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Interested in food, recipes or cooking??? I have found something that is brand new and unique... Please check out this link... http://www.nationaldishes.com/main.html It is filled with all the national dishes of the world in alphabetical order. You get the recipe to recreate them at home! And the history behind why the dish has become the national dish. Amazing guide! They even offer a free sample! Brilliant! |
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"Mike Tommasi" wrote .................
> >I love it when people speak of themselves in the 3rd person... > > Ailly mw I was stuck at the idea of city dishes, you mean there is a > national dish for all of France, or Italy, or Germany? OK maybe Luxembourg > I understand, maybe San Marino, Liechtenstein, Andorra, Vatican, Campione > and Ceuta, but one national dish for Canada? > Hmmm - never saw the original post (spam filtered?) I wonder what could constitute the national dish for New Zealand? I mean, I have only been here for a tad over 60 years, and I have no idea what it could be. Going back a couple hundred years into Polynesian times, perhaps fish - and kumara (sweet potato)! That's it - smoked fish and kumara pie - with a Speight's! (Go on - Google it!) -- st.helier |
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st.helier wrote on Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:07:33 +1200:
> "Mike Tommasi" wrote ................. >> >> I love it when people speak of themselves in the 3rd >> person... >> >> Ailly mw I was stuck at the idea of city dishes, you mean >> there is a national dish for all of France, or Italy, or >> Germany? OK maybe Luxembourg I understand, maybe San Marino, >> Liechtenstein, Andorra, Vatican, Campione and Ceuta, but one national >> dish for Canada? >> > Hmmm - never saw the original post (spam filtered?) > I wonder what could constitute the national dish for New > Zealand? > I mean, I have only been here for a tad over 60 years, and I > have no idea what it could be. > Going back a couple hundred years into Polynesian times, > perhaps fish - and kumara (sweet potato)! > That's it - smoked fish and kumara pie - with a Speight's! > (Go on - Google it!) It would be hard to believe the Maori were teetotalers but I have no idea what alcoholic beverages they favored. Can you enlighten me? Didn't some Polynesians have the disgusting sounding method of chewing on starches, spitting it out and letting the mess ferment? -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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James Silverton wrote:
> > It would be hard to believe the Maori were teetotalers but I have no > idea what alcoholic beverages they favored. Can you enlighten me? Heh. Apparently, they /were/ teetotalers. I got curious, and in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine....81ori_cuisine it says: "Māori were one of the few people to have no form of alcoholic beverage." > Didn't > some Polynesians have the disgusting sounding method of chewing on > starches, spitting it out and letting the mess ferment? I don't know about Polynesians, but originally, sake was produced in this manner. -- You'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone. -- Whoever bans a book, shall be banished. Whoever burns a book, shall burn. |
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"st.helier" > wrote in message
... > "Mike Tommasi" wrote ................. >> >>I love it when people speak of themselves in the 3rd person... >> >> Ailly mw I was stuck at the idea of city dishes, you mean there is a >> national dish for all of France, or Italy, or Germany? OK maybe >> Luxembourg I understand, maybe San Marino, Liechtenstein, Andorra, >> Vatican, Campione and Ceuta, but one national dish for Canada? >> > > > Hmmm - never saw the original post (spam filtered?) > > I wonder what could constitute the national dish for New Zealand? > > I mean, I have only been here for a tad over 60 years, and I have no idea > what it could be. > > Going back a couple hundred years into Polynesian times, perhaps fish - > and kumara (sweet potato)! > > That's it - smoked fish and kumara pie - with a Speight's! (Go on - > Google it!) > > -- > > st.helier Kooked Kiwi with the Kumara, sir? A vintage palm toddy? Cheers! Martin |
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![]() "James Silverton" < > > It would be hard to believe the Maori were teetotalers but I have no idea > what alcoholic beverages they favored. Can you enlighten me? Didn't some > Polynesians have the disgusting sounding method of chewing on starches, > spitting it out and letting the mess ferment? Historical sources are unequivocal that Polynesians, like most of the Indians of America north of Mexico, were without alcoholic beverages. While liquor was first brought to Polynesians by European voyagers in the middle and late eighteenth century, in all areas of Polynesia ***except New Zealand*** kava drinking was the only "mode of intoxication" NOTE: Of course, Kava is non-alcoholic - it is sedating and is primarily consumed to relax without disrupting mental clarity - and from personal experience, numbs the tongue. -- st.helier |
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On 2010-07-23 11:18:38 -0700, stephenkahn > said:
And here I thought Sophia Loren was the national dish of Italy... Jim |
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"Ronin" > wrote in message
... > On 2010-07-23 11:18:38 -0700, stephenkahn > said: > > > And here I thought Sophia Loren was the national dish of Italy... > > Jim > There is a misconception I've heard that kangaroo is a national dish in Australia - not so. It's served in tourist restaurants and some high end places - almost as a novelty item. But nobody I know eats it and I believe most of the local consumption goes to the dogs ie for pet food. Slaughtered in non too humane or hygienic surrounds it also carries a few parasites. I ate some years ago as kangaroo tail soup and as steak. Dark stringy and gamey. Recommended wine - cask (bag in a box). The most common dish in Noosa restaurants is slow cooked pork belly. Most consumed wine in Oz - New Zealand sauvignon blanc. Cheers! Martin. |
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"Martin Field" wrote ......
> > Most consumed wine in Oz - New Zealand sauvignon blanc. > Hi Martin, is this a confirmed fact? I had heard whisperings to this effect. I would have thought most Australians would rather choke on stringy kangaroo tails rather than make this admission!!!!! Cheers st,helier |
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![]() "st.helier" > wrote in message ... > "Martin Field" wrote ...... >> >> Most consumed wine in Oz - New Zealand sauvignon blanc. >> > > > Hi Martin, is this a confirmed fact? > > I had heard whisperings to this effect. > > I would have thought most Australians would rather choke on stringy > kangaroo tails rather than make this admission!!!!! > > Cheers > > st,helier Hi St H - as usual I was writing with tongue only slightly in cheek, But a Queensland wine merchant assures me that NZ SB accounts for 8 out of every ten bottles of wine of any type bought on the Sunshine Coast (south east Queensland) and see http://theshout.com.au/2010/07/14/ar...che/DCEFIMFILY. Cheers! Martin |
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:28:08 +1000, "Martin Field"
> wrote: >"Ronin" > wrote in message .. . >> On 2010-07-23 11:18:38 -0700, stephenkahn > said: >> >> >> And here I thought Sophia Loren was the national dish of Italy... >> >> Jim >> >There is a misconception I've heard that kangaroo is a national dish in >Australia - not so. It's served in tourist restaurants and some high end >places - almost as a novelty item. But nobody I know eats it and I believe >most of the local consumption goes to the dogs ie for pet food. > >Slaughtered in non too humane or hygienic surrounds it also carries a few >parasites. > >I ate some years ago as kangaroo tail soup and as steak. Dark stringy and >gamey. Recommended wine - cask (bag in a box). > >The most common dish in Noosa restaurants is slow cooked pork belly. Most >consumed wine in Oz - New Zealand sauvignon blanc. > >Cheers! > >Martin. I have had Kangaroo, and rather enjoyed it grilled. Queensland is a bit warm for wine drinking. I would think the idea of a really dense Syrah(shiras excuse me) on a Queensland evening would be overpowering. My favorite Queensland libation would have to be cold beer and a lager or pilsner at that. Not quite ale country. Joseph Coulter J&B Journeys www.josephcoulter.com 904 685 5317 |
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> > wrote:
> >>"Ronin" > wrote in message . .. >>> On 2010-07-23 11:18:38 -0700, stephenkahn > said: >>> >>> >>> And here I thought Sophia Loren was the national dish of Italy... >>> >>> Jim >>> >>There is a misconception I've heard that kangaroo is a national dish in >>Australia - not so. It's served in tourist restaurants and some high end >>places - almost as a novelty item. But nobody I know eats it and I >>believe >>most of the local consumption goes to the dogs ie for pet food. >> >>Slaughtered in non too humane or hygienic surrounds it also carries a few >>parasites. >> >>I ate some years ago as kangaroo tail soup and as steak. Dark stringy and >>gamey. Recommended wine - cask (bag in a box). >> >>The most common dish in Noosa restaurants is slow cooked pork belly. Most >>consumed wine in Oz - New Zealand sauvignon blanc. >> >>Cheers! >> >>Martin. > I have had Kangaroo, and rather enjoyed it grilled. Queensland is a > bit warm for wine drinking. I would think the idea of a really dense > Syrah(shiras excuse me) on a Queensland evening would be overpowering. > My favorite Queensland libation would have to be cold beer and a lager > or pilsner at that. Not quite ale country. > Joseph Coulter > J&B Journeys > www.josephcoulter.com > > 904 685 5317 You're right about heavy reds being overpowering in this climate - but only in the warmer weather - which is about half the year. And yes we go through a fair amount of lager in summer. In winter (now) it gets down to a chilly 11C at night so I try to catch up on the reds I've missed out on in the warmer months. When we do drink reds in summer I put them in the fridge for half an hour before opening. Cheers! Martin |
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st.helier wrote on Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:31:43 +1200:
> "James Silverton" < >> >> It would be hard to believe the Maori were teetotalers but I have no >> idea what alcoholic beverages they favored. Can you >> enlighten me? Didn't some Polynesians have the disgusting >> sounding method of chewing on starches, spitting it out and >> letting the mess ferment? > Historical sources are unequivocal that Polynesians, like most > of the Indians of America north of Mexico, were without > alcoholic beverages. Poor deprived people! I wonder if the delight in warfare of the Maori, Hawaians and North American Indians was a substitute? However, the Aztecs who might have had alcohol, were fierce enough. It must have been a pretty miserable society when, if you were not a high Aztec aristocrat, you were not even allowed cocoa! > While liquor was first brought to Polynesians by European > voyagers in the middle and late eighteenth century, in all > areas of Polynesia ***except New Zealand*** kava drinking was the only > "mode of intoxication" > NOTE: Of course, Kava is non-alcoholic - it is sedating and is > primarily consumed to relax without disrupting mental clarity - and > from personal experience, numbs the tongue. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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