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1998 Domaine du Pégaü Chteauneuf-du-Pape Cuvée Réservée (1/13/2014)
Wow! The fuzzy tannins of yore have now been civilized and the mouthfeel is downright silky. Tarry (like an Amador Zin) and mineral-inflected dark cherry fruit with a nicely acidic spine. Unlike some previous encounters, this bottle was not Bretty in the least and bore few signs of the hot year that produced it. 2007 Domaine Chandon de Briailles Pernand-Vergelesses 1er Cru Ile des Vergelesses (1/13/2014) Upon opening, it was fairly tight, displaying a nose of tart raspberryish fruit and a bit of pencil lead. Three nights later, it was transformed: the nose had taken on some very appealing floral notes and on the palate the wine was much more open and giving, still in a lighter, red-fruited vein. This should really be lovely in a few years. 1999 Domaine Michel Gaunoux Beaune (1/8/2014) Still fairly tight, it has a nose of tart raspberry and graphite. On the palate, it's got fine acidity, medium body and a good core of fruit. This'll easily go another 3-5 years I think, and will probably get better. 2005 Lagier Meredith Syrah Mt. Veeder (1/8/2014) Surprisingly lush and primary, this wine showed its California character in spades. Not gloopy or OTT in any way, but definitely on the big side for Syrah, it had enough acidity to go well with the food. I'll keep my hands off my other bottle for a few more years, though, in hopes that it'll develop more tertiary character. NV François Pinon Vouvray Brut Non Dosé (1/7/2014) Slightly toasty, with a crisp, apply flavor profile. Vivid acidity but a sense of richness to the mouthfeel. Really lovely and a great value. 1996 Robert Mondavi Winery Cabernet Sauvignon Oakville (1/7/2014) Dark, plummy fruit mixed with graphite in the nose. On the palate, medium bodied with fine-grained tannins and decent acidity. Showing as mature Cabernet but no tertiary development. A tad simple but a decent wine. 2012 A Donkey and Goat Grenache Noir El Dorado (12/14/2013) Juicy, spicy and high toned red fruits in a medium-bodied pacKage. Got a bit of that carbonic character, but it's got more alcohol than your typical glou-glou wine. Not much varietal character however. 2010 François Chidaine Montlouis-sur-Loire Les Choisilles (12/4/2013) Softer than expected and without the expected mineral cut to it. A bit rich, fairly dry and with plenty of Chenin fruit, but still overall a disappointment in comparison to e.g. the '08. 2009 Storybook Mountain Vineyards Zinfandel Mayacamas Range (11/29/2013) Still marked by oak, with plentiful berryish fruit and a bit soft. Pretty typical Zin, but not up to my expectations for this producer. 2009 Domaine Bernard Baudry Chinon Le Domaine (11/29/2013) A lovely, leathery nose is accompanied by a rich, balanced cab franc that delighted both wine geek and non-geek alike. A treat with roast turkey on Thanksgiving. 2011 Guy Breton Régnié (11/27/2013) Bright, red-fruited with floral and mineral notes. A bit of bitterness on the finish due to the tannins in this wine. A few years will do it good. Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net |
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On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 9:24:06 AM UTC-7, Mark Lipton wrote:
> 1998 Domaine du P�ga� Ch�teauneuf-du-Pape Cuv�e R�serv�e (1/13/2014) > > > > Wow! The fuzzy tannins of yore have now been civilized and the mouthfeel > > is downright silky. Tarry (like an Amador Zin) and mineral-inflected > > dark cherry fruit with a nicely acidic spine. Unlike some previous > > encounters, this bottle was not Bretty in the least and bore few signs > > of the hot year that produced it. > > > > 2007 Domaine Chandon de Briailles Pernand-Vergelesses 1er Cru Ile des > > Vergelesses (1/13/2014) > > > > Upon opening, it was fairly tight, displaying a nose of tart > > raspberryish fruit and a bit of pencil lead. Three nights later, it was > > transformed: the nose had taken on some very appealing floral notes and > > on the palate the wine was much more open and giving, still in a > > lighter, red-fruited vein. This should really be lovely in a few years. > > > > 1999 Domaine Michel Gaunoux Beaune (1/8/2014) > > > > Still fairly tight, it has a nose of tart raspberry and graphite. On the > > palate, it's got fine acidity, medium body and a good core of fruit. > > This'll easily go another 3-5 years I think, and will probably get better.. > > > > 2005 Lagier Meredith Syrah Mt. Veeder (1/8/2014) > > > > Surprisingly lush and primary, this wine showed its California character > > in spades. Not gloopy or OTT in any way, but definitely on the big side > > for Syrah, it had enough acidity to go well with the food. I'll keep my > > hands off my other bottle for a few more years, though, in hopes that > > it'll develop more tertiary character. > > > > NV Fran�ois Pinon Vouvray Brut Non Dos� (1/7/2014) > > > > Slightly toasty, with a crisp, apply flavor profile. Vivid acidity but a > > sense of richness to the mouthfeel. Really lovely and a great value. > > > > 1996 Robert Mondavi Winery Cabernet Sauvignon Oakville (1/7/2014) > > > > Dark, plummy fruit mixed with graphite in the nose. On the palate, > > medium bodied with fine-grained tannins and decent acidity. Showing as > > mature Cabernet but no tertiary development. A tad simple but a decent wine. > > > > 2012 A Donkey and Goat Grenache Noir El Dorado (12/14/2013) > > > > Juicy, spicy and high toned red fruits in a medium-bodied pacKage. Got a > > bit of that carbonic character, but it's got more alcohol than your > > typical glou-glou wine. Not much varietal character however. > > > > 2010 Fran�ois Chidaine Montlouis-sur-Loire Les Choisilles (12/4/2013) > > > > Softer than expected and without the expected mineral cut to it. A bit > > rich, fairly dry and with plenty of Chenin fruit, but still overall a > > disappointment in comparison to e.g. the '08. > > > > 2009 Storybook Mountain Vineyards Zinfandel Mayacamas Range (11/29/2013) > > > > Still marked by oak, with plentiful berryish fruit and a bit soft. > > Pretty typical Zin, but not up to my expectations for this producer. > > > > 2009 Domaine Bernard Baudry Chinon Le Domaine (11/29/2013) > > > > A lovely, leathery nose is accompanied by a rich, balanced cab franc > > that delighted both wine geek and non-geek alike. A treat with roast > > turkey on Thanksgiving. > > > > 2011 Guy Breton R�gni� (11/27/2013) > > > > Bright, red-fruited with floral and mineral notes. A bit of bitterness > > on the finish due to the tannins in this wine. A few years will do it good. > > > > Mark Lipton > > -- > > alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net I'm getting some weird character replacements for many of your wine listings in this post. Never seen that before. So, I don't know what wines you posted for about 1/2 of them. |
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On 1/15/14 12:06 PM, lleichtman wrote:
> I'm getting some weird character replacements for many of your wine > listings in this post. Never seen that before. So, I don't know what > wines you posted for about 1/2 of them. > Larry, My apologies. What's going on is that Google Groups doesn't recognize the character set (ISO-8859-1) that my post was written in. The characters that it chokes on are accented e and c with cedille. The only remedy I can suggest is to use a newsreader with a news server such as AIOE or Eternal-September. Mark -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net |
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On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 12:32:33 PM UTC-7, Mark Lipton wrote:
> On 1/15/14 12:06 PM, lleichtman wrote: > > > > > I'm getting some weird character replacements for many of your wine > > > listings in this post. Never seen that before. So, I don't know what > > > wines you posted for about 1/2 of them. > > > > > > > Larry, > > My apologies. What's going on is that Google Groups doesn't > > recognize the character set (ISO-8859-1) that my post was written in. > > The characters that it chokes on are accented e and c with cedille. The > > only remedy I can suggest is to use a newsreader with a news server such > > as AIOE or Eternal-September. > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net Wish I could but Comcast does not allow newsgroups so it is Google or nothing. |
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On 1/15/2014 5:31 PM, lleichtman wrote:
>> >> alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net > > Wish I could but Comcast does not allow newsgroups so it is Google or nothing. > sorry replied by email so if you got it great otherwise, I use comcast and eternal september for newsgroups, no movies or music but any text group so go to http://www.eternal-september.org/ to sign up and enjoy. -- Joseph Coulter |
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Joseph Coulter wrote:
> On 1/15/2014 5:31 PM, lleichtman wrote: > >>> >>> alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net >> >> Wish I could but Comcast does not allow newsgroups so it is Google or >> nothing. >> > sorry replied by email so if you got it great otherwise, I use comcast > and eternal september for newsgroups, no movies or music but any text > group so go to http://www.eternal-september.org/ to sign up and enjoy. > I'm on Comcast, too, and set up AIOE (http://www.aioe.org) with my email/newsgroup client Thunderbird (http://www.mozilla.org). Mark Lipton |
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On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:56:08 PM UTC-7, Mark Lipton wrote:
> Joseph Coulter wrote: > > > On 1/15/2014 5:31 PM, lleichtman wrote: > > > > > >>> > > >>> alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net > > >> > > >> Wish I could but Comcast does not allow newsgroups so it is Google or > > >> nothing. > > >> > > > sorry replied by email so if you got it great otherwise, I use comcast > > > and eternal september for newsgroups, no movies or music but any text > > > group so go to http://www.eternal-september.org/ to sign up and enjoy. > > > > > > > I'm on Comcast, too, and set up AIOE (http://www.aioe.org) with my > > email/newsgroup client Thunderbird (http://www.mozilla.org). > > > > Mark Lipton Not 100% clear how to do this in Thunderbird as there are no instructions for setting up newsgroup reading that I can find. |
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On Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:24:15 AM UTC-7, lleichtman wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:56:08 PM UTC-7, Mark Lipton wrote: > > > Joseph Coulter wrote: > > > > > > > On 1/15/2014 5:31 PM, lleichtman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Wish I could but Comcast does not allow newsgroups so it is Google or > > > > > > >> nothing. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sorry replied by email so if you got it great otherwise, I use comcast > > > > > > > and eternal september for newsgroups, no movies or music but any text > > > > > > > group so go to http://www.eternal-september.org/ to sign up and enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm on Comcast, too, and set up AIOE (http://www.aioe.org) with my > > > > > > email/newsgroup client Thunderbird (http://www.mozilla.org). > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Lipton > > > > Not 100% clear how to do this in Thunderbird as there are no instructions for setting up newsgroup reading that I can find. Well, I finally got it, thanks. Interestingly, certain characters are still wrong looking. |
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On 2014-01-16 18:36, lleichtman wrote:
> Well, I finally got it, thanks. Interestingly, certain characters are still wrong looking. > With Thunderbird 24.2.0 (Windows) Tools | Options | Display | Advanced | Character Encoding With both Outgoing and Incoming on Western (ISO-8859-1), the original message from Mark Lipton is displayed correctly, while your first reply looks like an ASCII rendering of Unicode -- Éric Lafontaine |
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On Thursday, January 16, 2014 2:37:56 PM UTC-7, Eric Lafontaine wrote:
> On 2014-01-16 18:36, lleichtman wrote: > > > > > Well, I finally got it, thanks. Interestingly, certain characters are still wrong looking. > > > > > > > With Thunderbird 24.2.0 (Windows) > > Tools | Options | Display | Advanced | Character Encoding > > With both Outgoing and Incoming on Western (ISO-8859-1), the original > > message from Mark Lipton is displayed correctly, while your first reply > > looks like an ASCII rendering of Unicode > > > > -- > > �ric Lafontaine Well, now it won't work on Thunderbird for Mac. Telling me I can't access newsgroup though it did it the first day now it is refused by the server. Wah? |
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