"Jean Balthazar" > wrote:

> A question from a newbie: I was able to buy some bottles of
> Cheval Blanc 2003. It doesn't say Grand Cru on the label.

Because it is not Chateau Cheval Blanc, the famous Premier Grand
Cru Classé in St-Émilion:

<http://olfac.univ-lyon1.fr/~vigour/e...rdeaux/st_emil
ion-chateau_cheval_blanc.jpg>

or

<http://snipurl.com/bsfs>

The 2003 is still in cask, of course.

> Does anyone know about this wine ? I can't find any info on the
> internet. How much is it supposed to cost more or less ?

The real thing comes in the solid three-digit range (USD/EUR).

It would be nice to know what type of wine you have. Tr to copy
everything that's on the label.

M.

Hi Michael,

Here's the entire label:

Saint-Emilion
appellation saint-émilion controlée
2003
sociéte civile du cheval blanc
propriétaire à saint-émilion - france
mis en bouteille à la propriété.

How long can this wine be kept in cellar ?

Thanks !


"Michael Pronay" > wrote in message
...
> "Jean Balthazar" > wrote:
>
> > A question from a newbie: I was able to buy some bottles of
> > Cheval Blanc 2003. It doesn't say Grand Cru on the label.
>
> Because it is not Chateau Cheval Blanc, the famous Premier Grand
> Cru Classé in St-Émilion:
>
> <http://olfac.univ-lyon1.fr/~vigour/e...rdeaux/st_emil
> ion-chateau_cheval_blanc.jpg>
>
> or
>
> <http://snipurl.com/bsfs>
>
> The 2003 is still in cask, of course.
>
> > Does anyone know about this wine ? I can't find any info on the
> > internet. How much is it supposed to cost more or less ?
>
> The real thing comes in the solid three-digit range (USD/EUR).
>
> It would be nice to know what type of wine you have. Tr to copy
> everything that's on the label.
>
> M.

one more thing, on the top it says: 33 - recoltant - 490

Don't know if that means a lot...

"Jean Balthazar" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Michael,
>
> Here's the entire label:
>
> Saint-Emilion
> appellation saint-émilion controlée
> 2003
> sociéte civile du cheval blanc
> propriétaire à saint-émilion - france
> mis en bouteille à la propriété.
>
> How long can this wine be kept in cellar ?
>
> Thanks !
>
>
> "Michael Pronay" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Jean Balthazar" > wrote:
> >
> > > A question from a newbie: I was able to buy some bottles of
> > > Cheval Blanc 2003. It doesn't say Grand Cru on the label.
> >
> > Because it is not Chateau Cheval Blanc, the famous Premier Grand
> > Cru Classé in St-Émilion:
> >
> > <http://olfac.univ-lyon1.fr/~vigour/e...rdeaux/st_emil
> > ion-chateau_cheval_blanc.jpg>
> >
> > or
> >
> > <http://snipurl.com/bsfs>
> >
> > The 2003 is still in cask, of course.
> >
> > > Does anyone know about this wine ? I can't find any info on the
> > > internet. How much is it supposed to cost more or less ?
> >
> > The real thing comes in the solid three-digit range (USD/EUR).
> >
> > It would be nice to know what type of wine you have. Tr to copy
> > everything that's on the label.
> >
> > M.
>
>

"Jean Balthazar" > wrote:

> Here's the entire label:
>
> Saint-Emilion
> appellation saint-émilion controlée
> 2003
> sociéte civile du cheval blanc
> propriétaire à saint-émilion - france
> mis en bouteille à la propriété.
>
> How long can this wine be kept in cellar ?

Very strange. Does the label carry any resemblance to the original I
sent the URL? How much did you pay for it?

The only wine I know cheval blanc bottles beside the Grand Vin is "Le
Petit Cheval", the second wine.

Anyhow,

<www.wine-searcher.com>

is always quite a useful toool when searching for a wine price.

M.

It does not resemble that label at all.. It is very simple white background
and simple font.
I was told it was a special lot of 2500 liters, and wanted to know more
about it.

I paid 20 Euro a bottle.

"Michael Pronay" > wrote in message
...
> "Jean Balthazar" > wrote:
>
> > Here's the entire label:
> >
> > Saint-Emilion
> > appellation saint-émilion controlée
> > 2003
> > sociéte civile du cheval blanc
> > propriétaire à saint-émilion - france
> > mis en bouteille à la propriété.
> >
> > How long can this wine be kept in cellar ?
>
> Very strange. Does the label carry any resemblance to the original I
> sent the URL? How much did you pay for it?
>
> The only wine I know cheval blanc bottles beside the Grand Vin is "Le
> Petit Cheval", the second wine.
>
> Anyhow,
>
> <www.wine-searcher.com>
>
> is always quite a useful toool when searching for a wine price.
>
> M.

"Jean Balthazar" > wrote:

> It does not resemble that label at all.. It is very simple white
> background and simple font. I was told it was a special lot of
> 2500 liters, and wanted to know more about it.
>
> I paid 20 Euro a bottle.

Sorry, but this seems to be very strange. Maybe you might contact
the chateau at <cheval point blanc at-sign chateau-chevalblanc
point com>?

M.

On 5 Jan 2005 16:09:42 GMT, Michael Pronay > said:

] "Jean Balthazar" > wrote:
]
] > It does not resemble that label at all.. It is very simple white
] > background and simple font. I was told it was a special lot of
] > 2500 liters, and wanted to know more about it.
] >
] > I paid 20 Euro a bottle.
]
] Sorry, but this seems to be very strange. Maybe you might contact
] the chateau at <cheval point blanc at-sign chateau-chevalblanc
] point com>?
]
] M.

Jean and Michael,

SC du Cheval Blanc is the company that makes "Cheval Blanc,"
the St Emilion 1ere grand cru of great repute. There is only one
"SC du Cheval Blanc" (forcibly) in France, so if the label says they
made the wine it is either so, or fraudulent.

None the less it is bizarre that they would do a bottling like this...
Knock off frauds don't usually carry that high a price tag, either.

There is not much '03 Bordeaux on the market yet, even on the low end,
that I've seen anyway.

-E
--
Emery Davis
You can reply to
by removing the well known companies

"Jean Balthazar" > skrev i melding
...
> Hi Michael,
>
> Here's the entire label:
>
> Saint-Emilion
> appellation saint-émilion controlée
> 2003
> sociéte civile du cheval blanc
> propriétaire à saint-émilion - france
> mis en bouteille à la propriété.
>
> How long can this wine be kept in cellar ?
>
Not strange at all
You have a St. Emilion, pure and simple. Could be a batch from very young
vines or the like that was not good enough for the chateau stuff.
Anders

"Anders Tørneskog" > wrote:

> Not strange at all
> You have a St. Emilion, pure and simple. Could be a batch from
> very young vines or the like that was not good enough for the
> chateau stuff.

Very strange, in fact. If the label would read "St-Émilion de
Cheval Blanc" (like "Pauillac Sté. civile du Chteau Latour" where
"PAUILLAC" is by far the most prominent word on the label), that
would make sense. But "Cheval Blanc"?! Not since "Mouton-Cadet
Baron de Rothschild" has there been such an offense to common
sense!

M.

"Michael Pronay" > skrev i melding
...
> "Anders Tørneskog" > wrote:
>
>> Not strange at all
>> You have a St. Emilion, pure and simple. Could be a batch from
>> very young vines or the like that was not good enough for the
>> chateau stuff.
>
> Very strange, in fact. If the label would read "St-Émilion de
> Cheval Blanc" (like "Pauillac Sté. civile du Chteau Latour" where
> "PAUILLAC" is by far the most prominent word on the label), that
> would make sense. But "Cheval Blanc"?! Not since "Mouton-Cadet
> Baron de Rothschild" has there been such an offense to common
> sense!
>
Unusual, may be, but the OP quoted this:
Saint-Emilion
appellation saint-émilion controlée
2003
sociéte civile du cheval blanc
propriétaire à saint-émilion - france
mis en bouteille à la propriété.

It does not say CHEVAL BLANC, like the PAUILLAC you mention does not say
LATOUR (and I did once have such a bottle where the only mention of Latour
was the logo on the cork! 1980?)
So, if the label above actually was SAINT EMILION, then it makes sense to
me.
But, I agree, it is probably very unusual, especially if you say so,
Michael!
:-) Anders

"Anders Tørneskog" > wrote:

> It does not say CHEVAL BLANC,

Take a look at the subject and reread the OP please:

| I was able to buy some bottles of Cheval Blanc 2003.

But maybe the Jean could help us in telling us whether Cheval
Blanc figures prominently on the label (what I condluded from
his first posting) or not (what you concluded from his second
posting).

M.

"Anders Tørneskog" > wrote:

> It does not say CHEVAL BLANC,

Take a look at the subject and reread the OP please:

| I was able to buy some bottles of Cheval Blanc 2003.

But maybe the Jean could help us in telling us whether Cheval
Blanc figures prominently on the label (what I condluded from
his first posting) or not (what you concluded from his second
posting).

M.