Hello,
Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced wine,
but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy several
times a week.

Thanks!

What are you paying for your IceWine,?What vintage and what vintner are you
enjoying and where are you buying it?
"Tanya" > wrote in message
...
> Hello,
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced wine,
> but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy several
> times a week.
>
> Thanks!
>
>

What are you paying for your IceWine,?What vintage and what vintner are you
enjoying and where are you buying it?
"Tanya" > wrote in message
...
> Hello,
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced wine,
> but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy several
> times a week.
>
> Thanks!
>
>

Tanya: where are you located? as that will have an affect on what wines you
can get your hands on...

cheers
Mathew
"wp23" > wrote in message
.. .
> What are you paying for your IceWine,?What vintage and what vintner are
you
> enjoying and where are you buying it?
> "Tanya" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hello,
> > Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced
wine,
> > but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy several
> > times a week.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
>
>

Tanya: where are you located? as that will have an affect on what wines you
can get your hands on...

cheers
Mathew
"wp23" > wrote in message
.. .
> What are you paying for your IceWine,?What vintage and what vintner are
you
> enjoying and where are you buying it?
> "Tanya" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hello,
> > Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced
wine,
> > but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy several
> > times a week.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
>
>

The wine is called Iced Delaware by Klingshirn in Ohio. It is the best of
the Ohio Wineries. It is $20 for a 375ml bottle, which isn't bad for ice
wine, but too expensive for everyday enjoyment.

www.klingshirnwine.com


"wp23" > wrote in message
.. .
> What are you paying for your IceWine,?What vintage and what vintner are
you
> enjoying and where are you buying it?
> "Tanya" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hello,
> > Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced
wine,
> > but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy several
> > times a week.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
>
>

Hello!

I am the Greater Cleveland area of Ohio.

"Mathew Kagis" > wrote in message
news:48WYc.77920$X12.66093@edtnps84...
> Tanya: where are you located? as that will have an affect on what wines
you
> can get your hands on...
>
> cheers
> Mathew
> "wp23" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > What are you paying for your IceWine,?What vintage and what vintner are
> you
> > enjoying and where are you buying it?
> > "Tanya" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Hello,
> > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced
> wine,
> > > but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy
several
> > > times a week.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Since you live here in the northeast (or pretty close - I'm in PA),
you might be able to find wines made from native American grapes like
Concord (red), Niagara or Cayuga (both white), or Catawba (often made
into rose). These wines tend to be simple and grapey, so I don't know
if they will be up your alley.

Otherwise, you might like German-made Riesling Spatlese or Auslese
(some of these are dry, though) or Vidal ice wine from New York or
Canada. Some of these might out your price range, though.

Dan-O

"Tanya" > wrote in message om>...
> Hello!
>
> I am the Greater Cleveland area of Ohio.
>
> "Mathew Kagis" > wrote in message
> news:48WYc.77920$X12.66093@edtnps84...
> > Tanya: where are you located? as that will have an affect on what wines
> you
> > can get your hands on...
> >
> > cheers
> > Mathew
> > "wp23" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> > > What are you paying for your IceWine,?What vintage and what vintner are
> you
> > > enjoying and where are you buying it?
> > > "Tanya" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hello,
> > > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced
> wine,
> > > > but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy
> several
> > > > times a week.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Since you live here in the northeast (or pretty close - I'm in PA),
you might be able to find wines made from native American grapes like
Concord (red), Niagara or Cayuga (both white), or Catawba (often made
into rose). These wines tend to be simple and grapey, so I don't know
if they will be up your alley.

Otherwise, you might like German-made Riesling Spatlese or Auslese
(some of these are dry, though) or Vidal ice wine from New York or
Canada. Some of these might out your price range, though.

Dan-O

"Tanya" > wrote in message om>...
> Hello!
>
> I am the Greater Cleveland area of Ohio.
>
> "Mathew Kagis" > wrote in message
> news:48WYc.77920$X12.66093@edtnps84...
> > Tanya: where are you located? as that will have an affect on what wines
> you
> > can get your hands on...
> >
> > cheers
> > Mathew
> > "wp23" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> > > What are you paying for your IceWine,?What vintage and what vintner are
> you
> > > enjoying and where are you buying it?
> > > "Tanya" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hello,
> > > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced
> wine,
> > > > but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy
> several
> > > > times a week.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:22:56 GMT, "Tanya"
> wrote:

>The wine is called Iced Delaware by Klingshirn in Ohio. It is the best of
>the Ohio Wineries. It is $20 for a 375ml bottle, which isn't bad for ice
>wine, but too expensive for everyday enjoyment.

Ice wine, eiswein and noble rot wines are not intended for everyday
enjoyment. So you can easily afford to spend $20 for a special
occasion every 3 months or so...

My experience with most ice wine is that it is cheap cloying badly
made sugary stuff with a pretty bottle, opportunists jumoing on the
marketing success of Niagara. The notable exceptions are exactly the
opposite, exceptional wines.

I think that no ice wine or eiswein comes close to the complexity of a
botrytis wine, so I tend to prefer the latter.

Mike

Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:22:56 GMT, "Tanya"
> wrote:

>The wine is called Iced Delaware by Klingshirn in Ohio. It is the best of
>the Ohio Wineries. It is $20 for a 375ml bottle, which isn't bad for ice
>wine, but too expensive for everyday enjoyment.

Ice wine, eiswein and noble rot wines are not intended for everyday
enjoyment. So you can easily afford to spend $20 for a special
occasion every 3 months or so...

My experience with most ice wine is that it is cheap cloying badly
made sugary stuff with a pretty bottle, opportunists jumoing on the
marketing success of Niagara. The notable exceptions are exactly the
opposite, exceptional wines.

I think that no ice wine or eiswein comes close to the complexity of a
botrytis wine, so I tend to prefer the latter.

Mike

Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

"Tanya" > wrote in message
m...
> Hello!
>
> I am the Greater Cleveland area of Ohio.
>
> "Mathew Kagis" > wrote in message
> news:48WYc.77920$X12.66093@edtnps84...
> > Tanya: where are you located? as that will have an affect on what wines
> you
> > can get your hands on...
> >
> > cheers
> > Mathew
> > "wp23" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> > > What are you paying for your IceWine,?What vintage and what vintner
are
> > you
> > > enjoying and where are you buying it?
> > > "Tanya" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hello,
> > > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced
> > wine,
> > > > but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy
> several
> > > > times a week.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

The only US sweet wine I have tried this year is Obsession by Ironstone
vineyards, although it is a very different style it might be worth a try.
Brown Brothers Orange Muscat and Flora in half bottles might be of interest,
or cheaper their late picked Muscat.
The best bet is probably a German auslese but I don't know what would be
available to you.

Yes, I would concur absolutely on the Brown Brothers Orange Muscat and Flora, I had
some last night, but it is a trifle expensive. For a cheaper alternative with a
similar "dessert wine" style, try a Muscat de Beaumes de Venise or even one of the
better quality Moscatel de Valencias.
I'm a long way from Ohio, so I can't help with availability, I'm afraid.

Regards,

Ian

"David Deuchar" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tanya" > wrote in message
> m...
> > Hello!
> >
> > I am the Greater Cleveland area of Ohio.
> >
> > "Mathew Kagis" > wrote in message
> > news:48WYc.77920$X12.66093@edtnps84...
> > > Tanya: where are you located? as that will have an affect on what wines
> > you
> > > can get your hands on...
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > Mathew
> > > "wp23" > wrote in message
> > > .. .
> > > > What are you paying for your IceWine,?What vintage and what vintner
> are
> > > you
> > > > enjoying and where are you buying it?
> > > > "Tanya" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced
> > > wine,
> > > > > but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy
> > several
> > > > > times a week.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> The only US sweet wine I have tried this year is Obsession by Ironstone
> vineyards, although it is a very different style it might be worth a try.
> Brown Brothers Orange Muscat and Flora in half bottles might be of interest,
> or cheaper their late picked Muscat.
> The best bet is probably a German auslese but I don't know what would be
> available to you.
>
>

Yes, I would concur absolutely on the Brown Brothers Orange Muscat and Flora, I had
some last night, but it is a trifle expensive. For a cheaper alternative with a
similar "dessert wine" style, try a Muscat de Beaumes de Venise or even one of the
better quality Moscatel de Valencias.
I'm a long way from Ohio, so I can't help with availability, I'm afraid.

Regards,

Ian

"David Deuchar" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tanya" > wrote in message
> m...
> > Hello!
> >
> > I am the Greater Cleveland area of Ohio.
> >
> > "Mathew Kagis" > wrote in message
> > news:48WYc.77920$X12.66093@edtnps84...
> > > Tanya: where are you located? as that will have an affect on what wines
> > you
> > > can get your hands on...
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > Mathew
> > > "wp23" > wrote in message
> > > .. .
> > > > What are you paying for your IceWine,?What vintage and what vintner
> are
> > > you
> > > > enjoying and where are you buying it?
> > > > "Tanya" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced
> > > wine,
> > > > > but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy
> > several
> > > > > times a week.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> The only US sweet wine I have tried this year is Obsession by Ironstone
> vineyards, although it is a very different style it might be worth a try.
> Brown Brothers Orange Muscat and Flora in half bottles might be of interest,
> or cheaper their late picked Muscat.
> The best bet is probably a German auslese but I don't know what would be
> available to you.
>
>

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 08:24:18 GMT, "David Deuchar"
> wrote:

>The best bet is probably a German auslese but I don't know what would be
>available to you.

Or a cheaper German wine, e.g. Spätlese or Kabinett. I tend to prefer
the lighter Kabinett style for most occasions. And it is so low in
alcohol you can drink even more :-)

These are usually sweet, but do also come in dry (trocken) or medium
dry (halbtrocken or feinherb) styles so watch out!

--
Steve Slatcher
http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 08:24:18 GMT, "David Deuchar"
> wrote:

>The best bet is probably a German auslese but I don't know what would be
>available to you.

Or a cheaper German wine, e.g. Spätlese or Kabinett. I tend to prefer
the lighter Kabinett style for most occasions. And it is so low in
alcohol you can drink even more :-)

These are usually sweet, but do also come in dry (trocken) or medium
dry (halbtrocken or feinherb) styles so watch out!

--
Steve Slatcher
http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher

If you like icewine, how about Renwood's Amador Ice (Zinfandel). It's
$13 or $14 for a 375.

Mike Tommasi > wrote in message news:
> I think that no ice wine or eiswein comes close to the complexity of a
> botrytis wine, so I tend to prefer the latter.
>
> Mike
>

How 'bout an Icewine made from grapes affected by botrytis?

(just being difficult!)
e. winemonger
www.winemonger.com

Mike Tommasi > wrote in message news:
> I think that no ice wine or eiswein comes close to the complexity of a
> botrytis wine, so I tend to prefer the latter.
>
> Mike
>

How 'bout an Icewine made from grapes affected by botrytis?

(just being difficult!)
e. winemonger
www.winemonger.com

On 3 Sep 2004 08:41:56 -0700, (winemonger)
wrote:

>Mike Tommasi > wrote in message news:
>> I think that no ice wine or eiswein comes close to the complexity of a
>> botrytis wine, so I tend to prefer the latter.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>How 'bout an Icewine made from grapes affected by botrytis?

Would that still be a liquid?

Mike

Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

On 3 Sep 2004 08:41:56 -0700, (winemonger)
wrote:

>Mike Tommasi > wrote in message news:
>> I think that no ice wine or eiswein comes close to the complexity of a
>> botrytis wine, so I tend to prefer the latter.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>How 'bout an Icewine made from grapes affected by botrytis?

Would that still be a liquid?

Mike

Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

(winemonger)
>wrote:
>
>>Mike Tommasi > wrote in message news:
>>> I think that no ice wine or eiswein comes close to the complexity of a
>>> botrytis wine, so I tend to prefer the latter.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
>>How 'bout an Icewine made from grapes affected by botrytis?
>
>Would that still be a liquid?
>
I actually have a strong preference for Eiswein from non-botrytis-infected
grapes (it's pretty common though not usual for there to be botrytis in
eiswein). Eiswein with rot doesn't play to the strengths of either style of
dessert wine.

Dale

Dale Williams
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(winemonger)
>wrote:
>
>>Mike Tommasi > wrote in message news:
>>> I think that no ice wine or eiswein comes close to the complexity of a
>>> botrytis wine, so I tend to prefer the latter.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
>>How 'bout an Icewine made from grapes affected by botrytis?
>
>Would that still be a liquid?
>
I actually have a strong preference for Eiswein from non-botrytis-infected
grapes (it's pretty common though not usual for there to be botrytis in
eiswein). Eiswein with rot doesn't play to the strengths of either style of
dessert wine.

Dale

Dale Williams
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amnspam (Dale Williams) wrote in message news:<
> I actually have a strong preference for Eiswein from non-botrytis-infected
> grapes (it's pretty common though not usual for there to be botrytis in
> eiswein). Eiswein with rot doesn't play to the strengths of either style of
> dessert wine.
>
> Dale

Hi Dale-
Can't say as I agree with your tastes here, but that's the way it
goes. However, I've had some exquisite Icewines lately which are made
from the Grüner Veltliner varietal. The vintner (Manfred Weiss)
prefers using it for his Icewines specifically because it isn't as
easily affected by botrytis.
-e. winemonger
_________________________
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amnspam (Dale Williams) wrote in message news:<
> I actually have a strong preference for Eiswein from non-botrytis-infected
> grapes (it's pretty common though not usual for there to be botrytis in
> eiswein). Eiswein with rot doesn't play to the strengths of either style of
> dessert wine.
>
> Dale

Hi Dale-
Can't say as I agree with your tastes here, but that's the way it
goes. However, I've had some exquisite Icewines lately which are made
from the Grüner Veltliner varietal. The vintner (Manfred Weiss)
prefers using it for his Icewines specifically because it isn't as
easily affected by botrytis.
-e. winemonger
_________________________
www.winemonger.com

amnspam (Dale Williams) wrote in message news:<
> I actually have a strong preference for Eiswein from non-botrytis-infected
> grapes (it's pretty common though not usual for there to be botrytis in
> eiswein). Eiswein with rot doesn't play to the strengths of either style of
> dessert wine.
>
> Dale

Hi Dale-
Can't say as I agree with your tastes here, but that's the way it
goes. However, I've had some exquisite Icewines lately which are made
from the Grüner Veltliner varietal. The vintner (Manfred Weiss)
prefers using it for his Icewines specifically because it isn't as
easily affected by botrytis.
-e. winemonger
_________________________
www.winemonger.com

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:16:03 GMT, "Ian Hayward" > said:

] Yes, I would concur absolutely on the Brown Brothers Orange Muscat and Flora, I had
] some last night, but it is a trifle expensive. For a cheaper alternative with a
] similar "dessert wine" style, try a Muscat de Beaumes de Venise or even one of the
] better quality Moscatel de Valencias.

Muscat de Beaumes de Venise (or de Rivesaltes) can be quite cheap on the continent,
but in Ohio one is likely to find only Vidal-Fleury or some other negoc for a pretty
penny, I'm afraid. Actually the coop at BdV does a pretty nice one that really doesn't
break the bank.

How about a young, inexpensive Coteaux du Layon?

-E

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You can reply to
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On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:05:49 +0200, Emery Davis >
wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:16:03 GMT, "Ian Hayward" > said:
>
>] Yes, I would concur absolutely on the Brown Brothers Orange Muscat and Flora, I had
>] some last night, but it is a trifle expensive. For a cheaper alternative with a
>] similar "dessert wine" style, try a Muscat de Beaumes de Venise or even one of the
>] better quality Moscatel de Valencias.
>
>Muscat de Beaumes de Venise (or de Rivesaltes) can be quite cheap on the continent,
>but in Ohio one is likely to find only Vidal-Fleury or some other negoc for a pretty
>penny, I'm afraid. Actually the coop at BdV does a pretty nice one that really doesn't
>break the bank.
>
>How about a young, inexpensive Coteaux du Layon?

Er, are there any inexpensive ones? I mean, other than chaptalized?

Mike

Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:45:36 +0200, Mike Tommasi > said:

] On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:05:49 +0200, Emery Davis >
] wrote:
[]
] >How about a young, inexpensive Coteaux du Layon?
]=20
] Er, are there any inexpensive ones? I mean, other than chaptalized?=20
]=20

Hi Mike,

We get a 2eme trie from Dom Ambinos that's around 10 =A4. I'm pretty
sure it's unchaptalized. Not stellar but very pleasant.

Anyway given where the OP is starting from I suspect this is not an issue! =


-E

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You can reply to
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I did not get the basic post and I do not know where you are at, but you
might consider the wines of Quady Winery in California. He make two that
might interest you. A Black Muscat Called Elysium and a Orange Muscat called
Eessensia. They retail for about (US) $18-20 for a 750 ml bottle. Great
value for a very good dessert wine an readily available.



"Emery Davis" > wrote in message
. ..
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:16:03 GMT, "Ian Hayward"
> > said:
>
> ] Yes, I would concur absolutely on the Brown Brothers Orange Muscat and
> Flora, I had
> ] some last night, but it is a trifle expensive. For a cheaper
> alternative with a
> ] similar "dessert wine" style, try a Muscat de Beaumes de Venise or even
> one of the
> ] better quality Moscatel de Valencias.
>
> Muscat de Beaumes de Venise (or de Rivesaltes) can be quite cheap on the
> continent,
> but in Ohio one is likely to find only Vidal-Fleury or some other negoc
> for a pretty
> penny, I'm afraid. Actually the coop at BdV does a pretty nice one that
> really doesn't
> break the bank.
>
> How about a young, inexpensive Coteaux du Layon?
>
> -E
>
> --
> Emery Davis
> You can reply to
> by removing the well known companies

I did not get the basic post and I do not know where you are at, but you
might consider the wines of Quady Winery in California. He make two that
might interest you. A Black Muscat Called Elysium and a Orange Muscat called
Eessensia. They retail for about (US) $18-20 for a 750 ml bottle. Great
value for a very good dessert wine an readily available.



"Emery Davis" > wrote in message
. ..
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:16:03 GMT, "Ian Hayward"
> > said:
>
> ] Yes, I would concur absolutely on the Brown Brothers Orange Muscat and
> Flora, I had
> ] some last night, but it is a trifle expensive. For a cheaper
> alternative with a
> ] similar "dessert wine" style, try a Muscat de Beaumes de Venise or even
> one of the
> ] better quality Moscatel de Valencias.
>
> Muscat de Beaumes de Venise (or de Rivesaltes) can be quite cheap on the
> continent,
> but in Ohio one is likely to find only Vidal-Fleury or some other negoc
> for a pretty
> penny, I'm afraid. Actually the coop at BdV does a pretty nice one that
> really doesn't
> break the bank.
>
> How about a young, inexpensive Coteaux du Layon?
>
> -E
>
> --
> Emery Davis
> You can reply to
> by removing the well known companies

I did not get the basic post and I do not know where you are at, but you
might consider the wines of Quady Winery in California. He make two that
might interest you. A Black Muscat Called Elysium and a Orange Muscat called
Eessensia. They retail for about (US) $18-20 for a 750 ml bottle. Great
value for a very good dessert wine an readily available.



"Emery Davis" > wrote in message
. ..
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:16:03 GMT, "Ian Hayward"
> > said:
>
> ] Yes, I would concur absolutely on the Brown Brothers Orange Muscat and
> Flora, I had
> ] some last night, but it is a trifle expensive. For a cheaper
> alternative with a
> ] similar "dessert wine" style, try a Muscat de Beaumes de Venise or even
> one of the
> ] better quality Moscatel de Valencias.
>
> Muscat de Beaumes de Venise (or de Rivesaltes) can be quite cheap on the
> continent,
> but in Ohio one is likely to find only Vidal-Fleury or some other negoc
> for a pretty
> penny, I'm afraid. Actually the coop at BdV does a pretty nice one that
> really doesn't
> break the bank.
>
> How about a young, inexpensive Coteaux du Layon?
>
> -E
>
> --
> Emery Davis
> You can reply to
> by removing the well known companies

The original questioner liked icewine and was looking for cheaper sweet
wines.

I liked the Essensia last year when I had a couple of half bottles, I
remember it as having a spicy orange character. The Elysium was less to my
taste.

"sibeer" > wrote in message
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>
> I did not get the basic post and I do not know where you are at, but you
> might consider the wines of Quady Winery in California. He make two that
> might interest you. A Black Muscat Called Elysium and a Orange Muscat
called
> Eessensia. They retail for about (US) $18-20 for a 750 ml bottle. Great
> value for a very good dessert wine an readily available.
>
>
>
> "Emery Davis" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:16:03 GMT, "Ian Hayward"
> > > said:
> >
> > ] Yes, I would concur absolutely on the Brown Brothers Orange Muscat and
> > Flora, I had
> > ] some last night, but it is a trifle expensive. For a cheaper
> > alternative with a
> > ] similar "dessert wine" style, try a Muscat de Beaumes de Venise or
even
> > one of the
> > ] better quality Moscatel de Valencias.
> >
> > Muscat de Beaumes de Venise (or de Rivesaltes) can be quite cheap on the
> > continent,
> > but in Ohio one is likely to find only Vidal-Fleury or some other negoc
> > for a pretty
> > penny, I'm afraid. Actually the coop at BdV does a pretty nice one that
> > really doesn't
> > break the bank.
> >
> > How about a young, inexpensive Coteaux du Layon?
> >
> > -E
> >
> > --
> > Emery Davis
> > You can reply to
> > by removing the well known companies
>
>

The original questioner liked icewine and was looking for cheaper sweet
wines.

I liked the Essensia last year when I had a couple of half bottles, I
remember it as having a spicy orange character. The Elysium was less to my
taste.

"sibeer" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
> I did not get the basic post and I do not know where you are at, but you
> might consider the wines of Quady Winery in California. He make two that
> might interest you. A Black Muscat Called Elysium and a Orange Muscat
called
> Eessensia. They retail for about (US) $18-20 for a 750 ml bottle. Great
> value for a very good dessert wine an readily available.
>
>
>
> "Emery Davis" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:16:03 GMT, "Ian Hayward"
> > > said:
> >
> > ] Yes, I would concur absolutely on the Brown Brothers Orange Muscat and
> > Flora, I had
> > ] some last night, but it is a trifle expensive. For a cheaper
> > alternative with a
> > ] similar "dessert wine" style, try a Muscat de Beaumes de Venise or
even
> > one of the
> > ] better quality Moscatel de Valencias.
> >
> > Muscat de Beaumes de Venise (or de Rivesaltes) can be quite cheap on the
> > continent,
> > but in Ohio one is likely to find only Vidal-Fleury or some other negoc
> > for a pretty
> > penny, I'm afraid. Actually the coop at BdV does a pretty nice one that
> > really doesn't
> > break the bank.
> >
> > How about a young, inexpensive Coteaux du Layon?
> >
> > -E
> >
> > --
> > Emery Davis
> > You can reply to
> > by removing the well known companies
>
>

The original questioner liked icewine and was looking for cheaper sweet
wines.

I liked the Essensia last year when I had a couple of half bottles, I
remember it as having a spicy orange character. The Elysium was less to my
taste.

"sibeer" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
> I did not get the basic post and I do not know where you are at, but you
> might consider the wines of Quady Winery in California. He make two that
> might interest you. A Black Muscat Called Elysium and a Orange Muscat
called
> Eessensia. They retail for about (US) $18-20 for a 750 ml bottle. Great
> value for a very good dessert wine an readily available.
>
>
>
> "Emery Davis" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:16:03 GMT, "Ian Hayward"
> > > said:
> >
> > ] Yes, I would concur absolutely on the Brown Brothers Orange Muscat and
> > Flora, I had
> > ] some last night, but it is a trifle expensive. For a cheaper
> > alternative with a
> > ] similar "dessert wine" style, try a Muscat de Beaumes de Venise or
even
> > one of the
> > ] better quality Moscatel de Valencias.
> >
> > Muscat de Beaumes de Venise (or de Rivesaltes) can be quite cheap on the
> > continent,
> > but in Ohio one is likely to find only Vidal-Fleury or some other negoc
> > for a pretty
> > penny, I'm afraid. Actually the coop at BdV does a pretty nice one that
> > really doesn't
> > break the bank.
> >
> > How about a young, inexpensive Coteaux du Layon?
> >
> > -E
> >
> > --
> > Emery Davis
> > You can reply to
> > by removing the well known companies
>
>

The original questioner liked icewine and was looking for cheaper sweet
wines.

I liked the Essensia last year when I had a couple of half bottles, I
remember it as having a spicy orange character. The Elysium was less to my
taste.

"sibeer" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
> I did not get the basic post and I do not know where you are at, but you
> might consider the wines of Quady Winery in California. He make two that
> might interest you. A Black Muscat Called Elysium and a Orange Muscat
called
> Eessensia. They retail for about (US) $18-20 for a 750 ml bottle. Great
> value for a very good dessert wine an readily available.
>
>
>
> "Emery Davis" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:16:03 GMT, "Ian Hayward"
> > > said:
> >
> > ] Yes, I would concur absolutely on the Brown Brothers Orange Muscat and
> > Flora, I had
> > ] some last night, but it is a trifle expensive. For a cheaper
> > alternative with a
> > ] similar "dessert wine" style, try a Muscat de Beaumes de Venise or
even
> > one of the
> > ] better quality Moscatel de Valencias.
> >
> > Muscat de Beaumes de Venise (or de Rivesaltes) can be quite cheap on the
> > continent,
> > but in Ohio one is likely to find only Vidal-Fleury or some other negoc
> > for a pretty
> > penny, I'm afraid. Actually the coop at BdV does a pretty nice one that
> > really doesn't
> > break the bank.
> >
> > How about a young, inexpensive Coteaux du Layon?
> >
> > -E
> >
> > --
> > Emery Davis
> > You can reply to
> > by removing the well known companies
>
>

Small bottles of sweet wine are generally dessert wines and are consumed in
smaller amounts from really dried out grapes - this is why they are often
more expensive than "normal" wine as you get a smaller yield of wine from
the same amount of grapes (I'm assuming this, but it sounds right).

What you may want to do is look at sweet "normal" bottles of wine as opposed
to dessert wines. I'm starting to develop a taste for good German Riesling
at the moment - try get hold of one and see how you like the idea.

"Tanya" > wrote in message
...
> Hello,
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced wine,
> but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy several
> times a week.
>
> Thanks!
>
>

Small bottles of sweet wine are generally dessert wines and are consumed in
smaller amounts from really dried out grapes - this is why they are often
more expensive than "normal" wine as you get a smaller yield of wine from
the same amount of grapes (I'm assuming this, but it sounds right).

What you may want to do is look at sweet "normal" bottles of wine as opposed
to dessert wines. I'm starting to develop a taste for good German Riesling
at the moment - try get hold of one and see how you like the idea.

"Tanya" > wrote in message
...
> Hello,
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced wine,
> but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy several
> times a week.
>
> Thanks!
>
>

This is exactly what I'm looking for. I did find an excellent blackberry
wine that I love, but I am looking for something similar to what you
suggested. Do you have any particular one you can recommend?

"Michael Bartlett" > wrote in message
news:1094735837.352086@shiraz...
> Small bottles of sweet wine are generally dessert wines and are consumed
in
> smaller amounts from really dried out grapes - this is why they are often
> more expensive than "normal" wine as you get a smaller yield of wine from
> the same amount of grapes (I'm assuming this, but it sounds right).
>
> What you may want to do is look at sweet "normal" bottles of wine as
opposed
> to dessert wines. I'm starting to develop a taste for good German Riesling
> at the moment - try get hold of one and see how you like the idea.
>
> "Tanya" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hello,
> > Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced
wine,
> > but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy several
> > times a week.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
>
>

This is exactly what I'm looking for. I did find an excellent blackberry
wine that I love, but I am looking for something similar to what you
suggested. Do you have any particular one you can recommend?

"Michael Bartlett" > wrote in message
news:1094735837.352086@shiraz...
> Small bottles of sweet wine are generally dessert wines and are consumed
in
> smaller amounts from really dried out grapes - this is why they are often
> more expensive than "normal" wine as you get a smaller yield of wine from
> the same amount of grapes (I'm assuming this, but it sounds right).
>
> What you may want to do is look at sweet "normal" bottles of wine as
opposed
> to dessert wines. I'm starting to develop a taste for good German Riesling
> at the moment - try get hold of one and see how you like the idea.
>
> "Tanya" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hello,
> > Does anyone have any recommendations for a sweet wine? I love iced
wine,
> > but the bottles are small and are too expensive for me to enjoy several
> > times a week.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
>
>