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With lemon sole, broccoli rabe, and a winter vegetable salad
(celeriac, other root veggies, feta, etc) the 2007 Lafouge “Les Meix Chavaux” Meursault. Sweet Bosc pear fruit, orange peel, light hazelnutty notes. Nice mid-bodied white Burg, balanced acidity, stony notes on the finish. A-/B+ I was really happy to get home Friday, and Betsy greeted me with some leftover ama-ebi. I opened a half bottle the 2007 Daniel Dampt Chablis. I've been a fan of the Dampt Cote de Lechet, but I think this is my first time with the Chablis AC. Clean, but ultimately boring. Lean green apple fruit, tart, rather short. B-/C+ Dinner was roast chicken, with a fennel/cabbage salad and an assortment of leftover vegetables. I opened the 1979 Ch. du Tertre (Margaux). This wine has been quite dependable for a long time- I had in the mid-90s and quite liked, and then restocked a few years ago when some friends described it as the surprise of a 79 horizontal. I got several at auction, was quite pleased, then restocked on Winebid. This was a WB bottle, good fill but cork looked pretty saturated - I used an Ah So. Maybe a bit more advanced than pristine bottles, but still a solid and classic claret. Smooth cassis fruit with mature aromas of cigarbox and forest floor. My initial criticism was maybe drying out a little on finish, but I no longer found that when I revisited a while later (after watching an episode of "Foyle's Wat."). This bottle is certainly a drink up, but I've had others that had plenty of life left. B+ Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent*wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't*drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no*promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.** |
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On Feb 20, 4:45*pm, DaleW > wrote:
> With lemon sole, broccoli rabe, and a winter vegetable salad > (celeriac, other root veggies, feta, etc) the 2007 Lafouge “Les Meix > Chavaux” Meursault. Sweet Bosc pear fruit, orange peel, light > hazelnutty notes. Nice mid-bodied white Burg, balanced acidity, stony > notes on the finish. A-/B+ > > I was really happy to get home Friday, and Betsy greeted me with some > leftover ama-ebi. I opened a half bottle the 2007 Daniel Dampt > Chablis. I've been a fan of the Dampt Cote de Lechet, but I think this > is my first time with the Chablis AC. Clean, but ultimately boring. > Lean green apple fruit, tart, rather short. B-/C+ > > Dinner was roast chicken, with a fennel/cabbage salad and an > assortment of leftover vegetables. I opened the 1979 Ch. du Tertre > (Margaux). *This wine has been quite dependable for a long time- I had > in the mid-90s and quite liked, and then restocked a few years ago > when some friends described it as the surprise of a 79 horizontal. I > got several at auction, was quite pleased, then restocked on Winebid. > This was a WB bottle, good fill but cork looked pretty saturated - I > used an Ah So. Maybe a bit more advanced than pristine bottles, but > still a solid and classic claret. Smooth cassis fruit with mature > aromas of cigarbox and forest floor. My initial criticism was maybe > drying out a little on finish, but I no longer found that when I > revisited a while later (after watching an episode of "Foyle's > Wat."). > This bottle is certainly a drink up, but I've had others that had > plenty of life left. B+ > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an > excellent*wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I > wouldn't*drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I > offer no*promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of > consistency.** I apologize for the double post. I've removed the dupe from Google groups, but think it'll still show on most reader. Sorry! |
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On 2010-02-20 13:45:27 -0800, DaleW > said:
> I opened the 1979 Ch. du Tertre > (Margaux). This wine has been quite dependable for a long time- I had > in the mid-90s and quite liked, and then restocked a few years ago > when some friends described it as the surprise of a 79 horizontal. I > got several at auction, was quite pleased, then restocked on Winebid. > This was a WB bottle, good fill but cork looked pretty saturated - I > used an Ah So. Maybe a bit more advanced than pristine bottles, but > still a solid and classic claret. Smooth cassis fruit with mature > aromas of cigarbox and forest floor. My initial criticism was maybe > drying out a little on finish, but I no longer found that when I > revisited a while later > This bottle is certainly a drink up, but I've had others that had > plenty of life left. B+ I am amazed at the longevety... When the '79s came out they were billed as "the ones to drink while you are waiting for the '78s to mature." I found that true - my '79 Ch. Cheval Blanc barely made it into the mid '90s when I felt it was drink up time. |
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On Feb 20, 7:26*pm, Ronin > wrote:
> On 2010-02-20 13:45:27 -0800, DaleW > said: > > > *I opened the 1979 Ch. du Tertre > > (Margaux). *This wine has been quite dependable for a long time- I had > > in the mid-90s and quite liked, and then restocked a few years ago > > when some friends described it as the surprise of a 79 horizontal. I > > got several at auction, was quite pleased, then restocked on Winebid. > > This was a WB bottle, good fill but cork looked pretty saturated - I > > used an Ah So. Maybe a bit more advanced than pristine bottles, but > > still a solid and classic claret. Smooth cassis fruit with mature > > aromas of cigarbox and forest floor. My initial criticism was maybe > > drying out a little on finish, but I no longer found that when I > > revisited a while later > > This bottle is certainly a drink up, but I've had others that had > > plenty of life left. B+ > > I am amazed at the longevety... *When the '79s came out they were > billed as "the ones to drink while you are waiting for the '78s to > mature." *I found that true - my '79 Ch. Cheval Blanc barely made it > into the mid '90s when I felt it was drink up time. I actually have a bottle of the 79 Cheval Blanc, keep meaning to open it. It was part of a mixed lot a few years ago. I hope it has lasted a bit better than yours (but I got enough satisfaction from other bottles for what I paid for lot it won't upset me if it's past it). I have liked several 1979s, long after many have predicted their demise. Someone once told me it's the last Bordeaux vintage that seemed to age more on its acids than its tannins. There are 3 factors that seem to come to mind: 1) it's not a very consistent vintage. There are (to my tastes) good wines, not so good wines, tired wines, and vibrant wines. The Lafite seems a little tired, LLC so-so, and Mouton iffy. Pichon Lalande is lovely, and Pichon Baron tired and dull. Yet lesser wines like du Tertre, Giscours, and DDC still have life. Of course, at this point, it's as much about particular bottles as wines. 2) it's a somewhat divisive vintage. Many discount it completely. On a couple of threads on other fora I've noticed a pattern. The camp who thinks 79 was a so-so vintage that is past it tend (and I'm only noting based on a limited sample) other than the Lafleur* to be people who tend to like big wines, love modern Pavie and Pontet Canet, etc. Those that think 1979 is underrated tend to be people who don't care so much for modern powerhouses, who use the word "claret" in a positive sense, and like Burgundy. ![]() I have friends whose taste I respect in both camps. I'm not trying to put people into narrow camps, but I do think '79 is not going to appeal to people who love 2003 for instance. *Lafleur is often cited by those who don't like '79 as the exception. It's an impressive wine, in a very extracted style. I like it, but don't love it. and certainly would rather have a 10-20 mixed bottles of DDC, du Tertre, Pichon Lalande, etc than 1 $1000+ bottle of Lafleur! |
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