Had a bottle of Reisling (medium dry) and served it with turkey. Not
a big hit. Too sweet! Even my brother in law who would suck back
anything short of porch stripper paused after the first sip and went
with the other Reisling.

When and with what should I have used this medium dry wine.
After/before dinner? What foods could have handled the "sweetness"
just in case I try another one of these again.

TIA


Larry Stumpf,
S. Ontario,
Canada

Larry wrote:
> Had a bottle of Reisling (medium dry) and served it with turkey. Not
> a big hit. Too sweet! Even my brother in law who would suck back
> anything short of porch stripper paused after the first sip and went
> with the other Reisling.
>
> When and with what should I have used this medium dry wine.
> After/before dinner? What foods could have handled the "sweetness"
> just in case I try another one of these again.
>
> TIA
>
>
> Larry Stumpf,
> S. Ontario,
> Canada
Hey Larry,
An inexpensive Piesporter Riesling is always appropriate for many folks,
but a red is also good. This years good and cheap wine is the 2002 Rex
Goliath 47 pound Rooster Pinot Noir. I always serve an inexpensive
Riesling, a PN, and maybe a Zin (on Thanksgiving) with turkey. There
are exceptions of course. This year, we dug out a Vouvray for a guest
who wanted a white wine - but not "that" sweet. Every year around
Thanksgiving, I try to find a good (and fairly inexpensive) Pinot Noir
to serve with the turkey. It's getting more difficult.

Serving a variety of wines is a good thing.

Dick

>Had a bottle of Reisling (medium dry) and served it with turkey. Not
>a big hit. Too sweet!

What was the medium dry Riesling you served, Larry?

I just served a 2001 JJ Prum Riesling Kabinett (off-dry) with turkey, and
people liked it. Of course, we had candied sweet potatoes, and sweet jello
salad. These side dishes changed the complexion of the meal. We also had
people who prefer wines (and foods) a little sweeter. I also served a Lion
Valley Reserve Pinot Noir from OR. I found this a little young and woody, and
others did not like it.

Personal preferences have a lot to do with the preferred wine for turkey or
other things). I happen to think that turkey is one of the most versitile
foods, pairing reasonably well with a lot of wines. However, some would
disagree with this statement.

Tom Schellberg

On 27 Dec 2003 21:46:55 GMT, (Xyzsch) wrote:

>>Had a bottle of Reisling (medium dry) and served it with turkey. Not
>>a big hit. Too sweet!
>
>What was the medium dry Riesling you served, Larry?
>
It was an Ontario wine-Henry of Pelham. Think As Dick suggested, I
should have gone with the lighter reds too. Will try again soon.

Larry Stumpf,
S. Ontario,
Canada

"Larry" > wrote in message
...
> Had a bottle of Riesling (medium dry) and served it with turkey. Not
> a big hit. Too sweet! Even my brother in law who would suck back
> anything short of porch stripper paused after the first sip and went
> with the other Riesling.
>
> When and with what should I have used this medium dry wine.
> After/before dinner?

After dinner, in the hot tub with your significant other, after all the
guests have gone home. ;^)

Tom S

>
>After dinner, in the hot tub with your significant other, after all the
>guests have gone home. ;^)
>
>Tom S


;-}

Larry Stumpf,
S. Ontario,
Canada

Tom S wrote:
> "Larry" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Had a bottle of Riesling (medium dry) and served it with turkey. Not
>>a big hit. Too sweet! Even my brother in law who would suck back
>>anything short of porch stripper paused after the first sip and went
>>with the other Riesling.
>>
>>When and with what should I have used this medium dry wine.
>>After/before dinner?
>
>
> After dinner, in the hot tub with your significant other, after all the
> guests have gone home. ;^)
>
> Tom S
Okeedohkee, wines for the hot tub - anyone?

Don't have a hot tub, but I'm curious - just in case.
Dick

>

"Dick R." > wrote:

> Okeedohkee, wines for the hot tub - anyone?

Champagne (the real thing, of course).

M.

"Dick R." > wrote in message
...
> Okeedohkee, wines for the hot tub - anyone?
>
> Don't have a hot tub, but I'm curious - just in case.

How about the wines of "Cleavage Creek"?

No, I didn't make that up - but I wish I had! They're doing a land-office
business. I just wonder how they got the label past the Feds.
http://www.cleavagecreek.com

Tom S

"Tom S" > wrote in
m:

>
> How about the wines of "Cleavage Creek"?
>
> No, I didn't make that up - but I wish I had! They're doing a
> land-office business. I just wonder how they got the label past the
> Feds. http://www.cleavagecreek.com
>
> Tom S
>
>
Sorry, but if I was in a hot tub with a gentleman(no, strike that),
goober, and he pulled out a bottle of something named "Cleavage Creek",
regardless of what it tasted like or how the label looked (and I wasn't
tempted to look) he could just share the hot tub with his bottle.

Nyah!

d.
(one of the few gals here, apparently...;D)
PS, I'm with M. Pronay, Champagne for me...

Tom S wrote:

> How about the wines of "Cleavage Creek"?
>
> No, I didn't make that up - but I wish I had! They're doing a land-office
> business. I just wonder how they got the label past the Feds.

Oh, they're donating to breast cancer research...

Dana

enoavidh > wrote:

> (one of the few gals here, apparently...;D)
> PS, I'm with M. Pronay, Champagne for me...

Thank you very much!

M.

Michael Pronay > wrote in
:

> enoavidh > wrote:
>
>> (one of the few gals here, apparently...;D)
>> PS, I'm with M. Pronay, Champagne for me...
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> M.
>



I know, he's married, sigh.
d.
"If it weren't for Herr Pronay, I would never have tasted GV! Yum!!"

enoavidh > wrote:

> "If it weren't for Herr Pronay, I would never have tasted GV!
> Yum!!"

Thank you even morer ... ;-)

M.

enoavidh > wrote:

>Michael Pronay > wrote in
:
>
>> enoavidh > wrote:
>>
>>> (one of the few gals here, apparently...;D)
>>> PS, I'm with M. Pronay, Champagne for me...
>>
>> Thank you very much!
>>
>> M.
>>
>
>
>
>"If it weren't for Herr Pronay, I would never have tasted GV! Yum!!"

There are several people in here, me being one, that have tried and
loved GV after hearing of its virtues from Michael. GV has gone from a
wine I had never heard of, to one that that I always look for when I'm
in a wine store.

--
Cliff

Cliff Brown > wrote on 29 Dec 2003:

> enoavidh > wrote:
>
>>Michael Pronay > wrote in
:
>>
>>> enoavidh > wrote:
>>>
>>>> (one of the few gals here, apparently...;D)
>>>> PS, I'm with M. Pronay, Champagne for me...
>>>
>>> Thank you very much!
>>"If it weren't for Herr Pronay, I would never have tasted GV!
>>Yum!!"
>
> There are several people in here, me being one, that have tried
> and loved GV after hearing of its virtues from Michael. GV has
> gone from a wine I had never heard of, to one that that I always
> look for when I'm in a wine store.

Well, it took me a couple of minutes to figure out what GV was. I
finally did a Google groups search for "GV Pronay" and found an old
post that identified it as Grüner Veltliner.

I'll look for a bottle to try. Any recommendations in the less than
$30 range?

I have been lurking in the group for several months and have enjoyed
the discussions and friendliness of the posts.

Bill Hogsett
Shaker Heights, Ohio, USA

Which GVs are preferred?

"Cliff Brown" > wrote in message
...
> enoavidh > wrote:
>
> >Michael Pronay > wrote in
> :
> >
> >> enoavidh > wrote:
> >>
> >>> (one of the few gals here, apparently...;D)
> >>> PS, I'm with M. Pronay, Champagne for me...
> >>
> >> Thank you very much!
> >>
> >> M.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >"If it weren't for Herr Pronay, I would never have tasted GV! Yum!!"
>
> There are several people in here, me being one, that have tried and
> loved GV after hearing of its virtues from Michael. GV has gone from a
> wine I had never heard of, to one that that I always look for when I'm
> in a wine store.
>
> --
> Cliff

In article 32>, Bill Hogsett
> writes:

> Grüner Veltliner.
>
>I'll look for a bottle to try. Any recommendations in the less than
>$30 range?

Well, good producers include Knoll, Hiedler, Bründlmayer, FX Pichler, Prager,
and Hirsch (though might be tough to find a FX Pichler for under $30US). Where
are you? Most US places don't have a huge selection of Austrian wines. If we
knew where you were (or where you could ship from), might be easier to make
specific suggestions. Welcome to posting here!
Dale

Dale Williams
Drop "damnspam" to reply

"dick" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> Which GVs are preferred?
>
Try a google search - Michael has given advice quite a few times!
Remember to look for the word "Smaragd" on the label, the highest level of
ripeness and also make sure the ABV is at least 13%.
Anders

amnspam (Dale Williams) wrote on 29 Dec 2003:

> In article 32>,
> Bill Hogsett
> writes:
>
>> Grüner Veltliner.
>>
>>I'll look for a bottle to try. Any recommendations in the less
>>than $30 range?
>
> Well, good producers include Knoll, Hiedler, Bründlmayer, FX
> Pichler, Prager, and Hirsch (though might be tough to find a FX
> Pichler for under $30US). Where are you? Most US places don't have
> a huge selection of Austrian wines. If we knew where you were (or
> where you could ship from), might be easier to make specific
> suggestions. Welcome to posting here! Dale

Thanks Dale, I am in Shaker Heights, Ohio which is a suburb of
Cleveland.

Another poster suggested I do a Google search for recommendations and
I'll do that, but if you can point me to a source that ships that
would be nice.

Bill Hogsett

Bill Hogsett > wrote in
. 97.132:

>
> Well, it took me a couple of minutes to figure out what GV was. I
> finally did a Google groups search for "GV Pronay" and found an old
> post that identified it as Grüner Veltliner.
>
> I'll look for a bottle to try. Any recommendations in the less than
> $30 range?
>
> I have been lurking in the group for several months and have enjoyed
> the discussions and friendliness of the posts.
>
> Bill Hogsett
> Shaker Heights, Ohio, USA
>

Oh, ha, it was because I couldn't remember how to spell it! Nor exactly
where the umlaut(s) were! And was lazy to walk over and look for my
notes!
I haven't yet had any really good ($$) ones, I think I've had a Nigl, and
one that began with a W...(lazy again)
Don't yell at me guys, but GV is what I always thought Riesling should
taste like...(cowering in the corner, protecting head!)

d.
"Still haven't had my Riesling epiphany..."

"dick" > wrote:

>Which GVs are preferred?
>
>"Cliff Brown" > wrote in message
.. .
>> enoavidh > wrote:
>>
>> >Michael Pronay > wrote in
>> :
>> >
>> >> enoavidh > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> (one of the few gals here, apparently...;D)
>> >>> PS, I'm with M. Pronay, Champagne for me...
>> >>
>> >> Thank you very much!
>> >>
>> >> M.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"If it weren't for Herr Pronay, I would never have tasted GV! Yum!!"
>>
>> There are several people in here, me being one, that have tried and
>> loved GV after hearing of its virtues from Michael. GV has gone from a
>> wine I had never heard of, to one that that I always look for when I'm
>> in a wine store.
>>

There aren't many available in my area, but then, I haven't had a bad
one yet. I usually grab one when I see a new one.

So far I've liked the following producers:
Josef Jamek
Johann Topf
Domaine Wachau
Loimer Langenlois (Avoid the rather generic Lois)
Wieninger

I think there is so little brought in the country and each store sells
so little that the ones found are usually pretty good. No one seems to
want to take up space on bad GVs. At least that's the case around here.

Try one or two, you'll be hooked. The Austrian GVs are right behind the
German Rieslings for me as my favorite white.

--

Cliff

amnspam (Dale Williams) wrote:

>In article 32>, Bill Hogsett
> writes:
>
>> Grüner Veltliner.
>>
>>I'll look for a bottle to try. Any recommendations in the less than
>>$30 range?
>
>Well, good producers include Knoll, Hiedler, Bründlmayer, FX Pichler, Prager,
>and Hirsch (though might be tough to find a FX Pichler for under $30US). Where
>are you? Most US places don't have a huge selection of Austrian wines. If we
>knew where you were (or where you could ship from), might be easier to make
>specific suggestions. Welcome to posting here!
>Dale
>

You can see another response from me in this thread that lists a few
producers that are available around me in Wisconsin that are mainly
under US$30.

--

Cliff

I have not had a bad GV yet either. A few sommeliers in town are promoting
this obscure gem of a wine...at long last.

mt


"Cliff Brown" > wrote in message
...
> "dick" > wrote:
>
> >Which GVs are preferred?
> >
> >"Cliff Brown" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> enoavidh > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Michael Pronay > wrote in
> >> :
> >> >
> >> >> enoavidh > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> (one of the few gals here, apparently...;D)
> >> >>> PS, I'm with M. Pronay, Champagne for me...
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you very much!
> >> >>
> >> >> M.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"If it weren't for Herr Pronay, I would never have tasted GV! Yum!!"
> >>
> >> There are several people in here, me being one, that have tried and
> >> loved GV after hearing of its virtues from Michael. GV has gone from a
> >> wine I had never heard of, to one that that I always look for when I'm
> >> in a wine store.
> >>
>
> There aren't many available in my area, but then, I haven't had a bad
> one yet. I usually grab one when I see a new one.
>
> So far I've liked the following producers:
> Josef Jamek
> Johann Topf
> Domaine Wachau
> Loimer Langenlois (Avoid the rather generic Lois)
> Wieninger
>
> I think there is so little brought in the country and each store sells
> so little that the ones found are usually pretty good. No one seems to
> want to take up space on bad GVs. At least that's the case around here.
>
> Try one or two, you'll be hooked. The Austrian GVs are right behind the
> German Rieslings for me as my favorite white.
>
> --
>
> Cliff

none of these are available in Charlotte Wine Stores I contacted.

Oh well.


"Cliff Brown" > wrote in message
...
> "dick" > wrote:
>
> >Which GVs are preferred?
> >
> >"Cliff Brown" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> enoavidh > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Michael Pronay > wrote in
> >> :
> >> >
> >> >> enoavidh > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> (one of the few gals here, apparently...;D)
> >> >>> PS, I'm with M. Pronay, Champagne for me...
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you very much!
> >> >>
> >> >> M.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"If it weren't for Herr Pronay, I would never have tasted GV! Yum!!"
> >>
> >> There are several people in here, me being one, that have tried and
> >> loved GV after hearing of its virtues from Michael. GV has gone from a
> >> wine I had never heard of, to one that that I always look for when I'm
> >> in a wine store.
> >>
>
> There aren't many available in my area, but then, I haven't had a bad
> one yet. I usually grab one when I see a new one.
>
> So far I've liked the following producers:
> Josef Jamek
> Johann Topf
> Domaine Wachau
> Loimer Langenlois (Avoid the rather generic Lois)
> Wieninger
>
> I think there is so little brought in the country and each store sells
> so little that the ones found are usually pretty good. No one seems to
> want to take up space on bad GVs. At least that's the case around here.
>
> Try one or two, you'll be hooked. The Austrian GVs are right behind the
> German Rieslings for me as my favorite white.
>
> --
>
> Cliff

In article .net>, "dick"
> writes:

>none of these are available in Charlotte Wine Stores I contacted.

Do you ever order from Carolina Wine Company? They usually have some good
Austrians.
Dale

Dale Williams
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never have before. but I take son back to chapel hill in early January
perhaps I shall stop by.

I will check for web site. thanks.

dick

"Dale Williams" > wrote in message
...
> In article .net>, "dick"
> > writes:
>
> >none of these are available in Charlotte Wine Stores I contacted.
>
> Do you ever order from Carolina Wine Company? They usually have some good
> Austrians.
> Dale
>
> Dale Williams
> Drop "damnspam" to reply

I called them and you were correct. They have plenty of this wine there.
When returning son to college next week I will check out.

Hope all is well there and thank you for suggestion.

They also claim to have decent burgs...thanks.

"Dale Williams" > wrote in message
...
> In article .net>, "dick"
> > writes:
>
> >none of these are available in Charlotte Wine Stores I contacted.
>
> Do you ever order from Carolina Wine Company? They usually have some good
> Austrians.
> Dale
>
> Dale Williams
> Drop "damnspam" to reply