Going on a last minute trip to the La Rochelle area (of France, that is) tomorrow
for a couple of days. Any recs for Vin de Pays (or other, but I think that's all
that there is there) not to be missed? Quick trip with Adele and the kids, so
long detours (e.g. Bordeaux or Nantes) are not on.

TIA

-E

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Emery,
don't forget that is Cognac count(r)y, so most wines from that area are
specifically produced to be distilled afterwards. So don't expect to come
across great local wines, but if you are into spirits, there should be some
interesting smaller Cognac houses to explore...

Regards

Yves

"Emery Davis" > wrote in message
. ..
> Going on a last minute trip to the La Rochelle area (of France, that is)
tomorrow
> for a couple of days. Any recs for Vin de Pays (or other, but I think
that's all
> that there is there) not to be missed? Quick trip with Adele and the
kids, so
> long detours (e.g. Bordeaux or Nantes) are not on.
>
> TIA
>
> -E
>
> --
> Emery Davis
> You can reply to
> by removing the well known companies

Yes, cognac is made almost entirely from Trebbiano grapes picked early
(for some reason, distilling requires wine with high acidity, anyone
know why?).

Mike


On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:24:09 +0200, "Yves T." >
wrote:

>Emery,
>don't forget that is Cognac count(r)y, so most wines from that area are
>specifically produced to be distilled afterwards. So don't expect to come
>across great local wines, but if you are into spirits, there should be some
>interesting smaller Cognac houses to explore...
>
>Regards
>
>Yves
>
>"Emery Davis" > wrote in message
...
>> Going on a last minute trip to the La Rochelle area (of France, that is)
>tomorrow
>> for a couple of days. Any recs for Vin de Pays (or other, but I think
>that's all
>> that there is there) not to be missed? Quick trip with Adele and the
>kids, so
>> long detours (e.g. Bordeaux or Nantes) are not on.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> -E
>>
>> --
>> Emery Davis
>> You can reply to
>> by removing the well known companies
>


Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

Mike Tommasi wrote:
> Yes, cognac is made almost entirely from Trebbiano grapes picked early
> (for some reason, distilling requires wine with high acidity, anyone
> know why?).

Fascinating question, Mike. I would hazard a guess that its another
facet of the observation that more highly acidic wines tend to age
better (within limits, of course). I suspect that the high acidity
helps protect the wine from extreme maderization during the distillation
process by partially suppressing oxidation. (Acids slow the oxidation
of the phenolics in wine by keeping the phenols protonated).

Just my (somewhat educated) guess,
Mark Lipton

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:32:50 -0500, Mark Lipton >
wrote:

>Mike Tommasi wrote:
>> Yes, cognac is made almost entirely from Trebbiano grapes picked early
>> (for some reason, distilling requires wine with high acidity, anyone
>> know why?).
>
>Fascinating question, Mike. I would hazard a guess that its another
>facet of the observation that more highly acidic wines tend to age
>better (within limits, of course). I suspect that the high acidity
>helps protect the wine from extreme maderization during the distillation
>process by partially suppressing oxidation. (Acids slow the oxidation
>of the phenolics in wine by keeping the phenols protonated).

Makes sense Mark. Avoids having to add lemon juice ;-)))

Mike

Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

Mike Tommasi wrote:
> Yes, cognac is made almost entirely from Trebbiano grapes picked early
> (for some reason, distilling requires wine with high acidity, anyone
> know why?).

Fascinating question, Mike. I would hazard a guess that its another
facet of the observation that more highly acidic wines tend to age
better (within limits, of course). I suspect that the high acidity
helps protect the wine from extreme maderization during the distillation
process by partially suppressing oxidation. (Acids slow the oxidation
of the phenolics in wine by keeping the phenols protonated).

Just my (somewhat educated) guess,
Mark Lipton

Mike,
according to my sources (Gert von Paczensky: Cognac) the dominating grape is
Ugni blanc, followed by Colombard and Folle blanche. The wine made from Ugni
is extremely dry (less than 1 gr of residual sugar), with 8-10 % alc. Still
this does not answer your question about the acidity required to produce
cognac...

REgards

Yves

"Mike Tommasi" > wrote in message
...
> Yes, cognac is made almost entirely from Trebbiano grapes picked early
> (for some reason, distilling requires wine with high acidity, anyone
> know why?).
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:24:09 +0200, "Yves T." >
> wrote:
>
> >Emery,
> >don't forget that is Cognac count(r)y, so most wines from that area are
> >specifically produced to be distilled afterwards. So don't expect to come
> >across great local wines, but if you are into spirits, there should be
some
> >interesting smaller Cognac houses to explore...
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Yves
> >
> >"Emery Davis" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Going on a last minute trip to the La Rochelle area (of France, that
is)
> >tomorrow
> >> for a couple of days. Any recs for Vin de Pays (or other, but I think
> >that's all
> >> that there is there) not to be missed? Quick trip with Adele and the
> >kids, so
> >> long detours (e.g. Bordeaux or Nantes) are not on.
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> -E
> >>
> >> --
> >> Emery Davis
> >> You can reply to
> >> by removing the well known companies
> >
>
>
> Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
> email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

Hi Yves

Mark answered the acidity question, it prevents oxidation.

About Colombard and Folle Blanche, they are less than 4% of the grapes
used in Cognac

Mike

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 14:47:19 +0200, "Yves T." >
wrote:

>Mike,
>according to my sources (Gert von Paczensky: Cognac) the dominating grape is
>Ugni blanc, followed by Colombard and Folle blanche. The wine made from Ugni
>is extremely dry (less than 1 gr of residual sugar), with 8-10 % alc. Still
>this does not answer your question about the acidity required to produce
>cognac...
>
>REgards
>
>Yves
>
>"Mike Tommasi" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Yes, cognac is made almost entirely from Trebbiano grapes picked early
>> (for some reason, distilling requires wine with high acidity, anyone
>> know why?).
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:24:09 +0200, "Yves T." >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Emery,
>> >don't forget that is Cognac count(r)y, so most wines from that area are
>> >specifically produced to be distilled afterwards. So don't expect to come
>> >across great local wines, but if you are into spirits, there should be
>some
>> >interesting smaller Cognac houses to explore...
>> >
>> >Regards
>> >
>> >Yves
>> >
>> >"Emery Davis" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Going on a last minute trip to the La Rochelle area (of France, that
>is)
>> >tomorrow
>> >> for a couple of days. Any recs for Vin de Pays (or other, but I think
>> >that's all
>> >> that there is there) not to be missed? Quick trip with Adele and the
>> >kids, so
>> >> long detours (e.g. Bordeaux or Nantes) are not on.
>> >>
>> >> TIA
>> >>
>> >> -E
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Emery Davis
>> >> You can reply to
>> >> by removing the well known companies
>> >
>>
>>
>> Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
>> email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail
>


Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

"Yves T." > wrote:

> according to my sources (Gert von Paczensky: Cognac) the
> dominating grape is Ugni blanc

Ugni blanc is Trebbiano, btw.

M.

"Yves T." > wrote:

> according to my sources (Gert von Paczensky: Cognac) the
> dominating grape is Ugni blanc

Ugni blanc is Trebbiano, btw.

M.

"Yves T." > wrote:

> according to my sources (Gert von Paczensky: Cognac) the
> dominating grape is Ugni blanc

Ugni blanc is Trebbiano, btw.

M.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:24:09 +0200, "Yves T." > said:

] Emery,
] don't forget that is Cognac count(r)y, so most wines from that area are
] specifically produced to be distilled afterwards. So don't expect to come
] across great local wines, but if you are into spirits, there should be some
] interesting smaller Cognac houses to explore...
]
] Regards
]
] Yves
]
[]

Thanks Yves. I did know, but figured, why not ask? Anyway, just back,
had some pretty bad local plonk, but a nice Menetou-Salon on the very
lovely Ile de Re. And some nice beach time, to boot.

cheers,

-E
--
Emery Davis
You can reply to
by removing the well known companies

Yes, cognac is made almost entirely from Trebbiano grapes picked early
(for some reason, distilling requires wine with high acidity, anyone
know why?).

Mike


On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:24:09 +0200, "Yves T." >
wrote:

>Emery,
>don't forget that is Cognac count(r)y, so most wines from that area are
>specifically produced to be distilled afterwards. So don't expect to come
>across great local wines, but if you are into spirits, there should be some
>interesting smaller Cognac houses to explore...
>
>Regards
>
>Yves
>
>"Emery Davis" > wrote in message
...
>> Going on a last minute trip to the La Rochelle area (of France, that is)
>tomorrow
>> for a couple of days. Any recs for Vin de Pays (or other, but I think
>that's all
>> that there is there) not to be missed? Quick trip with Adele and the
>kids, so
>> long detours (e.g. Bordeaux or Nantes) are not on.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> -E
>>
>> --
>> Emery Davis
>> You can reply to
>> by removing the well known companies
>


Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:24:09 +0200, "Yves T." > said:

] Emery,
] don't forget that is Cognac count(r)y, so most wines from that area are
] specifically produced to be distilled afterwards. So don't expect to come
] across great local wines, but if you are into spirits, there should be some
] interesting smaller Cognac houses to explore...
]
] Regards
]
] Yves
]
[]

Thanks Yves. I did know, but figured, why not ask? Anyway, just back,
had some pretty bad local plonk, but a nice Menetou-Salon on the very
lovely Ile de Re. And some nice beach time, to boot.

cheers,

-E
--
Emery Davis
You can reply to
by removing the well known companies

Yes, cognac is made almost entirely from Trebbiano grapes picked early
(for some reason, distilling requires wine with high acidity, anyone
know why?).

Mike


On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:24:09 +0200, "Yves T." >
wrote:

>Emery,
>don't forget that is Cognac count(r)y, so most wines from that area are
>specifically produced to be distilled afterwards. So don't expect to come
>across great local wines, but if you are into spirits, there should be some
>interesting smaller Cognac houses to explore...
>
>Regards
>
>Yves
>
>"Emery Davis" > wrote in message
...
>> Going on a last minute trip to the La Rochelle area (of France, that is)
>tomorrow
>> for a couple of days. Any recs for Vin de Pays (or other, but I think
>that's all
>> that there is there) not to be missed? Quick trip with Adele and the
>kids, so
>> long detours (e.g. Bordeaux or Nantes) are not on.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> -E
>>
>> --
>> Emery Davis
>> You can reply to
>> by removing the well known companies
>


Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

Emery,
don't forget that is Cognac count(r)y, so most wines from that area are
specifically produced to be distilled afterwards. So don't expect to come
across great local wines, but if you are into spirits, there should be some
interesting smaller Cognac houses to explore...

Regards

Yves

"Emery Davis" > wrote in message
. ..
> Going on a last minute trip to the La Rochelle area (of France, that is)
tomorrow
> for a couple of days. Any recs for Vin de Pays (or other, but I think
that's all
> that there is there) not to be missed? Quick trip with Adele and the
kids, so
> long detours (e.g. Bordeaux or Nantes) are not on.
>
> TIA
>
> -E
>
> --
> Emery Davis
> You can reply to
> by removing the well known companies