals of primary importance are, for red wines Pinot Noire, for white Chardonnay; secondary varietals are Gamay for reds, and Aligoté for whites. Other varieties have local importance, such as, Sauvignon Blanc in St Bris, and Caesar in Irancy. In terms of quality, the ladder of appellations starts with the region, Appellation Bourgogne Controllée, with subclassifications due to geographical provenance and differences in vinification. Next step would be commune, or village. This level exists in all the mentioned subregions. Premier cru (first growth) is a subclassification of superior vineyards in the village appellations. This level does not exist in Côte Mconnaise. Grand cru (great growth) is the top level growth place of grapes for the best wines, with prices to match. Grand cru exists only in Côte d'Or and Chablis. |
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In article >, Nils Gustaf Lindgren
> writes >Bourgogne as a wine making region is a long escarpment of Jurassic lime >mixed with clay, stretching from Dijon in the north to northern Beaujolais >in the south. Separated from it are the vineyards of Yonne, centered on >Chablis. The escarpment is divided in separate subregions due to differences >in soil and climate: From north to south Côte de Nuits and Côte de Beaune >(together forming Côte d'Or), Côte Chalonnaise, and Côte Maconnaise. > >Varietals of primary importance are, for red wines Pinot Noire, for white >Chardonnay; secondary varietals are Gamay for reds, and Aligoté for whites. >Other varieties have local importance, such as, Sauvignon Blanc in St Bris, >and Caesar in Irancy. > >In terms of quality, the ladder of appellations starts with the region, >Appellation Bourgogne Controllée, with subclassifications due to >geographical provenance and differences in vinification. > >Next step would be commune, or village. This level exists in all the >mentioned subregions. Premier cru (first growth) is a subclassification of >superior vineyards in the village appellations. This level does not exist in >Côte Mconnaise. Grand cru (great growth) is the top level growth place of >grapes for the best wines, with prices to match. Grand cru exists only in >Côte d'Or and Chablis. > > You still need to change Pinot Noire to Pinot Noir Sheila -- --- Sheila Page |
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Bourgogne as a wine making region is a long escarpment of Jurassic lime
mixed with clay, stretching from Dijon in the north to northern Beaujolais in the south. Separated from it are the vineyards of Yonne, centered on Chablis. The escarpment is divided in separate subregions due to differences in soil and climate: From north to south Côte de Nuits and Côte de Beaune (together forming Côte d'Or), Côte Chalonnaise, and Côte Mconnaise. Varietals of primary importance are, for red wines Pinot Noire, for white Chardonnay; secondary varietals are Gamay for reds, and Aligoté for whites. Other varieties have local importance, such as, Sauvignon Blanc in St Bris, and Caesar in Irancy. In terms of quality, the ladder of appellations starts with the region, Appellation Bourgogne Controllée, with subclassifications due to geographical provenance and differences in vinification. There are at least 23 different sub classes. Next step is commune, or village, of which there are 44. This level exists in all the mentioned subregions; 30 are in Côte d'Or. Premier cru (first growth) is a subclassification of superior vineyards in the village appellations. This level does not exist in Côte Mconnaise. There are 562 1er crus: 39 in Chablis, 129 in Côte Chalonnaise, the rest in Côte d'Or. Grand cru (great growth) is the top level growth place of grapes for the best wines, with prices to match. Grand cru exists only in Côte d'Or (31) and Chablis (1). |
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Bourgogne as a wine making region is a long escarpment of Jurassic lime
mixed with clay, stretching from Dijon in the north to northern Beaujolais in the south. Separated from it are the vineyards of Yonne, centered on Chablis. The escarpment is divided in separate subregions due to differences in soil and climate: From north to south Côte de Nuits and Côte de Beaune (together forming Côte d'Or), Côte Chalonnaise, and Côte Mconnaise. Varietals of primary importance are, for red wines Pinot Noir, for white Chardonnay; secondary varietals are Gamay for reds, and Aligoté for whites. Other varieties have local importance, such as, Sauvignon Blanc in St Bris, and Caesar in Irancy. In terms of quality, the ladder of appellations starts with the region, Appellation Bourgogne Controllée, with subclassifications due to geographical provenance and differences in vinification. There are at least 23 different sub classes. Next step is commune, or village, of which there are 44. This level exists in all the mentioned subregions; 30 are in Côte d'Or. Premier cru (first growth) is a subclassification of superior vineyards in the village appellations. This level does not exist in Côte Mconnaise. There are 562 1er crus: 39 in Chablis, 129 in Côte Chalonnaise, the rest in Côte d'Or. Grand cru (great growth) is the top level growth place of grapes for the best wines, with prices to match. Grand cru exists only in Côte d'Or (31) and Chablis (1). |
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On Aug 4, 12:49�pm, "Nils Gustaf Lindgren"
> wrote: > Bourgogne as a wine making region is a long escarpment of Jurassic lime > mixed with clay, stretching from Dijon in the north to northern Beaujolais > in the south. Separated from it are the vineyards of Yonne, centered on > Chablis. The escarpment is divided in separate subregions due to differences > in soil and climate: From north to south C�te de Nuits and C�te de Beaune > (together forming C�te d'Or), C�te Chalonnaise, and C�te M�connaise. > > Varietals of primary importance are, for red wines Pinot Noir, for white > Chardonnay; secondary varietals are Gamay for reds, and Aligot� for whites. > Other varieties have local importance, such as, Sauvignon Blanc in St Bris, > and Caesar in Irancy. > > In terms of quality, the ladder of appellations starts with the region, > Appellation Bourgogne Controll�e, with subclassifications due to > geographical provenance and differences in vinification. There are at least > 23 different sub classes. > > Next step is commune, or village, of which there are 44. This level exists > in all the mentioned subregions; 30 are in C�te d'Or. > > Premier cru (first growth) is a subclassification of superior vineyards in > the village appellations. This level does not exist in C�te M�connaise. > There are 562 1er crus: 39 in Chablis, 129 in C�te Chalonnaise, the rest in > C�te d'Or. > > Grand cru (great growth) is the top level growth place of grapes for the > best wines, with prices to match. Grand cru exists only in C�te d'Or (31) > and Chablis (1). Very nice, thanks Nils Gustaf. You might want to start off with "Bourgogne (aka Burgundy)" I know it seems self-evident, but these things are geared towards newbies. Thanks for your work! |
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Mike Tommasi > wrote:
Only once, but it has been misspelled throughout the whole thread: > Some spelling corrections (or typos for the keyboard accent > impaired): Côte ..., Côte Mconnaise, Appellation Bourgogne > Controllée, Pinot Noir ^^^ ||| Contrôlée M. |
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[Only once, but it has been misspelled throughout the whole
thread] Mike Tommasi > wrote: > Some spelling corrections (or typos for the keyboard accent > impaired): Côte ..., Côte Mconnaise, Appellation Bourgogne > Controllée, Pinot Noir ^^^ ||| Contrôlée M. |
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(Takes deep breath, finds inner centre of stillness, contemplates innermost
being and counts to ten ...): Bourgogne (aka Burgundy) as a wine making region is a long escarpment of Jurassic lime mixed with clay, stretching from Dijon in the north to northern Beaujolais in the south. Separated from it are the vineyards of Yonne, centered on Chablis. The escarpment is divided in separate subregions due to differences in soil and climate: From north to south Côte de Nuits and Côte de Beaune (together forming Côte d'Or), Côte Chalonnaise, and Côte Mconnaise. Varietals of primary importance are, for red wines Pinot Noir, for white Chardonnay; secondary varietals are Gamay for reds, and Aligoté for whites. Other varieties have local importance, such as, Sauvignon Blanc in St Bris, and Caesar in Irancy. In terms of quality, the ladder of appellations starts with the region, Appellation Bourgogne Contrôlée, with subclassifications due to geographical provenance and differences in vinification. There are at least 23 different sub classes. Next step is commune, or village, of which there are 44. This level exists in all the mentioned subregions; 30 are in Côte d'Or. Premier cru (first growth) is a subclassification of superior vineyards in the village appellations. This level does not exist in Côte Mconnaise. There are 562 1er crus: 39 in Chablis, 129 in Côte Chalonnaise, the rest in Côte d'Or. Grand cru (great growth) is the top level growth place of grapes for the best wines, with prices to match. Grand cru exists only in Côte d'Or (31) and Chablis (1). |
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Nils Gustaf Lindgren wrote:
> (Takes deep breath, finds inner centre of stillness, contemplates innermost > being and counts to ten ...): Thanks very much for putting this together. I just got back from vacation, so here are my comments (FWTW): > > Bourgogne (aka Burgundy) as a wine making region is a long escarpment of > Jurassic lime mixed with clay, stretching from Dijon in the north to > northern Beaujolais in the south. Separated from it are the vineyards of > Yonne, centered on Chablis. The escarpment is divided in separate subregions > due to differences in soil and climate: From north to south Côte de Nuits > and Côte de Beaune (together forming Côte d'Or), Côte Chalonnaise, and Côte > Mconnaise. How about a paragraph of touristic information? How far from Paris? How does one reach there if not equipped with an auto (or should one not even contemplate such a trip?) Where should one stay (geographically) for a visit (Dijon? Beaune? pros/cons?) > > > > Varietals of primary importance are, for red wines Pinot Noir, for white > Chardonnay; secondary varietals are Gamay for reds, and Aligoté for whites. > Other varieties have local importance, such as, Sauvignon Blanc in St Bris, > and Caesar in Irancy. ^^^^^^ Cesar, non? Very nice precis, Nils. Bravo! Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net |
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Mark Lipton wrote:
> How about a paragraph of touristic information? How far from Paris? > How does one reach there if not equipped with an auto (or should one not > even contemplate such a trip?) Where should one stay (geographically) > for a visit (Dijon? Beaune? pros/cons?) p.s. Nils, if you're feeling beleaguered and overworked, let me know and I'll bang one out for you. When all is done, I'll post a "working copy" of the Bourgogne section for further comments/corrections before it goes "live" in the FAQ. Your humble FAQ editor, Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net |
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