Dear all,

while strolling through the wine department in a major supermarket, I
noticed a wooden case containing "Historical XIXth Century wine", sold for a
whopping 169,00 EUR/bottle.

It was a non-vintage "vin de pays" (!), with a label resembling Chteau
Palmer's bottlings. In fact, it is "made by Palmer".

I found out that Palmer had decided to produce a few hundred cases of wines
made like in the 19th century... by adding 13% Syrah (Hermitage...) to the
usual Cab/Merlot blend. The grapes were apparently from the 2004 vintage.

While this is most certainly a curiosity for wealthy trophy hunters, I just
wanted to ask if any of you ever tasted this wine and what your impressions
were, especially vs. a "regular" Ch. Palmer?

Regards

Yves

Yves wrote on Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:48:03 +0100:

> while strolling through the wine department in a major
> supermarket, I noticed a wooden case containing "Historical
> XIXth Century wine", sold for a whopping 169,00 EUR/bottle.

> It was a non-vintage "vin de pays" (!), with a label
> resembling Chteau Palmer's bottlings. In fact, it is "made by
> Palmer".

> I found out that Palmer had decided to produce a few hundred
> cases of wines made like in the 19th century... by adding 13% Syrah
> (Hermitage...) to the usual Cab/Merlot blend. The grapes
> were apparently from the 2004 vintage.

Time travel perhaps? Otherwise, it's a massive fraud :-)

I wish I could compare a 19th century wine in good condition with a
21st. I don't suppose any 20th century wines are being preserved in
cryo-storage for future generations are they?


> While this is most certainly a curiosity for wealthy trophy
> hunters, I just wanted to ask if any of you ever tasted this
> wine and what your impressions were, especially vs. a
> "regular" Ch. Palmer?

> Regards



--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On 11/19/10 3:48 AM, Yves wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> while strolling through the wine department in a major supermarket, I
> noticed a wooden case containing "Historical XIXth Century wine", sold for a
> whopping 169,00 EUR/bottle.
>
> It was a non-vintage "vin de pays" (!), with a label resembling Chteau
> Palmer's bottlings. In fact, it is "made by Palmer".
>
> I found out that Palmer had decided to produce a few hundred cases of wines
> made like in the 19th century... by adding 13% Syrah (Hermitage...) to the
> usual Cab/Merlot blend. The grapes were apparently from the 2004 vintage.
>
> While this is most certainly a curiosity for wealthy trophy hunters, I just
> wanted to ask if any of you ever tasted this wine and what your impressions
> were, especially vs. a "regular" Ch. Palmer?

Yves,
I have not had the wine in question, but others have. See, for example:

http://wineberserkers.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=34325

Mark Lipton

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On 11/19/10 10:20 AM, Mark Lipton wrote:

> Yves,
> I have not had the wine in question, but others have. See, for example:
>
> http://wineberserkers.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=34325

There are also plenty of notes on it on Cellartracker:

http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=470097

Mark Lipton

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On Nov 19, 10:22*am, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> On 11/19/10 10:20 AM, Mark Lipton wrote:
>
> > Yves,
> > * I have not had the wine in question, but others have. *See, for example:
>
> >http://wineberserkers.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=34325
>
> There are also plenty of notes on it on Cellartracker:
>
> http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=470097
>
> Mark Lipton
>
> --
> alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net

there's even a brief note on it here,
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...781831f96f3d8b

I think the one I had was L2004 (it's NV as the Syrah makes it VdT), I
think there's been a newer release

DaleW wrote:

> there's even a brief note on it here,
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...781831f96f3d8b
>
> I think the one I had was L2004 (it's NV as the Syrah makes it VdT), I
> think there's been a newer release

D'Oh! How soon they forget, Dale. And that note comes with far better
provenance than the ones I posted ;-)

Mark Lipton