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Hi Folks,
Be sure and check out http://www.wineselleronline.com - Its a new wine site based in Ireland with over 21 years experience in the business. And establish list of customers shows these guys mean business.Wines at wholesale prices, often the same as what off licenses buy them for! These guys also supply Coffe machines for your business backed up by some great aftersales service. You can download the catalogue of wines from the site at any time or call them with a query. So go on and check it out! www.wineselleronline.com |
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On 4 Aug 2004 03:53:56 -0700, (WineSellerTeam) wrote:
>Hi Folks, > >Be sure and check out http://www.wineselleronline.com - Its a new wine >site based in Ireland with over 21 years experience in the business. >And establish list of customers shows these guys mean business.Wines >at wholesale prices, often the same as what off licenses buy them for! > >These guys also supply Coffe machines for your business backed up by >some great aftersales service. You can download the catalogue of wines >from the site at any time or call them with a query. > >So go on and check it out! > >www.wineselleronline.com You work for them. So don't pretend you are some objective client. This is not what this forum is intended for. And 99% of your audience is not even in Ireland, incredible as that may seem. Mike Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail |
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I think that was intended alright Mike
Lighten up Mike Tommasi > wrote in message >. .. > On 4 Aug 2004 03:53:56 -0700, (WineSellerTeam) wrote: > > >Hi Folks, > > > >Be sure and check out http://www.wineselleronline.com - Its a new wine > >site based in Ireland with over 21 years experience in the business. > >And establish list of customers shows these guys mean business.Wines > >at wholesale prices, often the same as what off licenses buy them for! > > > >These guys also supply Coffe machines for your business backed up by > >some great aftersales service. You can download the catalogue of wines > >from the site at any time or call them with a query. > > > >So go on and check it out! > > > >www.wineselleronline.com > > You work for them. So don't pretend you are some objective client. > > This is not what this forum is intended for. And 99% of your audience > is not even in Ireland, incredible as that may seem. > > Mike > > Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France > email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail |
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> > On 4 Aug 2004 03:53:56 -0700, (WineSellerTeam) wrote:
> > > > >Hi Folks, > > > > > >Be sure and check out http://www.wineselleronline.com - Its a new wine > > >site based in Ireland with over 21 years experience in the business. > > >And establish list of customers shows these guys mean business.Wines > > >at wholesale prices, often the same as what off licenses buy them for! > > > > > >These guys also supply Coffe machines for your business backed up by > > >some great aftersales service. You can download the catalogue of wines > > >from the site at any time or call them with a query. > > > > > >So go on and check it out! > > > > > >www.wineselleronline.com Mike Tommasi > wrote in message > > > > You work for them. So don't pretend you are some objective client. > > > > This is not what this forum is intended for. And 99% of your audience > > is not even in Ireland, incredible as that may seem. > > > > Mike > > > > Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France > > email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail (WineSellerTeam) wrote in message . com>... > I think that was intended alright Mike > > Lighten up > Rather than waste alt.food.wine space expressing displeasure about 'Shilling' for one's own commercial site, I sent a direct e-mail explaining that such postings were out of place and could easily be viewed as unethical. Daragh MacLoughlin was 'kind enough' to respond and explain that: 1) "i never tried to hide any affiliation" 2) "Ever hear of a language barrier Dan? English isnt my first language so i cannot always convey what i need to" 3) "well to be honest i didnt actually check to see the general flow of conversation or check the rules and in fact i think that was the first ever post ive made to alt groups" So, thanks Daragh! Since I'm not in Ireland, I don't have to decide whether to do business with this company. (It would have been an easy decision, anyway). But I do often add links to merchants in other countries on my web site to help direct residents toward worthwhile merchants. I don't think I'll be putting up any positive links for this guy. Dan |
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> > On 4 Aug 2004 03:53:56 -0700, (WineSellerTeam) wrote:
> > > > >Hi Folks, > > > > > >Be sure and check out http://www.wineselleronline.com - Its a new wine > > >site based in Ireland with over 21 years experience in the business. > > >And establish list of customers shows these guys mean business.Wines > > >at wholesale prices, often the same as what off licenses buy them for! > > > > > >These guys also supply Coffe machines for your business backed up by > > >some great aftersales service. You can download the catalogue of wines > > >from the site at any time or call them with a query. > > > > > >So go on and check it out! > > > > > >www.wineselleronline.com Mike Tommasi > wrote in message > > > > You work for them. So don't pretend you are some objective client. > > > > This is not what this forum is intended for. And 99% of your audience > > is not even in Ireland, incredible as that may seem. > > > > Mike > > > > Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France > > email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail (WineSellerTeam) wrote in message . com>... > I think that was intended alright Mike > > Lighten up > Rather than waste alt.food.wine space expressing displeasure about 'Shilling' for one's own commercial site, I sent a direct e-mail explaining that such postings were out of place and could easily be viewed as unethical. Daragh MacLoughlin was 'kind enough' to respond and explain that: 1) "i never tried to hide any affiliation" 2) "Ever hear of a language barrier Dan? English isnt my first language so i cannot always convey what i need to" 3) "well to be honest i didnt actually check to see the general flow of conversation or check the rules and in fact i think that was the first ever post ive made to alt groups" So, thanks Daragh! Since I'm not in Ireland, I don't have to decide whether to do business with this company. (It would have been an easy decision, anyway). But I do often add links to merchants in other countries on my web site to help direct residents toward worthwhile merchants. I don't think I'll be putting up any positive links for this guy. Dan |
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![]() "Dan Miller" > wrote in message om... > > > On 4 Aug 2004 03:53:56 -0700, (WineSellerTeam) wrote: > > > > > > >Hi Folks, > > > > > > > >Be sure and check out http://www.wineselleronline.com - Its a new wine > > > >site based in Ireland with over 21 years experience in the business. > > > >And establish list of customers shows these guys mean business.Wines > > > >at wholesale prices, often the same as what off licenses buy them for! > > > > > > > >These guys also supply Coffe machines for your business backed up by > > > >some great aftersales service. You can download the catalogue of wines > > > >from the site at any time or call them with a query. > > > > > > > >So go on and check it out! > > > > > > > >www.wineselleronline.com > > Mike Tommasi > wrote in message > > > > > > You work for them. So don't pretend you are some objective client. > > > > > > This is not what this forum is intended for. And 99% of your audience > > > is not even in Ireland, incredible as that may seem. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France > > > email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail > > (WineSellerTeam) wrote in message . com>... > > I think that was intended alright Mike > > > > Lighten up > > > > Rather than waste alt.food.wine space expressing displeasure about > 'Shilling' for one's own commercial site, I sent a direct e-mail > explaining that such postings were out of place and could easily be > viewed as unethical. > > Daragh MacLoughlin was 'kind enough' to respond and explain that: > > 1) "i never tried to hide any affiliation" > 2) "Ever hear of a language barrier Dan? English isnt my first > language so i cannot always convey what i need to" > 3) "well to be honest i didnt actually check to see the general flow > of conversation or check the rules and in fact i think that was the > first ever post ive made to alt groups" > > So, thanks Daragh! Since I'm not in Ireland, I don't have to decide > whether to do business with this company. (It would have been an easy > decision, anyway). But I do often add links to merchants in other > countries on my web site to help direct residents toward worthwhile > merchants. I don't think I'll be putting up any positive links for > this guy. > > Dan Oh you should: they've got 'Chat Lynch Badge', afterall ;-). Sammy |
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![]() "Dan Miller" > wrote in message om... > > > On 4 Aug 2004 03:53:56 -0700, (WineSellerTeam) wrote: > > > > > > >Hi Folks, > > > > > > > >Be sure and check out http://www.wineselleronline.com - Its a new wine > > > >site based in Ireland with over 21 years experience in the business. > > > >And establish list of customers shows these guys mean business.Wines > > > >at wholesale prices, often the same as what off licenses buy them for! > > > > > > > >These guys also supply Coffe machines for your business backed up by > > > >some great aftersales service. You can download the catalogue of wines > > > >from the site at any time or call them with a query. > > > > > > > >So go on and check it out! > > > > > > > >www.wineselleronline.com > > Mike Tommasi > wrote in message > > > > > > You work for them. So don't pretend you are some objective client. > > > > > > This is not what this forum is intended for. And 99% of your audience > > > is not even in Ireland, incredible as that may seem. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France > > > email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail > > (WineSellerTeam) wrote in message . com>... > > I think that was intended alright Mike > > > > Lighten up > > > > Rather than waste alt.food.wine space expressing displeasure about > 'Shilling' for one's own commercial site, I sent a direct e-mail > explaining that such postings were out of place and could easily be > viewed as unethical. > > Daragh MacLoughlin was 'kind enough' to respond and explain that: > > 1) "i never tried to hide any affiliation" > 2) "Ever hear of a language barrier Dan? English isnt my first > language so i cannot always convey what i need to" > 3) "well to be honest i didnt actually check to see the general flow > of conversation or check the rules and in fact i think that was the > first ever post ive made to alt groups" > > So, thanks Daragh! Since I'm not in Ireland, I don't have to decide > whether to do business with this company. (It would have been an easy > decision, anyway). But I do often add links to merchants in other > countries on my web site to help direct residents toward worthwhile > merchants. I don't think I'll be putting up any positive links for > this guy. > > Dan Oh you should: they've got 'Chat Lynch Badge', afterall ;-). Sammy |
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![]() "Dan Miller" > wrote in message om... > > > On 4 Aug 2004 03:53:56 -0700, (WineSellerTeam) wrote: > > > > > > >Hi Folks, > > > > > > > >Be sure and check out http://www.wineselleronline.com - Its a new wine > > > >site based in Ireland with over 21 years experience in the business. > > > >And establish list of customers shows these guys mean business.Wines > > > >at wholesale prices, often the same as what off licenses buy them for! > > > > > > > >These guys also supply Coffe machines for your business backed up by > > > >some great aftersales service. You can download the catalogue of wines > > > >from the site at any time or call them with a query. > > > > > > > >So go on and check it out! > > > > > > > >www.wineselleronline.com > > Mike Tommasi > wrote in message > > > > > > You work for them. So don't pretend you are some objective client. > > > > > > This is not what this forum is intended for. And 99% of your audience > > > is not even in Ireland, incredible as that may seem. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France > > > email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail > > (WineSellerTeam) wrote in message . com>... > > I think that was intended alright Mike > > > > Lighten up > > > > Rather than waste alt.food.wine space expressing displeasure about > 'Shilling' for one's own commercial site, I sent a direct e-mail > explaining that such postings were out of place and could easily be > viewed as unethical. > > Daragh MacLoughlin was 'kind enough' to respond and explain that: > > 1) "i never tried to hide any affiliation" > 2) "Ever hear of a language barrier Dan? English isnt my first > language so i cannot always convey what i need to" > 3) "well to be honest i didnt actually check to see the general flow > of conversation or check the rules and in fact i think that was the > first ever post ive made to alt groups" > > So, thanks Daragh! Since I'm not in Ireland, I don't have to decide > whether to do business with this company. (It would have been an easy > decision, anyway). But I do often add links to merchants in other > countries on my web site to help direct residents toward worthwhile > merchants. I don't think I'll be putting up any positive links for > this guy. > > Dan Oh you should: they've got 'Chat Lynch Badge', afterall ;-). Sammy |
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Sammy wrote:
> "Dan Miller" > wrote in message > om... > >>>>On 4 Aug 2004 03:53:56 -0700, (WineSellerTeam) wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi Folks, >>>>> >>>>>Be sure and check out http://www.wineselleronline.com - Its a new > > wine > >>>>>site based in Ireland with over 21 years experience in the business. >>>>>And establish list of customers shows these guys mean business.Wines >>>>>at wholesale prices, often the same as what off licenses buy them > > for! > >>>>>These guys also supply Coffe machines for your business backed up by >>>>>some great aftersales service. You can download the catalogue of > > wines > >>>>>from the site at any time or call them with a query. >>>> >>>>>So go on and check it out! >>>>> >>>>>www.wineselleronline.com >> >> Mike Tommasi > wrote in message >> >>>>You work for them. So don't pretend you are some objective client. >>>> >>>>This is not what this forum is intended for. And 99% of your audience >>>>is not even in Ireland, incredible as that may seem. >>>> >>>>Mike >>>> >>>>Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France >>>>email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail >> (WineSellerTeam) wrote in message > > . com>... > >>>I think that was intended alright Mike >>> >>>Lighten up >>> >> >>Rather than waste alt.food.wine space expressing displeasure about >>'Shilling' for one's own commercial site, I sent a direct e-mail >>explaining that such postings were out of place and could easily be >>viewed as unethical. >> >>Daragh MacLoughlin was 'kind enough' to respond and explain that: >> >>1) "i never tried to hide any affiliation" >>2) "Ever hear of a language barrier Dan? English isnt my first >>language so i cannot always convey what i need to" >>3) "well to be honest i didnt actually check to see the general flow >>of conversation or check the rules and in fact i think that was the >>first ever post ive made to alt groups" >> >>So, thanks Daragh! Since I'm not in Ireland, I don't have to decide >>whether to do business with this company. (It would have been an easy >>decision, anyway). But I do often add links to merchants in other >>countries on my web site to help direct residents toward worthwhile >>merchants. I don't think I'll be putting up any positive links for >>this guy. >> >>Dan > > > Oh you should: they've got 'Chat Lynch Badge', afterall ;-). > > Sammy > > Is this where someone starts a "back to wine" thread? Lloyd |
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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 13:36:50 +0200, Mike Tommasi >
wrote: >On 4 Aug 2004 03:53:56 -0700, (WineSellerTeam) wrote: > >>Hi Folks, >> >>Be sure and check out http://www.wineselleronline.com - Its a new wine >>site based in Ireland with over 21 years experience in the business. >>And establish list of customers shows these guys mean business.Wines >>at wholesale prices, often the same as what off licenses buy them for! >> >>These guys also supply Coffe machines for your business backed up by >>some great aftersales service. You can download the catalogue of wines >>from the site at any time or call them with a query. >> >>So go on and check it out! >> >>www.wineselleronline.com > >You work for them. So don't pretend you are some objective client. He posted as WineSeller Team. I don't see any pretense >This is not what this forum is intended for. And 99% of your audience >is not even in Ireland, incredible as that may seem. From http://www.virtual-ink.com.au/afw-faq/guide.htm "3.4 Can I advertise my wine website? As mentioned in the Advertising on Usenet FAQ, on-topic business (including website) announcements are allowed. You may announce any wine-related website on the group. Non-wine-related website announcements are off-topic, and thus should not be posted to the group. Wine-related announcements should be limited to the launching of a website or a major addition to/subtraction from/redesign of the site, and they should ideally be informational, rather than promotional, in nature. A handy rule of thumb is that if you are posting an announcement more than once a month, you're probably posting too often, and you're likely to get on someone's nerves, even if your site is the best thing since the invention of bottled wine." That rule sounds very well-worded to me. So what is the problem with the post? The "ideally be informational" bit is the only possible problem one could have. -- Steve Slatcher http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher |
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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 13:36:50 +0200, Mike Tommasi >
wrote: >On 4 Aug 2004 03:53:56 -0700, (WineSellerTeam) wrote: > >>Hi Folks, >> >>Be sure and check out http://www.wineselleronline.com - Its a new wine >>site based in Ireland with over 21 years experience in the business. >>And establish list of customers shows these guys mean business.Wines >>at wholesale prices, often the same as what off licenses buy them for! >> >>These guys also supply Coffe machines for your business backed up by >>some great aftersales service. You can download the catalogue of wines >>from the site at any time or call them with a query. >> >>So go on and check it out! >> >>www.wineselleronline.com > >You work for them. So don't pretend you are some objective client. He posted as WineSeller Team. I don't see any pretense >This is not what this forum is intended for. And 99% of your audience >is not even in Ireland, incredible as that may seem. From http://www.virtual-ink.com.au/afw-faq/guide.htm "3.4 Can I advertise my wine website? As mentioned in the Advertising on Usenet FAQ, on-topic business (including website) announcements are allowed. You may announce any wine-related website on the group. Non-wine-related website announcements are off-topic, and thus should not be posted to the group. Wine-related announcements should be limited to the launching of a website or a major addition to/subtraction from/redesign of the site, and they should ideally be informational, rather than promotional, in nature. A handy rule of thumb is that if you are posting an announcement more than once a month, you're probably posting too often, and you're likely to get on someone's nerves, even if your site is the best thing since the invention of bottled wine." That rule sounds very well-worded to me. So what is the problem with the post? The "ideally be informational" bit is the only possible problem one could have. -- Steve Slatcher http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher |
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