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AndyHancock 09-06-2009 11:55 AM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
I find that a glass of red per evening consistently causes early
wakefulness. I wonder how people enjoy this routine without such
consequences (which becomes rather significant over the long term).
In particular, I wonder how this is approached by those people who
return home rather late, and hence don't have the option of moving it
earlier into the evening.

Bi!! 09-06-2009 12:58 PM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
Not everybody is affected the saem way by wine. For instance, a cup
of coffee in the evening keeps me up all night so I don't drink coffee
in the evening. It's a choice.




On Jun 9, 6:55�am, AndyHancock > wrote:
> I find that a glass of red per evening consistently causes early
> wakefulness. �I wonder how people enjoy this routine without such
> consequences (which becomes rather significant over the long term).
> In particular, I wonder how this is approached by those people who
> return home rather late, and hence don't have the option of moving it
> earlier into the evening.


Dee Randall 09-06-2009 02:55 PM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 

"AndyHancock" > wrote in message
...
>I find that a glass of red per evening consistently causes early
> wakefulness. I wonder how people enjoy this routine without such
> consequences (which becomes rather significant over the long term).
> In particular, I wonder how this is approached by those people who
> return home rather late, and hence don't have the option of moving it
> earlier into the evening.



What time is "evening" and "earlier into the evening."

Is the glass with or without food.
I'd say that would make a difference. Try something you like to snack on
with your red wine.

Dee Dee



Anders Tørneskog 09-06-2009 02:59 PM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 

"AndyHancock" > skrev i melding
...
>I find that a glass of red per evening consistently causes early
> wakefulness. I wonder how people enjoy this routine without such
> consequences (which becomes rather significant over the long term).
> In particular, I wonder how this is approached by those people who
> return home rather late, and hence don't have the option of moving it
> earlier into the evening.


Drink 2 glasses instead...

Anders



Patok[_2_] 09-06-2009 08:22 PM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
Anders Tørneskog wrote:
> "AndyHancock" > skrev i melding
> ...
>> I find that a glass of red per evening consistently causes early
>> wakefulness. I wonder how people enjoy this routine without such
>> consequences (which becomes rather significant over the long term).
>> In particular, I wonder how this is approached by those people who
>> return home rather late, and hence don't have the option of moving it
>> earlier into the evening.

>
> Drink 2 glasses instead...


If he sees problems from one glass, 2 will probably make it worse.
But it's worth a try. I experience that problem (waking up early next
morning), only after consuming a lot of wine (at least one bottle). Two
or three glasses do not create any problems for me.

--
You'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone.

AndyHancock 10-06-2009 01:45 AM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
On Jun 9, 9:55*am, "Dee Randall" > wrote:
> "AndyHancock" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >I find that a glass of red per evening consistently causes early
> > wakefulness. *I wonder how people enjoy this routine without such
> > consequences (which becomes rather significant over the long term).
> > In particular, I wonder how this is approached by those people who
> > return home rather late, and hence don't have the option of moving it
> > earlier into the evening.

>
> What time is "evening" and "earlier into the evening."
>
> Is the glass with or without food.
> I'd say that would make a difference. *Try something you like to snack on
> with your red wine.


Evening is around 11pm. Earlier is around 9:30-10pm.

I like to savour the flavour on its own, so if I had to consume it
with food, I'd probably just forgo the experience. This is simply an
exploration...

AndyHancock 10-06-2009 01:46 AM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
True...it comes down to a choice not to indulge, for the sake of
sleep.

On Jun 9, 7:58*am, "Bi!!" > wrote:
> Not everybody is affected the saem way by wine. *For instance, a cup
> of coffee in the evening keeps me up all night so I don't drink coffee
> in the evening. *It's a choice.
>
> On Jun 9, 6:55 am, AndyHancock > wrote:
>
> > I find that a glass of red per evening consistently causes early
> > wakefulness. I wonder how people enjoy this routine without such
> > consequences (which becomes rather significant over the long term).
> > In particular, I wonder how this is approached by those people who
> > return home rather late, and hence don't have the option of moving it
> > earlier into the evening.



AndyHancock 10-06-2009 01:46 AM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
On Jun 9, 9:59*am, "Anders Tørneskog" >
wrote:
> "AndyHancock" > skrev i ...
>
> >I find that a glass of red per evening consistently causes early
> > wakefulness. *I wonder how people enjoy this routine without such
> > consequences (which becomes rather significant over the long term).
> > In particular, I wonder how this is approached by those people who
> > return home rather late, and hence don't have the option of moving it
> > earlier into the evening.

>
> Drink 2 glasses instead...


That is too much....

AndyHancock 10-06-2009 01:47 AM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
On Jun 9, 3:22*pm, Patok > wrote:
> Anders Tørneskog wrote:
> > "AndyHancock" > skrev i melding
> ....
> >> I find that a glass of red per evening consistently causes early
> >> wakefulness. *I wonder how people enjoy this routine without such
> >> consequences (which becomes rather significant over the long term).
> >> In particular, I wonder how this is approached by those people who
> >> return home rather late, and hence don't have the option of moving it
> >> earlier into the evening.

>
> > Drink 2 glasses instead...

>
> * * *If he sees problems from one glass, 2 will probably make it worse.
> But it's worth a try. I experience that problem (waking up early next
> morning), only after consuming a lot of wine (at least one bottle). Two
> or three glasses do not create any problems for me.


This is one glass (rather full-ish). Maybe 22.5% of a bottle.

Zeppo[_2_] 11-06-2009 03:26 PM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
AndyHancock wrote:
> On Jun 9, 9:59 am, "Anders Tørneskog" >
> wrote:
>> "AndyHancock" > skrev i
>> ...
>>
>>> I find that a glass of red per evening consistently causes early
>>> wakefulness. I wonder how people enjoy this routine without such
>>> consequences (which becomes rather significant over the long term).
>>> In particular, I wonder how this is approached by those people who
>>> return home rather late, and hence don't have the option of moving
>>> it earlier into the evening.

>>
>> Drink 2 glasses instead...

>
> That is too much....


I do experience it once in a while. It usually takes place after a late
supper where Ive had more than one glass of wine, and am still feeling the
effects by bedtime.

I mark it up to the fact that alchohol is a stimulant and let it go at that.
As I often have issues sleeping from a variety of causes, and it doesn't
happen that often, I tend to just ignore it.

Jon



cruciverbalist 11-06-2009 08:26 PM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:26:05 -0400, "Zeppo" > wrote:

>I mark it up to the fact that alchohol is a stimulant and let it go at that.
>Jon



Alcohol is a stimulant? Since when?

Jack

Bi!! 11-06-2009 08:42 PM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
On Jun 11, 3:26�pm, cruciverbalist >
wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:26:05 -0400, "Zeppo" > wrote:
> >I mark it up to the fact that alchohol is a stimulant and let it go at that.
> >Jon

>
> Alcohol is a stimulant? Since when?
>
> Jack


http://cme.medscape.com/viewarticle/497982

st.helier[_1_] 11-06-2009 10:06 PM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
"Bi!!" suggested this site.....

http://cme.medscape.com/viewarticle/497982


It requires subscription.

However, this site suggests that alcohol appears to act as both a
depressant and a stimulant (biphasic!).

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives...7505.Ns.r.html

Personally, I have never found that drinking wine, regardless of amount
consumed, has any effect on my sleep patterns.

--

st.helier


Bi!! 11-06-2009 11:20 PM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
On Jun 11, 5:06�pm, "st.helier" > wrote:
> "Bi!!" suggested this site.....
>
> http://cme.medscape.com/viewarticle/497982
>
> It requires subscription.
>
> However, �this site suggests that alcohol appears to act as both a
> depressant and a stimulant (biphasic!).
>
> http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives...7505.Ns.r.html
>
> Personally, I have never found that drinking wine, regardless of amount
> consumed, has any effect on my sleep patterns.
>
> --
>
> st.helier


I don't have a subscription I found it through google and I just now
clicked on the link and it took me to the article. I only cited it as
an example of a number of articles that implied that for a variety of
reasons alcohol can have an effect on sleep patterns especially in
late stage sleep but not everybody reacts the same way to it's
effects.

st.helier[_1_] 12-06-2009 12:09 AM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
"Bi!!" wrote ..............

> I don't have a subscription I found it through google and I just now
> clicked on the link and it took me to the article. I only cited it as
> an example of a number of articles that implied that for a variety of
> reasons alcohol can have an effect on sleep patterns especially in
> late stage sleep but not everybody reacts the same way to it's
> effects.


Hmmmm - I tried that link again - and was directed straight to a "Log In"
window. (I am not prepared to register!)

Maybe it is "country specific" - we NZers are regarded as still regarded as
"nuclear-free unfriendlies" by Washington! ;-)))))

--

st.helier



Bi!! 12-06-2009 01:27 AM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
On Jun 11, 7:09�pm, "st.helier" > wrote:
> "Bi!!" wrote �..............
>
> > I don't have a subscription I found it through google and I just now
> > clicked on the link and it took me to the article. �I only cited it as
> > an example of a number of articles that implied that for a variety of
> > reasons alcohol can have an effect on sleep patterns especially in
> > late stage sleep but not everybody reacts the same way to it's
> > effects.

>
> Hmmmm �- �I tried that link again - and was directed straight to a "Log In"
> window. (I am not prepared to register!)
>
> Maybe it is "country specific" - we NZers are regarded as still regarded as
> "nuclear-free unfriendlies" by Washington! ;-)))))
>
> --
>
> st.helier


Yes, you can be a subversive lot! All that beautiful landscape,
weather and people...something is certainly strange about that whole
scene.

Patok[_2_] 12-06-2009 02:08 AM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
Bi!! wrote:
> On Jun 11, 7:09?pm, "st.helier" > wrote:
>> "Bi!!" wrote ?..............
>>
>>> I don't have a subscription I found it through google and I just now
>>> clicked on the link and it took me to the article. ?I only cited it as
>>> an example of a number of articles that implied that for a variety of
>>> reasons alcohol can have an effect on sleep patterns especially in
>>> late stage sleep but not everybody reacts the same way to it's
>>> effects.

>> Hmmmm ?- ?I tried that link again - and was directed straight to a "Log In"
>> window. (I am not prepared to register!)
>>
>> Maybe it is "country specific" - we NZers are regarded as still regarded as
>> "nuclear-free unfriendlies" by Washington! ;-)))))

>
> Yes, you can be a subversive lot! All that beautiful landscape,
> weather and people...something is certainly strange about that whole
> scene.


And all these sheep! Just think of all the sheep! Maybe they're
preparing a muttony?

--
You'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone.

Mark Lipton[_1_] 12-06-2009 03:11 AM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
cruciverbalist wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:26:05 -0400, "Zeppo" > wrote:
>
>
>>I mark it up to the fact that alchohol is a stimulant and let it go at that.
>>Jon

>
>
>
> Alcohol is a stimulant? Since when?


Initially, alcohol does act as a stimulant, later becoming a CNS
depressant. That accounts for people's behavior, wherein alcohol
consumption leads to louder talk, more vigorous gestures and a reduction
in inhibition, then later to passing out.

Mark Lipton


--
alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net

Bi!! 12-06-2009 12:29 PM

Wine & sleep pattern disruption
 
On Jun 11, 10:11�pm, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> cruciverbalist wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:26:05 -0400, "Zeppo" > wrote:

>
> >>I mark it up to the fact that alchohol is a stimulant and let it go at that.
> >>Jon

>
> > Alcohol is a stimulant? Since when?

>
> Initially, alcohol does act as a stimulant, later becoming a CNS
> depressant. �That accounts for people's behavior, wherein alcohol
> consumption leads to louder talk, more vigorous gestures and a reduction
> in inhibition, then later to passing out.
>
> Mark Lipton
>
> --
> alt.food.wine FAQ: �http://winefaq.cwdjr.net


That's the way I act normally without alcohol.....I just get much
wittier with alcohol.


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