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Bill 14-07-2004 10:20 PM

Naming a Zinfandel
 

Alexander Valley Vineyards came up with a great name
years ago that helped sell their wine, Sin Zin. It seems
to me that no where in the wine industry is this type of
marketing more prevalent than in the Zinfandel market.
Armida Vineyards named one of theirs Pozin. And then
of course most of us Zin drinkers have have many bottles
of The Cardinal Zin. Today I encountered another from
Michael David Vineyard called 7 Deadly Zins. And Alexander
Valley Vineyards has another one named Redemption Zin.
Are there any more of these great names out there that I
have not found?
Bill


Kieran Dyke 15-07-2004 12:23 AM

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"Bill" > wrote in message
...
>
> Alexander Valley Vineyards came up with a great name
> years ago that helped sell their wine, Sin Zin. It seems
> to me that no where in the wine industry is this type of
> marketing more prevalent than in the Zinfandel market.
> Armida Vineyards named one of theirs Pozin. And then
> of course most of us Zin drinkers have have many bottles
> of The Cardinal Zin. Today I encountered another from
> Michael David Vineyard called 7 Deadly Zins. And Alexander
> Valley Vineyards has another one named Redemption Zin.
> Are there any more of these great names out there that I
> have not found?
> Bill
>


Surely "Original Zin" has been done.

Kieran



Bill 15-07-2004 01:20 AM

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Kieran Dyke wrote:

>> Alexander Valley Vineyards came up with a great name
>>years ago that helped sell their wine, Sin Zin. It seems
>>to me that no where in the wine industry is this type of
>>marketing more prevalent than in the Zinfandel market.
>> Armida Vineyards named one of theirs Pozin. And then
>>of course most of us Zin drinkers have have many bottles
>>of The Cardinal Zin. Today I encountered another from
>>Michael David Vineyard called 7 Deadly Zins. And Alexander
>>Valley Vineyards has another one named Redemption Zin.
>>Are there any more of these great names out there that I
>>have not found?

>
> Surely "Original Zin" has been done.


Only Chateau Potelle with have the hubris to do that.

So far they have use only VGS which they claim stands for
Very Good Shit.


st.helier 15-07-2004 02:58 AM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
What about "Rin Tin Zin" - a real dog of a wine !!!

st.h



st.helier 15-07-2004 02:58 AM

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What about "Rin Tin Zin" - a real dog of a wine !!!

st.h



Oliver White 15-07-2004 04:04 AM

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st.helier wrote:

> What about "Rin Tin Zin" - a real dog of a wine !!!
>
> st.h
>
>


My favorite was "A Critique of Pure Riesling". :-D

Tom S 15-07-2004 05:58 AM

Naming a Zinfandel
 

"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> Are there any more of these great names out there that I
> have not found?


I know a winemaker with the handle "Zinful", and another one who goes by
"Zinthia".

Tom S



Bill 15-07-2004 02:02 PM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
Tom S wrote:
> "Bill" > wrote in message
> ...
>>Are there any more of these great names out there that I
>>have not found?

>
> I know a winemaker with the handle "Zinful", and another one who goes by
> "Zinthia".


And a Zin drinker whose uses Zinfanatic


Tom S 15-07-2004 03:40 PM

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> > "Bill" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>Are there any more of these great names out there that I
> >>have not found?


I just dreamed one up: Zinphonic

Tom S



Tom S 15-07-2004 03:40 PM

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> > "Bill" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>Are there any more of these great names out there that I
> >>have not found?


I just dreamed one up: Zinphonic

Tom S



Gr8pluvr 15-07-2004 09:57 PM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
<< I just dreamed one up: Zinphonic >>

I am wondering why no one did a 2000 vintage Zinfandel called "Two ThouZin"




Gr8pluvr 15-07-2004 09:57 PM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
<< I just dreamed one up: Zinphonic >>

I am wondering why no one did a 2000 vintage Zinfandel called "Two ThouZin"




enoavidh 15-07-2004 10:52 PM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
(Gr8pluvr) wrote in
:

> << I just dreamed one up: Zinphonic >>
>
> I am wondering why no one did a 2000 vintage Zinfandel called "Two
> ThouZin"
>
>


If we make one up, and someone uses it, can we get royalties? Or a couple
of cases?

"Zinthesis"

d;D

enoavidh 15-07-2004 10:52 PM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
(Gr8pluvr) wrote in
:

> << I just dreamed one up: Zinphonic >>
>
> I am wondering why no one did a 2000 vintage Zinfandel called "Two
> ThouZin"
>
>


If we make one up, and someone uses it, can we get royalties? Or a couple
of cases?

"Zinthesis"

d;D

Mike Tommasi 15-07-2004 11:22 PM

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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:20:46 GMT, Bill >
wrote:

>
> Alexander Valley Vineyards came up with a great name
>years ago that helped sell their wine, Sin Zin. It seems
>to me that no where in the wine industry is this type of
>marketing more prevalent than in the Zinfandel market.
> Armida Vineyards named one of theirs Pozin. And then
>of course most of us Zin drinkers have have many bottles
>of The Cardinal Zin. Today I encountered another from
>Michael David Vineyard called 7 Deadly Zins. And Alexander
>Valley Vineyards has another one named Redemption Zin.
>Are there any more of these great names out there that I
>have not found?


Son of Crnjelak
Z'inuf
Zinequanon
Prim' and proper
Z'interesting
Z'infinitely better
Pree-mee-teevo
Plavac soit qui Mali pense
Au toc tone
Z'indigenous


Sorry

Mike
(writing from remote zin-land)

Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

Mike Tommasi 15-07-2004 11:22 PM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:20:46 GMT, Bill >
wrote:

>
> Alexander Valley Vineyards came up with a great name
>years ago that helped sell their wine, Sin Zin. It seems
>to me that no where in the wine industry is this type of
>marketing more prevalent than in the Zinfandel market.
> Armida Vineyards named one of theirs Pozin. And then
>of course most of us Zin drinkers have have many bottles
>of The Cardinal Zin. Today I encountered another from
>Michael David Vineyard called 7 Deadly Zins. And Alexander
>Valley Vineyards has another one named Redemption Zin.
>Are there any more of these great names out there that I
>have not found?


Son of Crnjelak
Z'inuf
Zinequanon
Prim' and proper
Z'interesting
Z'infinitely better
Pree-mee-teevo
Plavac soit qui Mali pense
Au toc tone
Z'indigenous


Sorry

Mike
(writing from remote zin-land)

Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

Cwdjrx _ 15-07-2004 11:42 PM

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I can think of a French example of a very interesting name. De Sade
Champagne apparently was made by a relative of the de Sade that gave the
name to sadism. Several years ago they sold their wine with a label with
whips and such on it to take advantage of the infamous name. I believe
this label was banned in the US.

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Cwdjrx _ 15-07-2004 11:42 PM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
I can think of a French example of a very interesting name. De Sade
Champagne apparently was made by a relative of the de Sade that gave the
name to sadism. Several years ago they sold their wine with a label with
whips and such on it to take advantage of the infamous name. I believe
this label was banned in the US.

My mailbox is always full to avoid spam. To contact me, erase
from my email address. Then add . I do not
check this box every day, so post if you need a quick response.


Ken Blake 16-07-2004 12:13 AM

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In ,
Mike Tommasi > typed:

> Son of Crnjelak
> Z'inuf
> Zinequanon
> Prim' and proper
> Z'interesting
> Z'infinitely better
> Pree-mee-teevo
> Plavac soit qui Mali pense
> Au toc tone
> Z'indigenous



Are there zingle vineyard bottlings of any of these?

--
Ken Blake
Please reply to the newsgroup



Walter L. Preuninger II 16-07-2004 01:31 AM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
Hello All, Again. I dont get around the computer to much anymore due to
work, and family, and building a house with... guess what... A wine cellar!
It will be very modest (6'5" D X 5'1" W X 8' H) and I still am trying to
decide between WhisperKool 3000 and Breezeaire WKE-3000. The unit will
exhaust into the garage (insulated with some ducted a/c, so I am interested
in opinions). I live in Northeast Texas, and it have finally broken the 100
degree mark (after a month of rain that held up the pouring of the slab.)

But, back to the subject, Alison and I were on a 7 day cruise for our 2nd
year anniversary, and found a few paintings that were wine inspired. So we
bought one, titled Seven Deadly Zins. Here is a picture
http://www.artcentergallery.com/gall...deadlyzins.jpg
There are better pictures on www.michaelgodard.net and more wine/drinking
related art.

Well, on a trip back from Austin, Texas we stopped at Fat Dog's Liquors and
found a bottle of Seven Deadly Zins. We bought a case of the 2001, but have
not had any yet..

There is also a painting (and a wine) with the name Seven Heavenly Chards.
"Bill" > wrote in message
...
>
> Alexander Valley Vineyards came up with a great name
> years ago that helped sell their wine, Sin Zin. It seems
> to me that no where in the wine industry is this type of
> marketing more prevalent than in the Zinfandel market.
> Armida Vineyards named one of theirs Pozin. And then
> of course most of us Zin drinkers have have many bottles
> of The Cardinal Zin. Today I encountered another from
> Michael David Vineyard called 7 Deadly Zins. And Alexander
> Valley Vineyards has another one named Redemption Zin.
> Are there any more of these great names out there that I
> have not found?
> Bill
>




Walter L. Preuninger II 16-07-2004 01:31 AM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
Hello All, Again. I dont get around the computer to much anymore due to
work, and family, and building a house with... guess what... A wine cellar!
It will be very modest (6'5" D X 5'1" W X 8' H) and I still am trying to
decide between WhisperKool 3000 and Breezeaire WKE-3000. The unit will
exhaust into the garage (insulated with some ducted a/c, so I am interested
in opinions). I live in Northeast Texas, and it have finally broken the 100
degree mark (after a month of rain that held up the pouring of the slab.)

But, back to the subject, Alison and I were on a 7 day cruise for our 2nd
year anniversary, and found a few paintings that were wine inspired. So we
bought one, titled Seven Deadly Zins. Here is a picture
http://www.artcentergallery.com/gall...deadlyzins.jpg
There are better pictures on www.michaelgodard.net and more wine/drinking
related art.

Well, on a trip back from Austin, Texas we stopped at Fat Dog's Liquors and
found a bottle of Seven Deadly Zins. We bought a case of the 2001, but have
not had any yet..

There is also a painting (and a wine) with the name Seven Heavenly Chards.
"Bill" > wrote in message
...
>
> Alexander Valley Vineyards came up with a great name
> years ago that helped sell their wine, Sin Zin. It seems
> to me that no where in the wine industry is this type of
> marketing more prevalent than in the Zinfandel market.
> Armida Vineyards named one of theirs Pozin. And then
> of course most of us Zin drinkers have have many bottles
> of The Cardinal Zin. Today I encountered another from
> Michael David Vineyard called 7 Deadly Zins. And Alexander
> Valley Vineyards has another one named Redemption Zin.
> Are there any more of these great names out there that I
> have not found?
> Bill
>




Bill 16-07-2004 02:35 PM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
Walter L. Preuninger II wrote:
> So we bought one, titled Seven Deadly Zins. Here is a picture
> http://www.artcentergallery.com/gall...deadlyzins.jpg
> There are better pictures on www.michaelgodard.net and more wine/drinking
> related art.
> Well, on a trip back from Austin, Texas we stopped at Fat Dog's Liquors and
> found a bottle of Seven Deadly Zins. We bought a case of the 2001, but have
> not had any yet..
> There is also a painting (and a wine) with the name Seven Heavenly Chards.



You got the best painting of the group and the best wine. The Zin is
very good but the Chardonnay is hardly worth the tasting effort.


Bill 16-07-2004 02:35 PM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
Walter L. Preuninger II wrote:
> So we bought one, titled Seven Deadly Zins. Here is a picture
> http://www.artcentergallery.com/gall...deadlyzins.jpg
> There are better pictures on www.michaelgodard.net and more wine/drinking
> related art.
> Well, on a trip back from Austin, Texas we stopped at Fat Dog's Liquors and
> found a bottle of Seven Deadly Zins. We bought a case of the 2001, but have
> not had any yet..
> There is also a painting (and a wine) with the name Seven Heavenly Chards.



You got the best painting of the group and the best wine. The Zin is
very good but the Chardonnay is hardly worth the tasting effort.


Walter L. Preuninger II 16-07-2004 08:34 PM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> Walter L. Preuninger II wrote:
> > So we bought one, titled Seven Deadly Zins. Here is a picture
> >

http://www.artcentergallery.com/gall...deadlyzins.jpg
> > There are better pictures on www.michaelgodard.net and more

wine/drinking
> > related art.
> > Well, on a trip back from Austin, Texas we stopped at Fat Dog's Liquors

and
> > found a bottle of Seven Deadly Zins. We bought a case of the 2001, but

have
> > not had any yet..
> > There is also a painting (and a wine) with the name Seven Heavenly

Chards.
>
>
> You got the best painting of the group and the best wine. The Zin is
> very good but the Chardonnay is hardly worth the tasting effort.
>

We are waiting to open the wine when the painting gets here. We have a
perfect place for the painting, just no walls yet.



Cwdjrx _ 17-07-2004 12:51 AM

Naming a Zinfandel
 

______________________________________

http://www.stratsplace.com/rogov/trivial_endings.html

______________________________________

Item 5 on the above page explains why the original label on de Sade
Champagne was banned in the US. This Champagne now has a much less
suggestive label that can easily be found on Google, but I did not find
the original label. It shows a very young nude girl being whipped. Other
information I found indicates that the de Sade family has owned property
in Champage. However the de Sade Champagne is now made by a firm that
does not include members of the de Sade family. However the firm
obtained approval of the de Sade family for selling Champagne under that
label.

My mailbox is always full to avoid spam. To contact me, erase
from my email address. Then add . I do not
check this box every day, so post if you need a quick response.


Cwdjrx _ 17-07-2004 12:51 AM

Naming a Zinfandel
 

______________________________________

http://www.stratsplace.com/rogov/trivial_endings.html

______________________________________

Item 5 on the above page explains why the original label on de Sade
Champagne was banned in the US. This Champagne now has a much less
suggestive label that can easily be found on Google, but I did not find
the original label. It shows a very young nude girl being whipped. Other
information I found indicates that the de Sade family has owned property
in Champage. However the de Sade Champagne is now made by a firm that
does not include members of the de Sade family. However the firm
obtained approval of the de Sade family for selling Champagne under that
label.

My mailbox is always full to avoid spam. To contact me, erase
from my email address. Then add . I do not
check this box every day, so post if you need a quick response.


Bill 17-07-2004 03:27 AM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
Cwdjrx _ wrote:
> Item 5 on the above page explains why the original label on de Sade
> Champagne was banned in the US. This Champagne now has a much less
> suggestive label that can easily be found on Google, but I did not find
> the original label. It shows a very young nude girl being whipped. Other
> information I found indicates that the de Sade family has owned property
> in Champage. However the de Sade Champagne is now made by a firm that
> does not include members of the de Sade family. However the firm
> obtained approval of the de Sade family for selling Champagne under that
> label.


It is no surprise that the ATF would ban this wine. I think all the members
of their organization that review wine labels are past movie censors. Several
California wineries have had major go arounds with them over female bodies.
I believe the also rejected one of the Mouton art labels and Mouton produced
a US only label. And then there is Randall Grahm of Bonny Doon who is always
testing the limits of what he can get them to accept on a label.
( I urge anyone not familiar with Grahm to visit the Bonny Doon web site
and enjoy his craziness )


Bill 17-07-2004 03:27 AM

Naming a Zinfandel
 
Cwdjrx _ wrote:
> Item 5 on the above page explains why the original label on de Sade
> Champagne was banned in the US. This Champagne now has a much less
> suggestive label that can easily be found on Google, but I did not find
> the original label. It shows a very young nude girl being whipped. Other
> information I found indicates that the de Sade family has owned property
> in Champage. However the de Sade Champagne is now made by a firm that
> does not include members of the de Sade family. However the firm
> obtained approval of the de Sade family for selling Champagne under that
> label.


It is no surprise that the ATF would ban this wine. I think all the members
of their organization that review wine labels are past movie censors. Several
California wineries have had major go arounds with them over female bodies.
I believe the also rejected one of the Mouton art labels and Mouton produced
a US only label. And then there is Randall Grahm of Bonny Doon who is always
testing the limits of what he can get them to accept on a label.
( I urge anyone not familiar with Grahm to visit the Bonny Doon web site
and enjoy his craziness )



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