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![]() "aesthete8" > wrote in message ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ygreen/20100...bGVkY nJlYQ-- Lucky you in the States if the mark-up on wines is "only" 2.5 times the price they bought it! In France, Germany and the Benelux countries, this would almost be a bargain, as 3 is the standard (the French call it "la triplette") and 4 is not uncommon. Yves |
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:12:42 +0200, Mike Tommasi wrote:
> On 10/09/2010 7:04, Yves wrote: >> > wrote in message >> ... >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ygreen/20100907/ sc_ygreen/25thingschefsnevertellyou;_ylt=ArPV0p4SPUjrIaRNy5P NOQis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTQxNmI2bDY1BGFzc2V0A3lncmVlbi8 yMDEwMDkwNy8yNXRoaW5nc2NoZWZzbmV2ZXJ0ZWxseW91BGNjb 2RlA21vc3Rwb3B1bGFyBGNwb3MDOARwb3MDNQRwdANob21lX2N va2UEc2VjA3luX2hlYWRsaW5lX2xpc3QEc2xrA3JlY3ljbGVkY nJlYQ-- >> >> Lucky you in the States if the mark-up on wines is "only" 2.5 times the >> price they bought it! >> >> In France, Germany and the Benelux countries, this would almost be a >> bargain, as 3 is the standard (the French call it "la triplette") and 4 >> is not uncommon. > > My thoughts exactly. > > In Spain things are more reasonable, even in high-end restaurants. Once > had Grange des Peres white (!) at Bulli for 65‚¬, that's less than 2x. > But then again, in Spain they don't drink nearly as much wine as in > France or Italy. How does one spell G - R - E - E - D ? Godzilla |
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![]() "Henry" > skrev i melding .. . >> Lucky you in the States if the mark-up on wines is "only" 2.5 times the >> price they bought it! >> >> In France, Germany and the Benelux countries, this would almost be a >> bargain, as 3 is the standard (the French call it "la triplette") and 4 >> is >> not uncommon. > > And how about a little sympathy for those in places with state-monopoly > distribution, where the exact disparity between price-at-retail and > price-in-restaurant is completely blatant and exasperating? > Uh? It is mostly 3x in Sweden and in Norway... The mark-up pays for storage (facilities, capital cost), glasses, music, dish-washing, service, tables, interior maintenance, advertisements and so on. Furthermore, service is included in the prices here whereas in the US I understand you are expected to tip 15-20%? Anders |
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Mike Tommasi wrote:
<snip> > > If you tip 20% in a really good restaurant they practically run after > you like a thief... for some reason, the better the restaurant, the > higher the tip gets, so you are expected to pay 25% at a AAA 5 star... > > I always thought that the tip was calculated on the food only. > > Anyhow, the whole business about tipping in the US is insane. Not sure > why the IRS lets this nonsense go on... > In the US it's customary to tip on the total food bill minus any taxes. Do waiters/waitresses in high priced restaurants work any harder than waiters/waitresses in hamburger joints? I think not. For good service on a $10 meal I'll leave a 25% tip. JMHO Dick in the USA |
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![]() "dickr2" > skrev i melding ... > In the US it's customary to tip on the total food bill minus any taxes. > Do waiters/waitresses in high priced restaurants work any harder than > waiters/waitresses in hamburger joints? I think not. For good service > on a $10 meal I'll leave a 25% tip. > Hmm, a US wine-mark-up of 2.5x..., then 20-25%tip means a total of 3 to 3.2x, equal to the usual European mark-up... Ah, well, you don't drink wine in US hamburger places, do you? No, not in Scandinavia either, but I've had burgers with wine in Switzerland :-) Anders |
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Anders Tørneskog wrote:
> "dickr2" > skrev i melding > ... > >>In the US it's customary to tip on the total food bill minus any taxes. >>Do waiters/waitresses in high priced restaurants work any harder than >>waiters/waitresses in hamburger joints? I think not. For good service >>on a $10 meal I'll leave a 25% tip. >> > Hmm, a US wine-mark-up of 2.5x..., then 20-25%tip means a total of 3 to > 3.2x, equal to the usual European mark-up... Ah, well, you don't drink wine > in US hamburger places, do you? No, not in Scandinavia either, but I've had > burgers with wine in Switzerland :-) > Hi Anders, I should have clarified that when I referred to hamburger joints I wasn't thinking of the fast food chains like MacDonalds. We often go to a local restaurant where I know the owner and the staff and they serve good food! If I order a hamburger I'll usually order a glass of "house red", or a glass of Guinness. Still, the bill will be $15 and my tip will be 25%. I don't go to "classy" overpriced restaurants. Skol! Dick |
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"dickr2" > a écrit dans le message de
... > Anders Tørneskog wrote: >> "dickr2" > skrev i melding >> ... >> >>>In the US it's customary to tip on the total food bill minus any taxes. >>>Do waiters/waitresses in high priced restaurants work any harder than >>>waiters/waitresses in hamburger joints? I think not. For good service >>>on a $10 meal I'll leave a 25% tip. >>> >> Hmm, a US wine-mark-up of 2.5x..., then 20-25%tip means a total of 3 to >> 3.2x, equal to the usual European mark-up... Ah, well, you don't drink >> wine in US hamburger places, do you? No, not in Scandinavia either, but >> I've had burgers with wine in Switzerland :-) >> > Hi Anders, > I should have clarified that when I referred to hamburger joints I wasn't > thinking of the fast food chains like MacDonalds. We often go to a local > restaurant where I know the owner and the staff and they > serve good food! If I order a hamburger I'll usually order a glass of > "house red", or a glass of Guinness. Still, the bill will be $15 and my > tip > will be 25%. I don't go to "classy" overpriced restaurants. > > Skol! > Dick Try this place : 1 for 1.1, an NO tip http://restaurantsdumidi.midiblogs.c...in-et-des.html Michel |
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