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Lucky you in the States if the mark-up on wines is "only" 2.5 times the
price they bought it!

In France, Germany and the Benelux countries, this would almost be a
bargain, as 3 is the standard (the French call it "la triplette") and 4 is
not uncommon.

Yves

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:12:42 +0200, Mike Tommasi wrote:

> On 10/09/2010 7:04, Yves wrote:
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>> Lucky you in the States if the mark-up on wines is "only" 2.5 times the
>> price they bought it!
>>
>> In France, Germany and the Benelux countries, this would almost be a
>> bargain, as 3 is the standard (the French call it "la triplette") and 4
>> is not uncommon.
>
> My thoughts exactly.
>
> In Spain things are more reasonable, even in high-end restaurants. Once
> had Grange des Peres white (!) at Bulli for 65‚¬, that's less than 2x.
> But then again, in Spain they don't drink nearly as much wine as in
> France or Italy.

How does one spell G - R - E - E - D ?

Godzilla

"Henry" > skrev i melding
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>> Lucky you in the States if the mark-up on wines is "only" 2.5 times the
>> price they bought it!
>>
>> In France, Germany and the Benelux countries, this would almost be a
>> bargain, as 3 is the standard (the French call it "la triplette") and 4
>> is
>> not uncommon.
>
> And how about a little sympathy for those in places with state-monopoly
> distribution, where the exact disparity between price-at-retail and
> price-in-restaurant is completely blatant and exasperating?
>
Uh? It is mostly 3x in Sweden and in Norway... The mark-up pays for
storage (facilities, capital cost), glasses, music, dish-washing, service,
tables, interior maintenance, advertisements and so on.
Furthermore, service is included in the prices here whereas in the US I
understand you are expected to tip 15-20%?
Anders

Mike Tommasi wrote:
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>
> If you tip 20% in a really good restaurant they practically run after
> you like a thief... for some reason, the better the restaurant, the
> higher the tip gets, so you are expected to pay 25% at a AAA 5 star...
>
> I always thought that the tip was calculated on the food only.
>
> Anyhow, the whole business about tipping in the US is insane. Not sure
> why the IRS lets this nonsense go on...
>
In the US it's customary to tip on the total food bill minus any taxes.
Do waiters/waitresses in high priced restaurants work any harder than
waiters/waitresses in hamburger joints? I think not. For good service
on a $10 meal I'll leave a 25% tip.

JMHO
Dick in the USA

"dickr2" > skrev i melding
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> In the US it's customary to tip on the total food bill minus any taxes.
> Do waiters/waitresses in high priced restaurants work any harder than
> waiters/waitresses in hamburger joints? I think not. For good service
> on a $10 meal I'll leave a 25% tip.
>
Hmm, a US wine-mark-up of 2.5x..., then 20-25%tip means a total of 3 to
3.2x, equal to the usual European mark-up... Ah, well, you don't drink wine
in US hamburger places, do you? No, not in Scandinavia either, but I've had
burgers with wine in Switzerland :-)

Anders

Anders Tørneskog wrote:
> "dickr2" > skrev i melding
> ...
>
>>In the US it's customary to tip on the total food bill minus any taxes.
>>Do waiters/waitresses in high priced restaurants work any harder than
>>waiters/waitresses in hamburger joints? I think not. For good service
>>on a $10 meal I'll leave a 25% tip.
>>
> Hmm, a US wine-mark-up of 2.5x..., then 20-25%tip means a total of 3 to
> 3.2x, equal to the usual European mark-up... Ah, well, you don't drink wine
> in US hamburger places, do you? No, not in Scandinavia either, but I've had
> burgers with wine in Switzerland :-)
>
Hi Anders,
I should have clarified that when I referred to hamburger joints I wasn't
thinking of the fast food chains like MacDonalds. We often go to a local
restaurant where I know the owner and the staff and they
serve good food! If I order a hamburger I'll usually order a glass of
"house red", or a glass of Guinness. Still, the bill will be $15 and my tip
will be 25%. I don't go to "classy" overpriced restaurants.

Skol!
Dick

"dickr2" > a écrit dans le message de
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> Anders Tørneskog wrote:
>> "dickr2" > skrev i melding
>> ...
>>
>>>In the US it's customary to tip on the total food bill minus any taxes.
>>>Do waiters/waitresses in high priced restaurants work any harder than
>>>waiters/waitresses in hamburger joints? I think not. For good service
>>>on a $10 meal I'll leave a 25% tip.
>>>
>> Hmm, a US wine-mark-up of 2.5x..., then 20-25%tip means a total of 3 to
>> 3.2x, equal to the usual European mark-up... Ah, well, you don't drink
>> wine in US hamburger places, do you? No, not in Scandinavia either, but
>> I've had burgers with wine in Switzerland :-)
>>
> Hi Anders,
> I should have clarified that when I referred to hamburger joints I wasn't
> thinking of the fast food chains like MacDonalds. We often go to a local
> restaurant where I know the owner and the staff and they
> serve good food! If I order a hamburger I'll usually order a glass of
> "house red", or a glass of Guinness. Still, the bill will be $15 and my
> tip
> will be 25%. I don't go to "classy" overpriced restaurants.
>
> Skol!
> Dick

Try this place : 1 for 1.1, an NO tip

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Michel