I was given a bottle of wine which after tasting, I am not sure if it's
still fit for consumption.
Bottle description:
- 375ml dessert wine style bottle (like a half-sized German Riesling bottle
tinted dark),
- natural cork,
- labeled Southern Crossing New Zealand
- 100% Pinot noir
- Alc.= 12.5%
- uncorked very easily,
- cork condition looks ok (moist at wine side and dry the other).
Content and taste description:
- colour very similar to port wine (reddish brown) and quite cloudy.
- bone-dry!! (I was shocked). Has a musty aroma ,
- rediculous amount of sediment.
Can it still be drunk?
Regards
Raymond

"Raymond" > wrote in
:

> I was given a bottle of wine which after tasting, I am not sure if
> it's still fit for consumption.
> Bottle description:
> - 375ml dessert wine style bottle (like a half-sized German Riesling
> bottle tinted dark),
> - natural cork,
> - labeled Southern Crossing New Zealand
> - 100% Pinot noir
> - Alc.= 12.5%
> - uncorked very easily,
> - cork condition looks ok (moist at wine side and dry the other).
> Content and taste description:
> - colour very similar to port wine (reddish brown) and quite cloudy.
> - bone-dry!! (I was shocked). Has a musty aroma ,
> - rediculous amount of sediment.
> Can it still be drunk?
> Regards
> Raymond
>
>

sounds like an oxidized bottle, (loose cork, brownish color) Can it be
drunk? Question for me is why?

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On Oct 21, 7:17�am, "Raymond" > wrote:
> I was given a bottle of wine which after tasting, I am not sure if it's
> still fit for consumption.
> Bottle description:
> - 375ml dessert wine style bottle (like a half-sized German Riesling bottle
> tinted dark),
> - natural cork,
> - labeled Southern Crossing New Zealand
> - 100% Pinot noir
> - Alc.= 12.5%
> - uncorked very easily,
> - cork condition looks ok (moist at wine side and dry the other).
> Content and taste description:
> - colour very similar to port wine (reddish brown) and quite cloudy.
> - bone-dry!! (I was shocked). Has a musty aroma ,
> - rediculous amount of sediment.
> Can it still be drunk?
> Regards
> Raymond

Certainly safe to drink, but doesn't sound very enjoyable.
Strange to use a Riesling style bottle for a PN, certainly there are
plenty of 375s in Burg style.
What year was this?

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:17:32 +0800, "Raymond" >
wrote:

> I was given a bottle of wine which after tasting, I am not sure if it's
> still fit for consumption.
> Bottle description:
> - 375ml dessert wine style bottle (like a half-sized German Riesling bottle
> tinted dark),
> - natural cork,
> - labeled Southern Crossing New Zealand
> - 100% Pinot noir
> - Alc.= 12.5%
> - uncorked very easily,
> - cork condition looks ok (moist at wine side and dry the other).
> Content and taste description:
> - colour very similar to port wine (reddish brown) and quite cloudy.
> - bone-dry!! (I was shocked). Has a musty aroma ,
> - rediculous amount of sediment.
> Can it still be drunk?


It sounds oxidized and terrible, but you should note that when you ask
"Can it still be drunk?" the answer is always yes. When wine goes bad,
the result is a bad taste, not something that you can not drink or is
in any way poisonous.

Personally, I wouldn't *want* to drink it, but if you do, you may.

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Ken Blake wrote:

> It sounds oxidized and terrible, but you should note that when you ask
> "Can it still be drunk?" the answer is always yes. When wine goes bad,
> the result is a bad taste, not something that you can not drink or is
> in any way poisonous.
>
> Personally, I wouldn't *want* to drink it, but if you do, you may.

Only way for the OP to tell is to try it. If it is corked its a good
way to learn and then realize it from the smell before using the tongue.
His description doesn't really give enough to know for sure. Many
wines have lots of sediment and an easy cork pull maybe subjective.

How long does a typical PN age before peaking? I'm guessing 4-5 years
or are there some that will age much longer? My experience is mostly
California and Oregon PN's.

On Oct 21, 7:17�am, "Raymond" > wrote:
> I was given a bottle of wine which after tasting, I am not sure if it's
> still fit for consumption.
> Bottle description:
> - 375ml dessert wine style bottle (like a half-sized German Riesling bottle
> tinted dark),
> - natural cork,
> - labeled Southern Crossing New Zealand
> - 100% Pinot noir
> - Alc.= 12.5%
> - uncorked very easily,
> - cork condition looks ok (moist at wine side and dry the other).
> Content and taste description:
> - colour very similar to port wine (reddish brown) and quite cloudy.
> - bone-dry!! (I was shocked). Has a musty aroma ,
> - rediculous amount of sediment.
> Can it still be drunk?
> Regards
> Raymond

It appears that you have already opened the bottle and if that's the
case it should have been consumed shortly after opening if not within
a few hours. If you tasted it and liked it then you can drink it,
it's not poisonous.

miles wrote on Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:54:52 -0700:

>> It sounds oxidized and terrible, but you should note that
>> when you ask "Can it still be drunk?" the answer is always
>> yes. When wine goes bad, the result is a bad taste, not
>> something that you can not drink or is in any way poisonous.
>>
>> Personally, I wouldn't *want* to drink it, but if you do, you
>> may.

> Only way for the OP to tell is to try it. If it is corked its
> a good way to learn and then realize it from the smell before using
> the tongue. His description doesn't really give enough
> to know for sure. Many wines have lots of sediment and an
> easy cork pull maybe subjective.

It's a statistic of one, I know but my nephew passed out after drinking
some mildly corked French wine. His mother and myself did not think it
was too bad and he had never displayed much sensitivity previously!

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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Oct 22, 2:08�pm, "James Silverton" >
wrote:
> �miles �wrote �on Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:54:52 -0700:
>
> >> It sounds oxidized and terrible, but you should note that
> >> when you ask "Can it still be drunk?" the answer is always
> >> yes. When wine goes bad, the result is a bad taste, not
> >> something that you can not drink or is in any way poisonous.
>
> >> Personally, I wouldn't *want* to drink it, but if you do, you
> >> may.
> > Only way for the OP to tell is to try it. �If it is corked its
> > a good way to learn and then realize it from the smell before using
> > the tongue. His description doesn't really give enough
> > to know for sure. �Many wines have lots of sediment and an
> > easy cork pull maybe subjective.
>
> It's a statistic of one, I know but my nephew passed out after drinking
> some mildly corked French wine. His mother and myself did not think it
> was too bad and he had never displayed much sensitivity previously!
>
> --
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Maybe he was shocked by the premise that a French wine could be
corked..:-)

Bi!! wrote:

> It appears that you have already opened the bottle and if that's the
> case it should have been consumed shortly after opening if not within
> a few hours.

Typically I agree. I was visiting Plumpjack winery in Napa and they had
me taste one of their upper end Cabs. Very nice but not spectacular.
Then he poured some from a bottle under the counter and said try this.
I tasted and now we were getting somewhere. It was spectacular. I
asked what Cab am I drinking now? His reply, 'same Cab, opened yesterday'.

On Oct 22, 8:49�pm, Miles > wrote:
> Bi!! wrote:
> > It appears that you have already opened the bottle and if that's the
> > case it should have been consumed shortly after opening if not within
> > a few hours.
>
> Typically I agree. �I was visiting Plumpjack winery in Napa and they had
> me taste one of their upper end Cabs. �Very nice but not spectacular.
> Then he poured some from a bottle under the counter and said try this.
> I tasted and now we were getting somewhere. �It was spectacular. �I
> asked what Cab am I drinking now? �His reply, 'same Cab, opened yesterday'.

My remark was made under the assumption that the wine was looking,
smelling and tasting quite old by the OP's discription and since he
had already opened the bottle and it appeared to be old....I was a bit
confused as to when he was going to actually drink it if he took the
time to ask this group if it was safe. I've had many younger wines
(and a few older ones) that lasted quite well for a day or two and
many improved over night, however when a wine looks old, smells old
and tastes old, it usually won't improve over night and where it is at
the one hour mark is usually as good as it's going to get.