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I am trying to determine the best way to store red wine.
I did buy a 6 bottle Cusinart wine cooler with thermoelectric cooler and it broke after a few months. Lost the receipt so I was unable to get it replaced under warranty. After reading many reviews, it became appearant regardless of the manufacturer that ALL thermoelectric wine coolers fail within a year so I don't see the point in buying another one. I typically hold around 6 bottles at a time and drink them within several months. Recently I bought a case because I got a really good deal on it. If I drink the wine within several months does it even matter what the storage conditions are like? I have read about using a mini fridge with a separate temperature controller which I would do but heard that the humidity is too low which can dry out the cork and the vibration from the compressor hurts the wine (really?) Again if I am just storing the wine for a few months is that long enough for the low humidity and vibration to be more of a problem than temperature variations? Also read about lining a closet with insulation to reduce temperature variations. Right now I keep the wine in the garage and the temperature can vary from 40 to 100 degrees although most of the time it is between 60 and 80. If I keep it in the house then probably 65 to 80. Thanks |
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When you are holding for a few months temperatures don't matter much if you
are able to keep them below 65F, say. Even 70 is acceptable, but not ideal. 75-80 probably not good at all :-) When we are talking years or decades 50F is an optimum, 40 will keep wines for a very long time. But even then, in my cellar, the yearly fluctuation is 41 to 66 and I've kept bottles for 20 years without problems. Anders "Joel" > skrev i melding ... >I am trying to determine the best way to store red wine. > I did buy a 6 bottle Cusinart wine cooler with thermoelectric cooler > and it broke after a few months. > Lost the receipt so I was unable to get it replaced under warranty. > After reading many reviews, it became appearant regardless of the > manufacturer that ALL thermoelectric wine coolers fail within a year > so I don't see the point in buying another one. > > I typically hold around 6 bottles at a time and drink them within > several months. > Recently I bought a case because I got a really good deal on it. > If I drink the wine within several months does it even matter what the > storage conditions are like? > I have read about using a mini fridge with a separate temperature > controller which I would do but heard that the humidity is too low > which can dry out the cork and the vibration from the compressor hurts > the wine (really?) > Again if I am just storing the wine for a few months is that long > enough for the low humidity and vibration to be more of a problem than > temperature variations? > Also read about lining a closet with insulation to reduce temperature > variations. > Right now I keep the wine in the garage and the temperature can vary > from 40 to 100 degrees although most of the time it is between 60 and > 80. If I keep it in the house then probably 65 to 80. > > Thanks |
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On Oct 13, 7:29*am, "Anders Tørneskog" >
wrote: > When you are holding for a few months temperatures don't matter much if you > are able to keep them below 65F, say. *Even 70 is acceptable, but not ideal. > 75-80 probably not good at all :-) > When we are talking years or decades 50F is an optimum, 40 will keep wines > for a very long time. *But even then, in my cellar, the yearly fluctuation > is 41 to 66 and I've kept bottles for 20 years without problems. > Anders > > "Joel" > skrev i ... > > > > >I am trying to determine the best way to store red wine. > > I did buy a 6 bottle Cusinart wine cooler with thermoelectric cooler > > and it broke after a few months. > > Lost the receipt so I was unable to get it replaced under warranty. > > After reading many reviews, it became appearant regardless of the > > manufacturer that ALL thermoelectric wine coolers fail within a year > > so I don't see the point in buying another one. > > > I typically hold around 6 bottles at a time and drink them within > > several months. > > Recently I bought a case because I got a really good deal on it. > > If I drink the wine within several months does it even matter what the > > storage conditions are like? > > I have read about using a mini fridge with a separate temperature > > controller which I would do but heard that the humidity is too low > > which can dry out the cork and the vibration from the compressor hurts > > the wine (really?) > > Again if I am just storing the wine for a few months is that long > > enough for the low humidity and vibration to be more of a problem than > > temperature variations? > > Also read about lining a closet with insulation to reduce temperature > > variations. > > Right now I keep the wine in the garage and the temperature can vary > > from 40 to 100 degrees although most of the time it is between 60 and > > 80. If I keep it in the house then probably 65 to 80. > > > Thanks- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I beleive Dale and Mark did a little personal test on time/temp storage and concluded no big deal at room temp for short amounts of time. |
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On Oct 13, 9:49*am, "Bi!!" > wrote:
> On Oct 13, 7:29*am, "Anders Tørneskog" > > wrote: > > > > > > > When you are holding for a few months temperatures don't matter much if you > > are able to keep them below 65F, say. *Even 70 is acceptable, but not ideal. > > 75-80 probably not good at all :-) > > When we are talking years or decades 50F is an optimum, 40 will keep wines > > for a very long time. *But even then, in my cellar, the yearly fluctuation > > is 41 to 66 and I've kept bottles for 20 years without problems. > > Anders > > > "Joel" > skrev i ... > > > >I am trying to determine the best way to store red wine. > > > I did buy a 6 bottle Cusinart wine cooler with thermoelectric cooler > > > and it broke after a few months. > > > Lost the receipt so I was unable to get it replaced under warranty. > > > After reading many reviews, it became appearant regardless of the > > > manufacturer that ALL thermoelectric wine coolers fail within a year > > > so I don't see the point in buying another one. > > > > I typically hold around 6 bottles at a time and drink them within > > > several months. > > > Recently I bought a case because I got a really good deal on it. > > > If I drink the wine within several months does it even matter what the > > > storage conditions are like? > > > I have read about using a mini fridge with a separate temperature > > > controller which I would do but heard that the humidity is too low > > > which can dry out the cork and the vibration from the compressor hurts > > > the wine (really?) > > > Again if I am just storing the wine for a few months is that long > > > enough for the low humidity and vibration to be more of a problem than > > > temperature variations? > > > Also read about lining a closet with insulation to reduce temperature > > > variations. > > > Right now I keep the wine in the garage and the temperature can vary > > > from 40 to 100 degrees although most of the time it is between 60 and > > > 80. If I keep it in the house then probably 65 to 80. > > > > Thanks- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I beleive Dale and Mark did a little personal test on time/temp > storage and concluded no big deal at room temp for short amounts of > time. We had some mixed results, but over a bit longer span. Personally, I think it's unlikely that 75 degrees for 3-4 months will do any noticable damage to most red wines (assuming not a natural/no added sulphur cuvee). But over 80 really dramatically increases chances of wine being cooked, AND of expansion causing leakage/oxygen ingress. In OP's case, for 6 bottles there's no sense in any kind of cooling system. If house really pushes 80, I'd opt for fridge. But in general I'd just look for coolest/stablest spot- floor of a closet or whatever, and place blanket over them for insulation. The garage would probably be fine for 8 months of the year if temps range from 40 to 100. |
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