Hey all-
I was recently offered some wines and I was wondering if the prices
seemed fair. I've looked around a bit and done some comparisons, but
that never seems to reflect the true going rate committed wine lovers
are willing to pay. Frankly, most of these are way out of my range,
but it got me curious.
Let's assume the wines have been kept in good cellaring conditions:
(prices are all in US dollars)
1. 1961 Palmer Margaux: $2600.00
2. 1966 Lafleur Pomerol $1900.00
3. 1995 Lafleur Pomerol $500.00
4. 1997 Lafite-Rothschild Paulliac $199.00

e.winemonger

A lot of the price depends on seller and provenance. For more recent vintage,
if this is a private seller, I'd discount compared to what I'd pay a retailer.
The '97 Lafite (only one remotely in my range) is certainly widely available
for less than $200.

For the others, just use winesearcher.com. And under no circumstances wire
money to DC!
Dale

Dale Williams
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A lot of the price depends on seller and provenance. For more recent vintage,
if this is a private seller, I'd discount compared to what I'd pay a retailer.
The '97 Lafite (only one remotely in my range) is certainly widely available
for less than $200.

For the others, just use winesearcher.com. And under no circumstances wire
money to DC!
Dale

Dale Williams
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"Dale Williams" wrote in message

> And under no circumstances wire money to DC!

Please explain!
Do you mean subscribing to Pro-Version of wine-searcher.com?
Please say that's not what you mean.

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No, there's a person in Washington DC who posted an incredible - I do mean
straining credibility- list of wines for sale from "his father's estate" on
some wine boards. Wanted money wired first. Now, this list (thousands of
bottles, heavy on the 1945 Cheval Blanc, the '61 Latour, DRC,. Dugat, etc )
would equal the greatest collections in the world. Then someone noticed that
some of the wines haven't been released yet!

I think winesearcher.pro is a good deal - one good score pays for the year.
Dale

Dale Williams
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No, there's a person in Washington DC who posted an incredible - I do mean
straining credibility- list of wines for sale from "his father's estate" on
some wine boards. Wanted money wired first. Now, this list (thousands of
bottles, heavy on the 1945 Cheval Blanc, the '61 Latour, DRC,. Dugat, etc )
would equal the greatest collections in the world. Then someone noticed that
some of the wines haven't been released yet!

I think winesearcher.pro is a good deal - one good score pays for the year.
Dale

Dale Williams
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amnspam (Dale Williams) wrote in message news:
> No, there's a person in Washington DC who posted an incredible - I do mean
> straining credibility- list of wines for sale from "his father's estate" on
> some wine boards. Wanted money wired first. Now, this list (thousands of
> bottles, heavy on the 1945 Cheval Blanc, the '61 Latour, DRC,. Dugat, etc )
> would equal the greatest collections in the world. Then someone noticed that
> some of the wines haven't been released yet!

The list I was looking at was absolutely astounding. But never fear:
the provenance is good, the cellaring conditions are good, and it is
all on the up-and-up. The trick is that the wines are in Europe, and
the prices were quoted to include getting them over here and
compensating for the weak dollar.

And I promise not to wire money to anyone. Except my mother. If she
ever asked.

>
> I think winesearcher.pro is a good deal - one good score pays for the year.

I looked into it further after you mentioned it. Since Winesearcher
doesn't show the retail prices in the "open" section for wines from
retailers not sponsoring the site, it seems clear that one must
subscribe to the pro version.

Which other online wine search tools do you find useful?
e.winemonger
www.winemonger.com

amnspam (Dale Williams) wrote in message news:
> No, there's a person in Washington DC who posted an incredible - I do mean
> straining credibility- list of wines for sale from "his father's estate" on
> some wine boards. Wanted money wired first. Now, this list (thousands of
> bottles, heavy on the 1945 Cheval Blanc, the '61 Latour, DRC,. Dugat, etc )
> would equal the greatest collections in the world. Then someone noticed that
> some of the wines haven't been released yet!

The list I was looking at was absolutely astounding. But never fear:
the provenance is good, the cellaring conditions are good, and it is
all on the up-and-up. The trick is that the wines are in Europe, and
the prices were quoted to include getting them over here and
compensating for the weak dollar.

And I promise not to wire money to anyone. Except my mother. If she
ever asked.

>
> I think winesearcher.pro is a good deal - one good score pays for the year.

I looked into it further after you mentioned it. Since Winesearcher
doesn't show the retail prices in the "open" section for wines from
retailers not sponsoring the site, it seems clear that one must
subscribe to the pro version.

Which other online wine search tools do you find useful?
e.winemonger
www.winemonger.com

(winemonger) wrote:

> I looked into it further after you mentioned it. Since
> Winesearcher doesn't show the retail prices in the "open"
> section for wines from retailers not sponsoring the site, it
> seems clear that one must subscribe to the pro version.

Where did you search?

<www.wine-searcher.com> in its free version lists 19 entries for
Palmer '61 (from 42 in total), from USD 504.00 to 2132.77

M.

(winemonger) wrote:

> I looked into it further after you mentioned it. Since
> Winesearcher doesn't show the retail prices in the "open"
> section for wines from retailers not sponsoring the site, it
> seems clear that one must subscribe to the pro version.

Where did you search?

<www.wine-searcher.com> in its free version lists 19 entries for
Palmer '61 (from 42 in total), from USD 504.00 to 2132.77

M.

Michael Pronay > wrote in message >...
> (winemonger) wrote:
>
> > I looked into it further after you mentioned it. Since
> > Winesearcher doesn't show the retail prices in the "open"
> > section for wines from retailers not sponsoring the site, it
> > seems clear that one must subscribe to the pro version.
>
> Where did you search?
>
> <www.wine-searcher.com> in its free version lists 19 entries for
> Palmer '61 (from 42 in total), from USD 504.00 to 2132.77
>
> M.

That was more of a general comment about Wine-searcher, not about the
three wines I mentioned in my first post. Do you use another search
site?

e.winemonger
www.winemonger.com

Michael Pronay > wrote in message >...
> (winemonger) wrote:
>
> > I looked into it further after you mentioned it. Since
> > Winesearcher doesn't show the retail prices in the "open"
> > section for wines from retailers not sponsoring the site, it
> > seems clear that one must subscribe to the pro version.
>
> Where did you search?
>
> <www.wine-searcher.com> in its free version lists 19 entries for
> Palmer '61 (from 42 in total), from USD 504.00 to 2132.77
>
> M.

That was more of a general comment about Wine-searcher, not about the
three wines I mentioned in my first post. Do you use another search
site?

e.winemonger
www.winemonger.com

(winemonger) wrote:

> Do you use another search site?

No.

M.

(winemonger) wrote:

> Do you use another search site?

No.

M.