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Bunny McElwee
 
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Default Newbie looking for Wine Party Info

I am the Event Coordinator for my Local Miata Club (Little two seater
convertible, in case some of you don't know what a Miata is). Our group is
partial to wine drinking, most of us are what I would consider novices, but
we enjoy visiting wineries when we can find them (we live in Charleston, SC)
and having wine at dinners and other functions.
I have heard a lot about people having Wine & Cheese Parties and I have
decided to have one myself. Now, I am absolutely a novice, although I've
tasted a few wines, I prefer a beer or Wine Cooler to just about all the
Wine I've tried thus far. However, I still try new ones when I get the
chance, I'm sure there's a few out there I would like. So, on to the party.
Here's what I want to do: I am inviting everyone to my home, to have sort of
a Wine Judging contest. I'm asking that all members bring a bottle or
however many they want, under $20, completely wrapped in brown paper bags so
no one can see what they are. Then I will number the bags, and each person
will get to taste all the wines and judge them. Now, I would like to hand
out some sort of a paper ballot system, with things like taste, smell, and
those other categories wine should be judged in, maybe 3-4 of the top
categories is all I want. I don't want this to be too cumbersome, it's for
fun, and it's to let people taste a bunch of different wines without
spending hundreds of dollars to do so. I'll have small sip cups that people
will taste in, then if there is wine left, people can have a glass if they
like one. What I need to know is has anyone done this and if so, what are
your suggestions on running this "contest'? The winner will probably get a
nice bottle of wine, there will be eats, such as a cheese platter (any
suggestions on a good "all around" cheese platter would be great too -
something else I am not familiar with), nuts and fruits, probably some
dessert items, such as cheesecake rounds, etc. I'm just looking for help to
finalize and round out my party so that everyone enjoys it. There will be
coffee, soft drinks and water for anyone who doesn't want to participate as
well, so I think I have the whole gamut covered. My main concern is the
judging and how to go about it, such as the ballot, etc and then any help on
a good setup for a cheese platter would be helpful too. Thanks in advance, I
look forward to any and all replies!


--
Bunny McElwee
Event Coordinator & Membership
Lowcountry Miata Club
www.lowcountrymiataclub.net

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I'm not sure what you mean by "winner" since the people will be tasting
wine and giving their impressions, who is the "winner" and what is the
measurement? If the folks there are not "wine geeks" I'd just let them
enjoy the wine and food. Just remember that there is a limited number
of pours from a bottle so if you have a group larger than about 10
you'll have a hard time giving pours large enough to make a decent sip
of wine from each bottle so it's unlikey that everyone can taste each
wine. To keep it simple I would just have folks vote for which wine
they prefered of the lot.

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Bi!! wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean by "winner" since the people will be tasting
> wine and giving their impressions, who is the "winner" and what is the
> measurement? If the folks there are not "wine geeks" I'd just let them
> enjoy the wine and food. Just remember that there is a limited number
> of pours from a bottle so if you have a group larger than about 10
> you'll have a hard time giving pours large enough to make a decent sip
> of wine from each bottle so it's unlikey that everyone can taste each
> wine. To keep it simple I would just have folks vote for which wine
> they prefered of the lot.
>


Bill,
I assume that by winner, she means the person who brings the most
popular wine. I agree with you about the judging.

For Bunny:
I'd ask each person who brings a wine to categorize it broadly
(dry/sweet, red/white/rose) and group them accordingly into five
"flights" (or maybe 6: hopefully, no one brings a sweet red, but I guess
you never know...) Have a winner for each flight to give each style of
wine a chance to "win" (it also allows your guests to skip filghts of
wines that they expect they wouldn't like).
As for the cheese plate, keep in mind that many wine/cheese combinations
are not particularly pleasant. For dry reds, choose hard cheeses like a
not-too-sharp Cheddar, Manchego or Asiago. For sweet whites, try a good
blue cheese; for dry whites, a soft cow's milk cheese; for sweet blush
(rose) wines, perhaps some assorted nuts. Or just combine all the
cheeses and nuts onto a platter and let your guests test the various
combinations. Good bread or crackers are also useful.

HTH
Mark Lipton
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Hi Bunny,

The key for something like this is keeping it informal and fun.

One thing I would do is not use "small cups" ... have enough wine
glasses for everyone. Then provide a dump bucket to empty glasses out
in. A 1 - 1.5 oz pour is sufficient for tasting.

We'ver compiled several thoughts on wine tasting parties on our site
at

http://www.stratsplace.com/winetasting.html

Art Stratemeyer
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Salut/Hi Bunny,

le/on Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:12:49 -0500, tu disais/you said:-

>however many they want, under $20, completely wrapped in brown paper bags so
>no one can see what they are. Then I will number the bags, and each person
>will get to taste all the wines and judge them.


Sounds fun.

> Now, I would like to hand out some sort of a paper ballot system, with things like taste, smell, and
>those other categories wine should be judged in, maybe 3-4 of the top
>categories is all I want. I don't want this to be too cumbersome, it's for
>fun, and it's to let people taste a bunch of different wines without
>spending hundreds of dollars to do so. I'll have small sip cups that people
>will taste in, then if there is wine left, people can have a glass if they
>like one.


May I suggest that instead of small sip cups, which are utterly hopeless for
tasting purposes, that you have some reasonably decent tasting glasses. I
use the INAO glasses for this, but I'm guessing you're in the USA, so you'll
have to ask advice from other US residents as to what's available and not
too expensive. Very briefly, to taste a wine you need to be able to judge
the smell, and to do this yu need an appropriately shaped glass.

As for the tasting grid, I do have one, but a) it's in Wordperfect format
and b) it may not be sent here to a non binary newsgroup.

I'll see if I can post it as HTML on a random page in one of my websites.

>your suggestions on running this "contest'?


How would you pick a winner? In fact are you after a winning wine? (That's
relatively easy) or a winning participant, if the latter, what criteria
would you judge by?

>nice bottle of wine, there will be eats, such as a cheese platter (any
>suggestions on a good "all around" cheese platter would be great too -


Beware. Although cheese and wine have this reputation as perfect partners,
be aware that they aren't as easy as all that. I quote from the late great
Tommy Layton's book on cheese and wine.

"Wine's affinity to cheese is remarkable. There is a wine to go with every
cheese. But let us not exaggerate: every wine does not go with every cheese
by a long chalk. Indeed there are a growing number of people who experience
a marked dislike of their red wine after they have had a mouthful of a
certain cheese."

I find that "cooked" cheeses like gruyere, go better with reds than soft
cheeses. Blue cheeses go better with sweet wines than others, Goat cheeses
are better paired with sauvignon based wines, though they'll also go with
some reds. VERY soft stinky cheeses don't (with apologies to my burgundian
friends) go that well with anything.

>well, so I think I have the whole gamut covered. My main concern is the
>judging and how to go about it, such as the ballot, etc and then any help on
>a good setup for a cheese platter would be helpful too.


As I said, I'm concerned as to how you judge who wins, and why.

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All the Best
Ian Hoare
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Ian Hoare wrote:

> May I suggest that instead of small sip cups, which are utterly hopeless for
> tasting purposes, that you have some reasonably decent tasting glasses. I
> use the INAO glasses for this, but I'm guessing you're in the USA, so you'll
> have to ask advice from other US residents as to what's available and not
> too expensive. Very briefly, to taste a wine you need to be able to judge
> the smell, and to do this yu need an appropriately shaped glass.


In fact, INAO glasses are available in the US, Ian -- if you know where
to look for them. IMO, they remain the most cost-effective
general-purpose wine glass as they can be had for ~$2 per stem which is
why we have a dozen of them lurking about our kitchen for everyday use.
>
> As for the tasting grid, I do have one, but a) it's in Wordperfect format
> and b) it may not be sent here to a non binary newsgroup.
>
> I'll see if I can post it as HTML on a random page in one of my websites.


Given Bunny's description of the potential tasters, I'd thought that a
simple ordinal ranking of wines within flights would make the most sense
and be the least intimidating for novice tasters. After the results are
revealed, people could be encouraged to describe why they voted the way
they did, in a strictly volutntary way (allowing the cork dorks to weigh
in).

Mark Lipton
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In article >, says...
>
>Ian Hoare wrote:
>
>> May I suggest that instead of small sip cups, which are utterly hopeless

for
>> tasting purposes, that you have some reasonably decent tasting glasses. I
>> use the INAO glasses for this, but I'm guessing you're in the USA, so

you'll
>> have to ask advice from other US residents as to what's available and not
>> too expensive. Very briefly, to taste a wine you need to be able to judge
>> the smell, and to do this yu need an appropriately shaped glass.

>
>In fact, INAO glasses are available in the US, Ian -- if you know where
>to look for them. IMO, they remain the most cost-effective
>general-purpose wine glass as they can be had for ~$2 per stem which is
>why we have a dozen of them lurking about our kitchen for everyday use.
>>
>> As for the tasting grid, I do have one, but a) it's in Wordperfect format
>> and b) it may not be sent here to a non binary newsgroup.
>>
>> I'll see if I can post it as HTML on a random page in one of my websites.

>
>Given Bunny's description of the potential tasters, I'd thought that a
>simple ordinal ranking of wines within flights would make the most sense
>and be the least intimidating for novice tasters. After the results are
>revealed, people could be encouraged to describe why they voted the way
>they did, in a strictly volutntary way (allowing the cork dorks to weigh
>in).
>
>Mark Lipton


Bunny,

I agree with both Mark and Ian's comments regarding both the glassware and the
cheeses. While I love wines w/ cheeses, the pairing requires a bit of caution.
the "hard" with reds and soft (well some of them anyway) with whites is a good
starting point. Plain crackers and a french bread without seasonings or butter
is a plus to "cleanse the palette."

As to the glassware, IKEA, the Swedish "furniture" importer is reputed to have
some really good ones at a great price. I don't know where you are, or where
in the US they have opened stores, but Crate & Barrel, or similar, also has
inexpensive wine glasses. To effectively taste a wine, I cannot stress a wine
glass too much. Now, not every person is as anal-retentive about glassware, as
I, but having done many dozen tastings, I CAN say that glassware can certainly
"break" an otherwise good wine. You can also contact a large "party" rental
facility in your area and even rent the glasses. I've done this on rare
occasions and they come in a case of 24, which will hold the rinsed glasses
for return. As the rental facility will clean them, only a good rinse is
required to return them.

If you are unable to get Ian's "tasting" mat layout, please e-mail me at:
and I will send you one. Mine is in Adobe Illustratior
AI format, but I can put it into about any format that you might want. I print
mine out onto an 11x17 sheet of white paper (the white is good for judging the
color of wine - I have a glass table!), but I can do it down to 8.5x14 (legal)
for you, if you can't print 11x17.

Most of all, have fun and let us all know how it went!!!!!

Hunt

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Salut/Hi Hunt,

le/on 1 Feb 2005 01:54:52 GMT, tu disais/you said:-


>>> As for the tasting grid, I do have one, but a) it's in Wordperfect format
>>> and b) it may not be sent here to a non binary newsgroup.
>>>
>>> I'll see if I can post it as HTML on a random page in one of my websites.


I've managed to upload it OK, but it's not going to be perfect, as it has
been converted into HTML. My problem is that I don't know how to set up a
web page to allow for a downloadable file! If I did, I could easily convert
it into PDF, which would be usable by anyone.

>I agree with both Mark and Ian's comments regarding both the glassware and the
>cheeses.


Thanks.

>inexpensive wine glasses. To effectively taste a wine, I cannot stress a wine
>glass too much. Now, not every person is as anal-retentive about glassware, as
>I, but having done many dozen tastings, I CAN say that glassware can certainly
>"break" an otherwise good wine.


Absolutely. You've only got to pour the same wine into a pastic "cup" and a
decent if unglamorous glass to tell the difference.

> You can also contact a large "party" rental facility in your area and even rent the glasses.


Good thinking.

>If you are unable to get Ian's "tasting" mat layout, please e-mail me at:
and I will send you one.


Mine is now on http://ianhoare.free.fr/winegrid.htm

>Most of all, have fun and let us all know how it went!!!!!


Exactly.

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Ian Hoare
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"Ian Hoare" > wrote in message
...
> Salut/Hi Hunt,
>
> I've managed to upload it OK, but it's not going to be perfect, as it has
> been converted into HTML. My problem is that I don't know how to set up a
> web page to allow for a downloadable file! If I did, I could easily
> convert
> it into PDF, which would be usable by anyone.



Just upload the PDF to your webspace and put the the whole address to it,
including the pdf file. Most news clients will just allow you to click on it
and fire up Acrobat. I converted it to pdf to give you an example, and made
it a bit smaller so as to fit on one page.

http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/davide/winetasting.pdf

Cheers

David E


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Bunny McElwee
 
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Ok, after reading all of your wonderful replies, I realized I know even less
than I thought I did about wine. I have decided, since this is all in fun
and everyone is just here to have a good time, that I am going the simple
route that I best understand. It came down to the following:

I'm having each couple/person if single, bring two identical bottles of
wine. The total of the two wines can not exceed $30. They will bring them
covered so no one can tell what they are. I'll be serving whites first, then
rose/blush, then reds. It will probably be done in teams of two, since two
bottles of wine won't go far and I already have 20 people signed up. I'm
using the format that I believe Ian put out, with the basic tasting format
with points given to each wine. It's got a nice description at the bottom
that explains what these categories mean, which will help most people. Then,
I'll collect the ballots, add up the scores, and the wine that got the
highest number of points is the "winner". The person who brought that bottle
of wine will go home with a GC to the local wine shop and maybe a few other
wine goodies/accessories. There will be a cheese/fruit/breadorcracker
platter of probably 3 types of cheese, a soft, medium, firm and maybe a
fourth strong cheese. Nothing fancy, just tidbits. I'll also have nuts
scattered around, oyster crackers, water, buckets and napkins. I'll also be
doing the tasting out of glasses rather than my first message which sip cups
which would have been plastic. Since I read thats a no-no, I decided if I
was going to do this, I would find the glasses, even if I had to purchase
some fm a local dollar store. I have 12, but had no idea I'd have this many
people want to come. Not that I mind, it just goes to show my thought was
correct in thinking this would be something our group would be interested
in. We had our monthly meeting this week and when we discussed it and how it
would work, everyone was very excited and they thought it was a wonderful
idea. Sounds like it will be a wonderful night.

So, thank you to all of the people who responded with ideas, no-nos,
suggestions and helpful information. Hopefully this will be a great event
and I will post how it went here after the party (on the 19th).

Btw, if anyone has any good suggestions for good cheeses that I can't go
wrong with and that I can find locally without breaking the bank, I'd take
that help as well. I figure grapes & strawberries on the sides as well as
some small bread slices, probably some stuffed globe grapes if I can find
them, with crushed pistachios and goat cheese, Parmesan puff pastry straws,
and some desserts, although I haven't figured out that yet. Anyway, thanks
again for all the wonderful information you've given me and hopefully you'll
be hearing a YIPEE from me on the 20th!



"Bunny McElwee" > wrote in message
...
> I am the Event Coordinator for my Local Miata Club (Little two seater
> convertible, in case some of you don't know what a Miata is). Our group is
> partial to wine drinking, most of us are what I would consider novices,

but
> we enjoy visiting wineries when we can find them (we live in Charleston,

SC)
> and having wine at dinners and other functions.
> I have heard a lot about people having Wine & Cheese Parties and I

have
> decided to have one myself. Now, I am absolutely a novice, although I've
> tasted a few wines, I prefer a beer or Wine Cooler to just about all the
> Wine I've tried thus far. However, I still try new ones when I get the
> chance, I'm sure there's a few out there I would like. So, on to the

party.
> Here's what I want to do: I am inviting everyone to my home, to have sort

of
> a Wine Judging contest. I'm asking that all members bring a bottle or
> however many they want, under $20, completely wrapped in brown paper bags

so
> no one can see what they are. Then I will number the bags, and each person
> will get to taste all the wines and judge them. Now, I would like to hand
> out some sort of a paper ballot system, with things like taste, smell, and
> those other categories wine should be judged in, maybe 3-4 of the top
> categories is all I want. I don't want this to be too cumbersome, it's for
> fun, and it's to let people taste a bunch of different wines without
> spending hundreds of dollars to do so. I'll have small sip cups that

people
> will taste in, then if there is wine left, people can have a glass if they
> like one. What I need to know is has anyone done this and if so, what are
> your suggestions on running this "contest'? The winner will probably get a
> nice bottle of wine, there will be eats, such as a cheese platter (any
> suggestions on a good "all around" cheese platter would be great too -
> something else I am not familiar with), nuts and fruits, probably some
> dessert items, such as cheesecake rounds, etc. I'm just looking for help

to
> finalize and round out my party so that everyone enjoys it. There will be
> coffee, soft drinks and water for anyone who doesn't want to participate

as
> well, so I think I have the whole gamut covered. My main concern is the
> judging and how to go about it, such as the ballot, etc and then any help

on
> a good setup for a cheese platter would be helpful too. Thanks in advance,

I
> look forward to any and all replies!
>
>
> --
> Bunny McElwee
> Event Coordinator & Membership
> Lowcountry Miata Club
> www.lowcountrymiataclub.net
>
> 1991 Mariner Blue with Red & White Stripes
> "BlueFlash"
>
>





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In article >,
says...
>
>Ok, after reading all of your wonderful replies, I realized I know even less
>than I thought I did about wine. I have decided, since this is all in fun
>and everyone is just here to have a good time, that I am going the simple
>route that I best understand. It came down to the following:


Bunny, fun is what it is all about!
>
> I'm having each couple/person if single, bring two identical bottles of
>wine. The total of the two wines can not exceed $30. They will bring them
>covered so no one can tell what they are. I'll be serving whites first, then
>rose/blush, then reds. It will probably be done in teams of two, since two
>bottles of wine won't go far and I already have 20 people signed up.


Actually, with 2 btls of each wine, you should not have any problem, as you do
not want each person to have too large a pour, especially since you are not
having a full meal. Even with dinner, I get 12 pours from each 0.75ltr bottle.
Now this is for "tasting" purposes, and NOT for "drinking" purposes.

I'm
>using the format that I believe Ian put out, with the basic tasting format
>with points given to each wine. It's got a nice description at the bottom
>that explains what these categories mean, which will help most people. Then,
>I'll collect the ballots, add up the scores, and the wine that got the
>highest number of points is the "winner". The person who brought that bottle
>of wine will go home with a GC to the local wine shop and maybe a few other
>wine goodies/accessories. There will be a cheese/fruit/breadorcracker
>platter of probably 3 types of cheese, a soft, medium, firm and maybe a
>fourth strong cheese. Nothing fancy, just tidbits. I'll also have nuts
>scattered around, oyster crackers, water, buckets and napkins. I'll also be
>doing the tasting out of glasses rather than my first message which sip cups
>which would have been plastic. Since I read thats a no-no, I decided if I
>was going to do this, I would find the glasses, even if I had to purchase
>some fm a local dollar store. I have 12, but had no idea I'd have this many
>people want to come. Not that I mind, it just goes to show my thought was
>correct in thinking this would be something our group would be interested
>in. We had our monthly meeting this week and when we discussed it and how it
>would work, everyone was very excited and they thought it was a wonderful
>idea. Sounds like it will be a wonderful night.


It sounds like you are on the right track for a great evening. I know that the
glassware can be a bit of a drag, but trust me, you, and your guests will
appreciate the difference.

>
> So, thank you to all of the people who responded with ideas, no-nos,
>suggestions and helpful information. Hopefully this will be a great event
>and I will post how it went here after the party (on the 19th).
>
> Btw, if anyone has any good suggestions for good cheeses that I can't go
>wrong with and that I can find locally without breaking the bank, I'd take
>that help as well. I figure grapes & strawberries on the sides as well as
>some small bread slices, probably some stuffed globe grapes if I can find
>them, with crushed pistachios and goat cheese, Parmesan puff pastry straws,
>and some desserts, although I haven't figured out that yet. Anyway, thanks
>again for all the wonderful information you've given me and hopefully you'll
>be hearing a YIPEE from me on the 20th!


[SNIP OP]

Do let us know how it goes - the good, and the things you'd do differently
next time.

Hunt

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You're out of your mind. What kind of sick individual are you? Why are
you wasting people's valuable time with this perverted, sick shit?

WINES ARE MADE TO BE DRUNK WITH MEALS. Not cheese and crackers, not
'for fun'. What kind of sick, twisted mind thinks up this crap?

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> wrote in message
oups.com...
> You're out of your mind. What kind of sick individual are you? Why are
> you wasting people's valuable time with this perverted, sick shit?
>
> WINES ARE MADE TO BE DRUNK WITH MEALS. Not cheese and crackers, not
> 'for fun'. What kind of sick, twisted mind thinks up this crap?
>


God forbid we should have FUN with wine


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"Andrew Goldfinch" > wrote:

> > wrote
>
>> [Total BS]


> God forbid we should have FUN with wine


Would you - and the group - please reply to uraniumcommittee's (or
whatever name he takes) postings simply with one line:

"DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!"

This applies to the first seeing these utterly bullshit postings.

Thank you.

M.
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Michael Pronay wrote:

> Would you - and the group - please reply to uraniumcommittee's (or
> whatever name he takes) postings simply with one line:
>
> "DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!"
>
> This applies to the first seeing these utterly bullshit postings.


If you would also forward any message that he posts in AFW to

it might help get rid of him also.
I know they are already working on a number of complaints about him.



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Bill Loftin wrote:
> Michael Pronay wrote:
>
>> Would you - and the group - please reply to uraniumcommittee's (or
>> whatever name he takes) postings simply with one line:
>>
>> "DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!"
>>
>> This applies to the first seeing these utterly bullshit postings.

>
>
> If you would also forward any message that he posts in AFW to
>
> it might help get rid of him also.
> I know they are already working on a number of complaints about him.
>


Bad advice, Bill. He doesn't post through yahoo, but rather through
Google ) from a nuvox account ).
However, many ISPs don't consider abusive language to itself by a
violation of their acceptable use policy. However, both of the
organizations in question do list "verbal harassment" among their no-nos.

Mark Lipton
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Sorry Michael,

Missed reading this thread before I did reply to his "tasting" thread
where the tone was civil


On 5 Feb 2005 11:33:44 GMT, Michael Pronay > wrote:

>"Andrew Goldfinch" > wrote:
>
>> > wrote
>>
>>> [Total BS]

>
>> God forbid we should have FUN with wine

>
>Would you - and the group - please reply to uraniumcommittee's (or
>whatever name he takes) postings simply with one line:
>
>"DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!"
>
>This applies to the first seeing these utterly bullshit postings.
>
>Thank you.
>
>M.


Art Stratemeyer
=============================
http://www.stratsplace.com
A Community Celebration the Joy of Wine,Gardening and the Arts

Cellar! Wine Software
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Art Stratemeyer wrote:
> Sorry Michael,
>
> Missed reading this thread before I did reply to his "tasting" thread
> where the tone was civil
>
>
> On 5 Feb 2005 11:33:44 GMT, Michael Pronay > wrote:
>
> >"Andrew Goldfinch" > wrote:
> >
> >> > wrote
> >>
> >>> [Total BS]

> >
> >> God forbid we should have FUN with wine

> >
> >Would you - and the group - please reply to uraniumcommittee's (or
> >whatever name he takes) postings simply with one line:
> >
> >"DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!"
> >
> >This applies to the first seeing these utterly bullshit postings.
> >
> >Thank you.
> >
> >M.

>
> Art Stratemeyer
> =============================
> http://www.stratsplace.com
> A Community Celebration the Joy of Wine,Gardening and the Arts
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The fad for 'tastings' by amateurs represents a cultural void. Only
Americans do this. Italians don't.

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Do you have ANYTHING else to contribute here other then excoriating 99.9% of
the participants. Because you do not like the sub-culture of wine
appreciation and hold the dogmatic view that wine is only to be enjoyed with
food is jejune and BORING. You should form your own sub-group alt.food &
wine.together.

The original poster in this thread was thirsting for knowledge. Your
familiar and repetitive rejoinder was not only antagonistic but pejorative.

Please desist from further argumentative and insulting prose.

--
Joe "Beppe" Rosenberg
> wrote in message
oups.com...
> You're out of your mind. What kind of sick individual are you? Why are
> you wasting people's valuable time with this perverted, sick shit?
>
> WINES ARE MADE TO BE DRUNK WITH MEALS. Not cheese and crackers, not
> 'for fun'. What kind of sick, twisted mind thinks up this crap?
>



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"Do you have ANYTHING else to contribute here other then excoriating
99.9% of
the participants. Because you do not like the sub-culture of wine
appreciation and hold the dogmatic view that wine is only to be enjoyed
with
food is jejune and BORING. You should form your own sub-group alt.food
&
wine.together.

The original poster in this thread was thirsting for knowledge. Your
familiar and repetitive rejoinder was not only antagonistic but
pejorative.

Please desist from further argumentative and insulting prose. "

I'm just getting started, Joe. I'm sick of the idiotic American
'tasting' mentality. The blonde's idea of culture. 'Well, Jill, let's
have a tasting party!. Let's invite Susie and Shauna and Patty and
Clarise!'

Pinot Grigio and Chardonnay!

Heaven forbid anyone would actually COOK a meal and invite 15 or so
people over to ENJOY the wines with a real meal. NO! They're too busy
having out hair done and taking the kids to soccer practice while
talking on their cell phones...

It's sickening...pathetic and sickening



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> wrote in message
oups.com...
> "Do you have ANYTHING else to contribute here other then excoriating
> 99.9% of
> the participants. Because you do not like the sub-culture of wine
> appreciation and hold the dogmatic view that wine is only to be enjoyed
> with
> food is jejune and BORING. You should form your own sub-group alt.food
> &
> wine.together.
>
> The original poster in this thread was thirsting for knowledge. Your
> familiar and repetitive rejoinder was not only antagonistic but
> pejorative.
>
> Please desist from further argumentative and insulting prose. "
>
> I'm just getting started, Joe. I'm sick of the idiotic American
> 'tasting' mentality. The blonde's idea of culture. 'Well, Jill, let's
> have a tasting party!. Let's invite Susie and Shauna and Patty and
> Clarise!'
>
> Pinot Grigio and Chardonnay!
>
> Heaven forbid anyone would actually COOK a meal and invite 15 or so
> people over to ENJOY the wines with a real meal. NO! They're too busy
> having out hair done and taking the kids to soccer practice while
> talking on their cell phones...
>
> It's sickening...pathetic and sickening
>


Totally inappropriate -- totally. Need some help with Social Skills????

M


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Mike P wrote:
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > "Do you have ANYTHING else to contribute here other then

excoriating
> > 99.9% of
> > the participants. Because you do not like the sub-culture of wine
> > appreciation and hold the dogmatic view that wine is only to be

enjoyed
> > with
> > food is jejune and BORING. You should form your own sub-group

alt.food
> > &
> > wine.together.
> >
> > The original poster in this thread was thirsting for knowledge.

Your
> > familiar and repetitive rejoinder was not only antagonistic but
> > pejorative.
> >
> > Please desist from further argumentative and insulting prose. "
> >
> > I'm just getting started, Joe. I'm sick of the idiotic American
> > 'tasting' mentality. The blonde's idea of culture. 'Well, Jill,

let's
> > have a tasting party!. Let's invite Susie and Shauna and Patty and
> > Clarise!'
> >
> > Pinot Grigio and Chardonnay!
> >
> > Heaven forbid anyone would actually COOK a meal and invite 15 or so
> > people over to ENJOY the wines with a real meal. NO! They're too

busy
> > having out hair done and taking the kids to soccer practice while
> > talking on their cell phones...
> >
> > It's sickening...pathetic and sickening
> >

>
> Totally inappropriate -- totally. Need some help with Social

Skills????
>
> M



Can you imagine in such an outrage in Italy? A 'tasting party'?
Absolutely not. On Americans, with their 'consumeristic' culture, would
even think of such idiocy.

And of course, there has to be a 'winner'!

Excuse me while I go vomit.....

Bunny, get a life....

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Bunny McElwee
 
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Ok, hopefully I can get some advice from you guys without getting
attacked again. Seems like I post a message and instead of getting replies
to my message, I get a bunch of replies to the Trolls <BG>! Anyway, I've
figured out my party setup, I'd like to know of any advice you can offer
that would help me with the food aspect of my Party. No, this is not a full
meal, yes *I* will be making ALL OF it, I am just short of a gourmet cook
and I make ALL of my own party foods, big or small, at my home or someone
else's. I would like to have a cheese platter, maybe three to four cheese
varieties and along side it fruits (grapes, strawberries, etc) and
crackers/breads. What are the best all around cheese's that any cheese
platter should not be without? I know they should be served room temp, but I
don't generally eat these kinds of cheese's so I don't know how to serve
them? Rind on or off? Let them guest decide, or cut it off in advance? And
suggestions on types of cheeses I should have that would likely be good ones
to have on a platter of this kind, with the inclusion of people drinking
wine? I understand that the wine & cheese thing does not always go together,
I really am looking more for a good accompaniment of cheeses for people to
nibble on and not necessarily for them to eat WITH their wine as a matched
set.
Also, any ideas of other "wine/Italian" type dishes I could serve or no
Wine party should be without? I want to keep this to mainly finger type
foods, but I want there to be enough to eat that people won't be falling
over drunk everywhere after they've had a couple glasses. I was think some
stuffed globe grapes with goat cheese and crushed pistachios, bruschetta,
nuts, parmesan puff pastry sticks, maybe some squares of simple cheesecake.
This doesn't sound substantial enough to really fill the belly. I'd like to
do something with chicken, maybe some marinated chunks of chicken thighs on
skewers, but not sure what type of marinade to use at this point.
Anyway, hopefully some of you kind people who have been helping me with
this can give me some suggestions on some more suitable foods to provide my
guest. My original post stated 20 people, I am now looking at 30-40 guests.

BTW, I will also be having a BDay cake on hand as it is my Husbands
birthday on the 26th and we decided to surprise him on the 19th because he
says we never can. I think we will this year!


"Bunny McElwee" > wrote in message
...
> I am the Event Coordinator for my Local Miata Club (Little two seater
> convertible, in case some of you don't know what a Miata is). Our group is
> partial to wine drinking, most of us are what I would consider novices,

but
> we enjoy visiting wineries when we can find them (we live in Charleston,

SC)
> and having wine at dinners and other functions.
> I have heard a lot about people having Wine & Cheese Parties and I

have
> decided to have one myself. Now, I am absolutely a novice, although I've
> tasted a few wines, I prefer a beer or Wine Cooler to just about all the
> Wine I've tried thus far. However, I still try new ones when I get the
> chance, I'm sure there's a few out there I would like. So, on to the

party.
> Here's what I want to do: I am inviting everyone to my home, to have sort

of
> a Wine Judging contest. I'm asking that all members bring a bottle or
> however many they want, under $20, completely wrapped in brown paper bags

so
> no one can see what they are. Then I will number the bags, and each person
> will get to taste all the wines and judge them. Now, I would like to hand
> out some sort of a paper ballot system, with things like taste, smell, and
> those other categories wine should be judged in, maybe 3-4 of the top
> categories is all I want. I don't want this to be too cumbersome, it's for
> fun, and it's to let people taste a bunch of different wines without
> spending hundreds of dollars to do so. I'll have small sip cups that

people
> will taste in, then if there is wine left, people can have a glass if they
> like one. What I need to know is has anyone done this and if so, what are
> your suggestions on running this "contest'? The winner will probably get a
> nice bottle of wine, there will be eats, such as a cheese platter (any
> suggestions on a good "all around" cheese platter would be great too -
> something else I am not familiar with), nuts and fruits, probably some
> dessert items, such as cheesecake rounds, etc. I'm just looking for help

to
> finalize and round out my party so that everyone enjoys it. There will be
> coffee, soft drinks and water for anyone who doesn't want to participate

as
> well, so I think I have the whole gamut covered. My main concern is the
> judging and how to go about it, such as the ballot, etc and then any help

on
> a good setup for a cheese platter would be helpful too. Thanks in advance,

I
> look forward to any and all replies!
>
>
> --
> Bunny McElwee
> Event Coordinator & Membership
> Lowcountry Miata Club
> www.lowcountrymiataclub.net
>
> 1991 Mariner Blue with Red & White Stripes
> "BlueFlash"
>
>



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Bunny McElwee wrote:
> Ok, hopefully I can get some advice from you guys without getting
> attacked again. Seems like I post a message and instead of getting

replies
> to my message, I get a bunch of replies to the Trolls <BG>! Anyway,

I've
> figured out my party setup, I'd like to know of any advice you can

offer
> that would help me with the food aspect of my Party. No, this is not

a full
> meal, yes *I* will be making ALL OF it, I am just short of a gourmet

cook
> and I make ALL of my own party foods, big or small, at my home or

someone
> else's. I would like to have a cheese platter, maybe three to four

cheese
> varieties and along side it fruits (grapes, strawberries, etc) and
> crackers/breads. What are the best all around cheese's that any

cheese
> platter should not be without? I know they should be served room

temp, but I
> don't generally eat these kinds of cheese's so I don't know how to

serve
> them? Rind on or off? Let them guest decide, or cut it off in

advance? And
> suggestions on types of cheeses I should have that would likely be

good ones
> to have on a platter of this kind, with the inclusion of people

drinking
> wine? I understand that the wine & cheese thing does not always go

together,
> I really am looking more for a good accompaniment of cheeses for

people to
> nibble on and not necessarily for them to eat WITH their wine as a

matched
> set.
> Also, any ideas of other "wine/Italian" type dishes I could serve

or no
> Wine party should be without? I want to keep this to mainly finger

type
> foods, but I want there to be enough to eat that people won't be

falling
> over drunk everywhere after they've had a couple glasses. I was think

some
> stuffed globe grapes with goat cheese and crushed pistachios,

bruschetta,
> nuts, parmesan puff pastry sticks, maybe some squares of simple

cheesecake.
> This doesn't sound substantial enough to really fill the belly. I'd

like to
> do something with chicken, maybe some marinated chunks of chicken

thighs on
> skewers, but not sure what type of marinade to use at this point.
> Anyway, hopefully some of you kind people who have been helping

me with
> this can give me some suggestions on some more suitable foods to

provide my
> guest. My original post stated 20 people, I am now looking at 30-40

guests.
>
> BTW, I will also be having a BDay cake on hand as it is my

Husbands
> birthday on the 26th and we decided to surprise him on the 19th

because he
> says we never can. I think we will this year!
>
>
> "Bunny McElwee" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I am the Event Coordinator for my Local Miata Club (Little two

seater
> > convertible, in case some of you don't know what a Miata is). Our

group is
> > partial to wine drinking, most of us are what I would consider

novices,
> but
> > we enjoy visiting wineries when we can find them (we live in

Charleston,
> SC)
> > and having wine at dinners and other functions.
> > I have heard a lot about people having Wine & Cheese Parties

and I
> have
> > decided to have one myself. Now, I am absolutely a novice, although

I've
> > tasted a few wines, I prefer a beer or Wine Cooler to just about

all the
> > Wine I've tried thus far. However, I still try new ones when I get

the
> > chance, I'm sure there's a few out there I would like. So, on to

the
> party.
> > Here's what I want to do: I am inviting everyone to my home, to

have sort
> of
> > a Wine Judging contest. I'm asking that all members bring a bottle

or
> > however many they want, under $20, completely wrapped in brown

paper bags
> so
> > no one can see what they are. Then I will number the bags, and each

person
> > will get to taste all the wines and judge them. Now, I would like

to hand
> > out some sort of a paper ballot system, with things like taste,

smell, and
> > those other categories wine should be judged in, maybe 3-4 of the

top
> > categories is all I want. I don't want this to be too cumbersome,

it's for
> > fun, and it's to let people taste a bunch of different wines

without
> > spending hundreds of dollars to do so. I'll have small sip cups

that
> people
> > will taste in, then if there is wine left, people can have a glass

if they
> > like one. What I need to know is has anyone done this and if so,

what are
> > your suggestions on running this "contest'? The winner will

probably get a
> > nice bottle of wine, there will be eats, such as a cheese platter

(any
> > suggestions on a good "all around" cheese platter would be great

too -
> > something else I am not familiar with), nuts and fruits, probably

some
> > dessert items, such as cheesecake rounds, etc. I'm just looking for

help
> to
> > finalize and round out my party so that everyone enjoys it. There

will be
> > coffee, soft drinks and water for anyone who doesn't want to

participate
> as
> > well, so I think I have the whole gamut covered. My main concern is

the
> > judging and how to go about it, such as the ballot, etc and then

any help
> on
> > a good setup for a cheese platter would be helpful too. Thanks in

advance,
> I
> > look forward to any and all replies!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bunny McElwee
> > Event Coordinator & Membership
> > Lowcountry Miata Club
> > www.lowcountrymiataclub.net
> >
> > 1991 Mariner Blue with Red & White Stripes
> > "BlueFlash"
> >
> >




The cookbook "Ultimate Recipes Italian" has an excellent section on
"starters".

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Bunny McElwee wrote:
> Ok, hopefully I can get some advice from you guys without getting
> attacked again. Seems like I post a message and instead of getting

replies
> to my message, I get a bunch of replies to the Trolls <BG>! Anyway,

I've
> figured out my party setup, I'd like to know of any advice you can

offer
> that would help me with the food aspect of my Party. No, this is not

a full
> meal, yes *I* will be making ALL OF it, I am just short of a gourmet

cook
> and I make ALL of my own party foods, big or small, at my home or

someone
> else's. I would like to have a cheese platter, maybe three to four

cheese
> varieties and along side it fruits (grapes, strawberries, etc) and
> crackers/breads. What are the best all around cheese's that any

cheese
> platter should not be without? I know they should be served room

temp, but I
> don't generally eat these kinds of cheese's so I don't know how to

serve
> them? Rind on or off? Let them guest decide, or cut it off in

advance? And
> suggestions on types of cheeses I should have that would likely be

good ones
> to have on a platter of this kind, with the inclusion of people

drinking
> wine? I understand that the wine & cheese thing does not always go

together,
> I really am looking more for a good accompaniment of cheeses for

people to
> nibble on and not necessarily for them to eat WITH their wine as a

matched
> set.
> Also, any ideas of other "wine/Italian" type dishes I could serve

or no
> Wine party should be without? I want to keep this to mainly finger

type
> foods, but I want there to be enough to eat that people won't be

falling
> over drunk everywhere after they've had a couple glasses. I was think

some
> stuffed globe grapes with goat cheese and crushed pistachios,

bruschetta,
> nuts, parmesan puff pastry sticks, maybe some squares of simple

cheesecake.
> This doesn't sound substantial enough to really fill the belly. I'd

like to
> do something with chicken, maybe some marinated chunks of chicken

thighs on
> skewers, but not sure what type of marinade to use at this point.
> Anyway, hopefully some of you kind people who have been helping

me with
> this can give me some suggestions on some more suitable foods to

provide my
> guest. My original post stated 20 people, I am now looking at 30-40

guests.
>
> BTW, I will also be having a BDay cake on hand as it is my

Husbands
> birthday on the 26th and we decided to surprise him on the 19th

because he
> says we never can. I think we will this year!
>
>
> "Bunny McElwee" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I am the Event Coordinator for my Local Miata Club (Little two

seater
> > convertible, in case some of you don't know what a Miata is). Our

group is
> > partial to wine drinking, most of us are what I would consider

novices,
> but
> > we enjoy visiting wineries when we can find them (we live in

Charleston,
> SC)
> > and having wine at dinners and other functions.
> > I have heard a lot about people having Wine & Cheese Parties

and I
> have
> > decided to have one myself. Now, I am absolutely a novice, although

I've
> > tasted a few wines, I prefer a beer or Wine Cooler to just about

all the
> > Wine I've tried thus far. However, I still try new ones when I get

the
> > chance, I'm sure there's a few out there I would like. So, on to

the
> party.
> > Here's what I want to do: I am inviting everyone to my home, to

have sort
> of
> > a Wine Judging contest. I'm asking that all members bring a bottle

or
> > however many they want, under $20, completely wrapped in brown

paper bags
> so
> > no one can see what they are. Then I will number the bags, and each

person
> > will get to taste all the wines and judge them. Now, I would like

to hand
> > out some sort of a paper ballot system, with things like taste,

smell, and
> > those other categories wine should be judged in, maybe 3-4 of the

top
> > categories is all I want. I don't want this to be too cumbersome,

it's for
> > fun, and it's to let people taste a bunch of different wines

without
> > spending hundreds of dollars to do so. I'll have small sip cups

that
> people
> > will taste in, then if there is wine left, people can have a glass

if they
> > like one. What I need to know is has anyone done this and if so,

what are
> > your suggestions on running this "contest'? The winner will

probably get a
> > nice bottle of wine, there will be eats, such as a cheese platter

(any
> > suggestions on a good "all around" cheese platter would be great

too -
> > something else I am not familiar with), nuts and fruits, probably

some
> > dessert items, such as cheesecake rounds, etc. I'm just looking for

help
> to
> > finalize and round out my party so that everyone enjoys it. There

will be
> > coffee, soft drinks and water for anyone who doesn't want to

participate
> as
> > well, so I think I have the whole gamut covered. My main concern is

the
> > judging and how to go about it, such as the ballot, etc and then

any help
> on
> > a good setup for a cheese platter would be helpful too. Thanks in

advance,
> I
> > look forward to any and all replies!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bunny McElwee
> > Event Coordinator & Membership
> > Lowcountry Miata Club
> > www.lowcountrymiataclub.net
> >
> > 1991 Mariner Blue with Red & White Stripes
> > "BlueFlash"
> >
> >




http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...916437-8986237

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books



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Bunny McElwee wrote:
> Ok, hopefully I can get some advice from you guys without getting
> attacked again. Seems like I post a message and instead of getting

replies
> to my message, I get a bunch of replies to the Trolls <BG>! Anyway,

I've
> figured out my party setup, I'd like to know of any advice you can

offer
> that would help me with the food aspect of my Party. No, this is not

a full
> meal, yes *I* will be making ALL OF it, I am just short of a gourmet

cook
> and I make ALL of my own party foods, big or small, at my home or

someone
> else's. I would like to have a cheese platter, maybe three to four

cheese
> varieties and along side it fruits (grapes, strawberries, etc) and
> crackers/breads. What are the best all around cheese's that any

cheese
> platter should not be without? I know they should be served room

temp, but I
> don't generally eat these kinds of cheese's so I don't know how to

serve
> them? Rind on or off? Let them guest decide, or cut it off in

advance? And
> suggestions on types of cheeses I should have that would likely be

good ones
> to have on a platter of this kind, with the inclusion of people

drinking
> wine? I understand that the wine & cheese thing does not always go

together,
> I really am looking more for a good accompaniment of cheeses for

people to
> nibble on and not necessarily for them to eat WITH their wine as a

matched
> set.
> Also, any ideas of other "wine/Italian" type dishes I could serve

or no
> Wine party should be without? I want to keep this to mainly finger

type
> foods, but I want there to be enough to eat that people won't be

falling
> over drunk everywhere after they've had a couple glasses. I was think

some
> stuffed globe grapes with goat cheese and crushed pistachios,

bruschetta,
> nuts, parmesan puff pastry sticks, maybe some squares of simple

cheesecake.
> This doesn't sound substantial enough to really fill the belly. I'd

like to
> do something with chicken, maybe some marinated chunks of chicken

thighs on
> skewers, but not sure what type of marinade to use at this point.
> Anyway, hopefully some of you kind people who have been helping

me with
> this can give me some suggestions on some more suitable foods to

provide my
> guest. My original post stated 20 people, I am now looking at 30-40

guests.
>
> BTW, I will also be having a BDay cake on hand as it is my

Husbands
> birthday on the 26th and we decided to surprise him on the 19th

because he
> says we never can. I think we will this year!
>
>
> "Bunny McElwee" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I am the Event Coordinator for my Local Miata Club (Little two

seater
> > convertible, in case some of you don't know what a Miata is). Our

group is
> > partial to wine drinking, most of us are what I would consider

novices,
> but
> > we enjoy visiting wineries when we can find them (we live in

Charleston,
> SC)
> > and having wine at dinners and other functions.
> > I have heard a lot about people having Wine & Cheese Parties

and I
> have
> > decided to have one myself. Now, I am absolutely a novice, although

I've
> > tasted a few wines, I prefer a beer or Wine Cooler to just about

all the
> > Wine I've tried thus far. However, I still try new ones when I get

the
> > chance, I'm sure there's a few out there I would like. So, on to

the
> party.
> > Here's what I want to do: I am inviting everyone to my home, to

have sort
> of
> > a Wine Judging contest. I'm asking that all members bring a bottle

or
> > however many they want, under $20, completely wrapped in brown

paper bags
> so
> > no one can see what they are. Then I will number the bags, and each

person
> > will get to taste all the wines and judge them. Now, I would like

to hand
> > out some sort of a paper ballot system, with things like taste,

smell, and
> > those other categories wine should be judged in, maybe 3-4 of the

top
> > categories is all I want. I don't want this to be too cumbersome,

it's for
> > fun, and it's to let people taste a bunch of different wines

without
> > spending hundreds of dollars to do so. I'll have small sip cups

that
> people
> > will taste in, then if there is wine left, people can have a glass

if they
> > like one. What I need to know is has anyone done this and if so,

what are
> > your suggestions on running this "contest'? The winner will

probably get a
> > nice bottle of wine, there will be eats, such as a cheese platter

(any
> > suggestions on a good "all around" cheese platter would be great

too -
> > something else I am not familiar with), nuts and fruits, probably

some
> > dessert items, such as cheesecake rounds, etc. I'm just looking for

help
> to
> > finalize and round out my party so that everyone enjoys it. There

will be
> > coffee, soft drinks and water for anyone who doesn't want to

participate
> as
> > well, so I think I have the whole gamut covered. My main concern is

the
> > judging and how to go about it, such as the ballot, etc and then

any help
> on
> > a good setup for a cheese platter would be helpful too. Thanks in

advance,
> I
> > look forward to any and all replies!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bunny McElwee
> > Event Coordinator & Membership
> > Lowcountry Miata Club
> > www.lowcountrymiataclub.net
> >
> > 1991 Mariner Blue with Red & White Stripes
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"Bunny McElwee" > wrote in message
...
Bunny - I can't help you that much with the cheeses - I personally like a
sharp American cheese with red wines, but many people may not agree. I've
been following this thread with interest - you have gotten a LOT of wisdom
from some people I respect very much (and also some of the usual newsgroup
highly opinianated people). I think your party will go very well.
At any rate, my family has just joined the Miata crowd, my wife bought a
used one Saturday. Both doors cannot be locked, either with key (turns but
nothing happens), or from inside (what appears to be a slide doesn't) - I
would expect maybe one door on a used vehicle to be a problem, but both? -
any wisdom on this?
We live in eastern NC, a bit far away to visit. If I were going, I'd carry a
nice German Riesling. Why? Well, first, I like them. Next, they are
different, won't be just another Chard or Cab (though I like Cabs, too).
I'll just end this by saying "Enjoy - have a good time of it."

Jim


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Yes, I absolutely got some very good information, I'm glad I came here
because while I got a little bit more confused on the advice given to me, I
got a lot of very good advice that I do plan to implement into my party. I
think this party will be a ball and I know my members are very enthusiastic
about this event as well.

As for the Miata, what area exactly do you live in? There are several
clubs in NC, as a matter of fact, we do regular events back and forth with
at least 3 of them during the year. We also do events in NC, one in Deal's
Gap area, one in the Maggie Valley Area, and this year we are even doing one
in the Winston Salem area. get yourself into one of the club near you (I can
help you find which one would be closest to you). The wealth of knowledge
that other club members have is unattainable anywhere else. If they are
anything like our club, they do tons of events, everything from the obvious
Wine & Cheese Party, to drives all around the area we live in (Charleston),
to overnighters, to weekenders. We even go to Drive In movies, although in
our state, we only have 2 working Drive In's left, and they usually end up
being overnighters. Its great fun though. Anyway, let me know where you are
located and I will get you in touch with the local club. trust me, you'll
enjoy the car a heck of a lot more when you find out that theres someone
there to help with your problems, share your joys of driving and hang out
with people who enjoy those little cars! It's great fun!



"BallroomDancer" > wrote in message
news:PqPNd.104901$Jk5.86495@lakeread01...
>
> "Bunny McElwee" > wrote in message
> ...
> Bunny - I can't help you that much with the cheeses - I personally like a
> sharp American cheese with red wines, but many people may not agree. I've
> been following this thread with interest - you have gotten a LOT of wisdom
> from some people I respect very much (and also some of the usual newsgroup
> highly opinianated people). I think your party will go very well.
> At any rate, my family has just joined the Miata crowd, my wife bought a
> used one Saturday. Both doors cannot be locked, either with key (turns but
> nothing happens), or from inside (what appears to be a slide doesn't) - I
> would expect maybe one door on a used vehicle to be a problem, but both? -
> any wisdom on this?
> We live in eastern NC, a bit far away to visit. If I were going, I'd carry

a
> nice German Riesling. Why? Well, first, I like them. Next, they are
> different, won't be just another Chard or Cab (though I like Cabs, too).
> I'll just end this by saying "Enjoy - have a good time of it."
>
> Jim
>
>



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"Bunny McElwee" > wrote in message
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> Yes, I absolutely got some very good information, I'm glad I came here
> because while I got a little bit more confused on the advice given to me,
> I
> got a lot of very good advice that I do plan to implement into my party. I
> think this party will be a ball and I know my members are very
> enthusiastic
> about this event as well.
>
> As for the Miata, what area exactly do you live in? There are several
> clubs in NC, as a matter of fact, we do regular events back and forth with
> at least 3 of them during the year. We also do events in NC, one in Deal's
> Gap area, one in the Maggie Valley Area, and this year we are even doing
> one
> in the Winston Salem area. get yourself into one of the club near you (I
> can
> help you find which one would be closest to you). The wealth of knowledge
> that other club members have is unattainable anywhere else. If they are
> anything like our club, they do tons of events, everything from the
> obvious
> Wine & Cheese Party, to drives all around the area we live in
> (Charleston),
> to overnighters, to weekenders. We even go to Drive In movies, although in
> our state, we only have 2 working Drive In's left, and they usually end up
> being overnighters. Its great fun though. Anyway, let me know where you
> are
> located and I will get you in touch with the local club. trust me, you'll
> enjoy the car a heck of a lot more when you find out that theres someone
> there to help with your problems, share your joys of driving and hang out
> with people who enjoy those little cars! It's great fun!

The three NC areas you gave are all in the western part of NC. We live in a
small community near New Bern, NC; about 45 miles from the coast, and
halfway up the state. On a map, it is at the intersection of US 17 & US 70.
I'm a member of the BMWCCA (I have a 328 conv), so I understand how helpful
a car club can be.
Jim


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Hmmm. How about Wilmington? Any closer to you? There's a club there as
well. Beyond that, I would have to ask the clubs in that area. And there
might be one in Virginia that could be close to you as well. You might want
to check out Miata.net if you haven't already. It's the site to go to for
answers, info and all kinds of great information. They also have a club list
on there, and you might be able to better judge how close one of them is to
you. Of course, you could just be in one of those areas where the nearest
club is 2 hours away. We have a couple members who come from Savannah GA and
Columbia SC, just because we are the closest thing to them.


The three NC areas you gave are all in the western part of NC. We live in a
> small community near New Bern, NC; about 45 miles from the coast, and
> halfway up the state. On a map, it is at the intersection of US 17 & US

70.
> I'm a member of the BMWCCA (I have a 328 conv), so I understand how

helpful
> a car club can be.
> Jim
>
>





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Bunny McElwee wrote:
>I would like to have a cheese platter, maybe three to four cheese
> varieties and along side it fruits (grapes, strawberries, etc) and
> crackers/breads. What are the best all around cheese's that any cheese
> platter should not be without? I know they should be served room temp, but I
> don't generally eat these kinds of cheese's so I don't know how to serve
> them? Rind on or off? Let them guest decide, or cut it off in advance? And
> suggestions on types of cheeses I should have that would likely be good ones
> to have on a platter of this kind, with the inclusion of people drinking
> wine? I understand that the wine & cheese thing does not always go together,
> I really am looking more for a good accompaniment of cheeses for people to
> nibble on and not necessarily for them to eat WITH their wine as a matched
> set.


Well, good all-around cheeses for wine are also ones that people can eat
on their own. Good choices are hard cheeses like Cheddar (not too
sharp), Manchego, Asiago and Gruyere. Depending on what your selection
is like, you might have to choose Cheddar and Swiss. Soft, stinky
cheeses are tougher to pair with wine, but maybe have one around for
those who like it. Soft goat cheeses won't go with red wine, but will
match OK with crisp white wines. Soft, non-stinky cheeses like Gouda,
Havarti, Fontina and Monterey Jack are pretty mild in flavor and could
go well with a variety of wines. Blue cheeses are the most difficult to
pair with wine. I'd leave the rind on the cheeses and allow your guests
decide if they want the rind. In the end, experiment and see what
people like. No one will be forced to eat a cheese that they don't
enjoy, after all. Most fruit doesn't do much for wine, but they're
tasty and good for you, so who cares? ;-)

> Also, any ideas of other "wine/Italian" type dishes I could serve or no
> Wine party should be without? I want to keep this to mainly finger type
> foods, but I want there to be enough to eat that people won't be falling
> over drunk everywhere after they've had a couple glasses. I was think some
> stuffed globe grapes with goat cheese and crushed pistachios, bruschetta,
> nuts, parmesan puff pastry sticks, maybe some squares of simple cheesecake.
> This doesn't sound substantial enough to really fill the belly. I'd like to
> do something with chicken, maybe some marinated chunks of chicken thighs on
> skewers, but not sure what type of marinade to use at this point.


I think that the cheese straws and nuts (if you get almonds or
pistachios) are excellent, wine-friendly snacks. The stuffed grapes
sound tasty and would probably go well with white wines. If the
bruschetta include fresh tomatoes, that's a problem for wine, but you
could easily put pesto on your bruschetta or simply cheese and be fine.
The grilled chicken skewers sounds like a nice idea and should go well
with most wines. Prosciuto-wrapped melon is also a classic. You could
also put out some antipasti, including salami or other Italian sausages
sliced thinly. They could be placed on bread for a heartier finger
food. Most any good bread or cracker would do nicely.

> Anyway, hopefully some of you kind people who have been helping me with
> this can give me some suggestions on some more suitable foods to provide my
> guest. My original post stated 20 people, I am now looking at 30-40 guests.


The main thing is to have a selection of foods that will offer a flavor
for anyone and for any wine. It's all about having fun, after all.

HTH
Mark Lipton
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WONDERFUL information! Exactly what I was looking for. You gave me a
place to start and answered several of my questions. I'll leave the
Bruschetta for another time as it would indeed include fresh tomato. Sounds
like I am on the right track for the other items and thanks for the extra
suggestions, I greatly appreciate all the help. Maybe some others will chime
in with some other suggestions.

Thanks again!




"Mark Lipton" > wrote in message
...
> Bunny McElwee wrote:
> >I would like to have a cheese platter, maybe three to four cheese
> > varieties and along side it fruits (grapes, strawberries, etc) and
> > crackers/breads. What are the best all around cheese's that any cheese
> > platter should not be without? I know they should be served room temp,

but I
> > don't generally eat these kinds of cheese's so I don't know how to serve
> > them? Rind on or off? Let them guest decide, or cut it off in advance?

And
> > suggestions on types of cheeses I should have that would likely be good

ones
> > to have on a platter of this kind, with the inclusion of people drinking
> > wine? I understand that the wine & cheese thing does not always go

together,
> > I really am looking more for a good accompaniment of cheeses for people

to
> > nibble on and not necessarily for them to eat WITH their wine as a

matched
> > set.

>
> Well, good all-around cheeses for wine are also ones that people can eat
> on their own. Good choices are hard cheeses like Cheddar (not too
> sharp), Manchego, Asiago and Gruyere. Depending on what your selection
> is like, you might have to choose Cheddar and Swiss. Soft, stinky
> cheeses are tougher to pair with wine, but maybe have one around for
> those who like it. Soft goat cheeses won't go with red wine, but will
> match OK with crisp white wines. Soft, non-stinky cheeses like Gouda,
> Havarti, Fontina and Monterey Jack are pretty mild in flavor and could
> go well with a variety of wines. Blue cheeses are the most difficult to
> pair with wine. I'd leave the rind on the cheeses and allow your guests
> decide if they want the rind. In the end, experiment and see what
> people like. No one will be forced to eat a cheese that they don't
> enjoy, after all. Most fruit doesn't do much for wine, but they're
> tasty and good for you, so who cares? ;-)
>
> > Also, any ideas of other "wine/Italian" type dishes I could serve or

no
> > Wine party should be without? I want to keep this to mainly finger type
> > foods, but I want there to be enough to eat that people won't be falling
> > over drunk everywhere after they've had a couple glasses. I was think

some
> > stuffed globe grapes with goat cheese and crushed pistachios,

bruschetta,
> > nuts, parmesan puff pastry sticks, maybe some squares of simple

cheesecake.
> > This doesn't sound substantial enough to really fill the belly. I'd like

to
> > do something with chicken, maybe some marinated chunks of chicken thighs

on
> > skewers, but not sure what type of marinade to use at this point.

>
> I think that the cheese straws and nuts (if you get almonds or
> pistachios) are excellent, wine-friendly snacks. The stuffed grapes
> sound tasty and would probably go well with white wines. If the
> bruschetta include fresh tomatoes, that's a problem for wine, but you
> could easily put pesto on your bruschetta or simply cheese and be fine.
> The grilled chicken skewers sounds like a nice idea and should go well
> with most wines. Prosciuto-wrapped melon is also a classic. You could
> also put out some antipasti, including salami or other Italian sausages
> sliced thinly. They could be placed on bread for a heartier finger
> food. Most any good bread or cracker would do nicely.
>
> > Anyway, hopefully some of you kind people who have been helping me

with
> > this can give me some suggestions on some more suitable foods to provide

my
> > guest. My original post stated 20 people, I am now looking at 30-40

guests.
>
> The main thing is to have a selection of foods that will offer a flavor
> for anyone and for any wine. It's all about having fun, after all.
>
> HTH
> Mark Lipton



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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:09:07 -0800, Mark Lipton >
wrote:

>
>Well, good all-around cheeses for wine are also ones that people can eat
>on their own. Good choices are hard cheeses like Cheddar (not too
>sharp), Manchego, Asiago and Gruyere. Depending on what your selection
>is like, you might have to choose Cheddar and Swiss. Soft, stinky
>cheeses are tougher to pair with wine, but maybe have one around for
>those who like it. Soft goat cheeses won't go with red wine, but will
>match OK with crisp white wines. Soft, non-stinky cheeses like Gouda,
>Havarti, Fontina and Monterey Jack are pretty mild in flavor and could
>go well with a variety of wines. Blue cheeses are the most difficult to
>pair with wine. I'd leave the rind on the cheeses and allow your guests
>decide if they want the rind. In the end, experiment and see what
>people like. No one will be forced to eat a cheese that they don't
>enjoy, after all. Most fruit doesn't do much for wine, but they're
>tasty and good for you, so who cares? ;-)
>
>I think that the cheese straws and nuts (if you get almonds or
>pistachios) are excellent, wine-friendly snacks. The stuffed grapes
>sound tasty and would probably go well with white wines. If the
>bruschetta include fresh tomatoes, that's a problem for wine, but you
>could easily put pesto on your bruschetta or simply cheese and be fine.
> The grilled chicken skewers sounds like a nice idea and should go well
>with most wines. Prosciuto-wrapped melon is also a classic. You could
>also put out some antipasti, including salami or other Italian sausages
>sliced thinly. They could be placed on bread for a heartier finger
>food. Most any good bread or cracker would do nicely.
>
>The main thing is to have a selection of foods that will offer a flavor
>for anyone and for any wine. It's all about having fun, after all.
>
>HTH
>Mark Lipton


Good thoughts, particularly the last one!

One of my favorite events with my wife and another couple that we've
known for more than 25 years is a picnic in which we start by visiting
a local bakery, a gourmet deli and our own wine cellars. Then we head
to the mountains seeking a scenic, quiet place to enjoy the day. We've
done this regularly in summer, and for the last eight years in winter
with our annual MLK day winter picnic celebrating the remarkably
temperate winters we have in Colorado in January.

The bakery offers us a couple of breads--usually a batard, a European
rye and maybe something a bit exotic like an asiago crusted or a
six-grain.

The deli has us each pulling some choices like which almost always
include a pate--sometimes rough, sometimes smooth; a salami sliced
thinly and then some other meat such as an air-dried ham (Serrano,
Black Forest, Prosciutto, etc.) And cheeses which usually include a
bleu (I'm usually the instigator of this one) like Gorgonzola, Stilton
or Saga Bleu; a creamy like brie or camembert, and something else
which might on any given outing be herbed or creamy or aged--Boursin,
havarti, cheddar, or something suggested by the deli. (I will admit
that none of the four of us is into goat!)

We will usually bring four reds and a white. There's no specifics, no
prices, no varietal, no origin specified. We bring what we think will
be pleasant for the day. The white usually comes out first as an
aperitif with some convesation. Then we spread the goodies and enjoy
the wines. We talk about the wines, the food, the weather, the people
we know, the places we've been, the events in our lives, and whatever
comes up. Often we run out of appetite before we run out of wine and
then (heaven forbid) we sit under a tree on a pleasant sunny day and
sip and talk some more.

I've learned about a lot of wines that I wouldn't have purchased on my
own. I've learned that I like red better than white (but I don't
dislike white). I've learned that my bleu cheeses might not like a
Pinot Noir or Petite Syrah, but go quite nicely with a Rhone or a
Piedmont red. I've learned that pate might or might not make it with a
wine. And, I've learned about a lot of canyons, lakes and forests in
my region that are great spots to visit.

But, the point of the entire tirade is that good company and good wine
are the finest accompaniments to a full life.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
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In article >, says...
>
>Bunny McElwee wrote:
>>I would like to have a cheese platter, maybe three to four cheese
>> varieties and along side it fruits (grapes, strawberries, etc) and
>> crackers/breads. What are the best all around cheese's that any cheese
>> platter should not be without? I know they should be served room temp, but

I
>> don't generally eat these kinds of cheese's so I don't know how to serve
>> them? Rind on or off? Let them guest decide, or cut it off in advance? And
>> suggestions on types of cheeses I should have that would likely be good

ones
>> to have on a platter of this kind, with the inclusion of people drinking
>> wine? I understand that the wine & cheese thing does not always go

together,
>> I really am looking more for a good accompaniment of cheeses for people to
>> nibble on and not necessarily for them to eat WITH their wine as a matched
>> set.

>
>Well, good all-around cheeses for wine are also ones that people can eat
>on their own. Good choices are hard cheeses like Cheddar (not too
>sharp), Manchego, Asiago and Gruyere. Depending on what your selection
>is like, you might have to choose Cheddar and Swiss. Soft, stinky
>cheeses are tougher to pair with wine, but maybe have one around for
>those who like it. Soft goat cheeses won't go with red wine, but will
>match OK with crisp white wines. Soft, non-stinky cheeses like Gouda,
>Havarti, Fontina and Monterey Jack are pretty mild in flavor and could
>go well with a variety of wines. Blue cheeses are the most difficult to
>pair with wine. I'd leave the rind on the cheeses and allow your guests
>decide if they want the rind. In the end, experiment and see what
>people like. No one will be forced to eat a cheese that they don't
>enjoy, after all. Most fruit doesn't do much for wine, but they're
>tasty and good for you, so who cares? ;-)
>
>> Also, any ideas of other "wine/Italian" type dishes I could serve or no
>> Wine party should be without? I want to keep this to mainly finger type
>> foods, but I want there to be enough to eat that people won't be falling
>> over drunk everywhere after they've had a couple glasses. I was think some
>> stuffed globe grapes with goat cheese and crushed pistachios, bruschetta,
>> nuts, parmesan puff pastry sticks, maybe some squares of simple cheesecake.
>> This doesn't sound substantial enough to really fill the belly. I'd like to
>> do something with chicken, maybe some marinated chunks of chicken thighs on
>> skewers, but not sure what type of marinade to use at this point.

>
>I think that the cheese straws and nuts (if you get almonds or
>pistachios) are excellent, wine-friendly snacks. The stuffed grapes
>sound tasty and would probably go well with white wines. If the
>bruschetta include fresh tomatoes, that's a problem for wine, but you
>could easily put pesto on your bruschetta or simply cheese and be fine.
> The grilled chicken skewers sounds like a nice idea and should go well
>with most wines. Prosciuto-wrapped melon is also a classic. You could
>also put out some antipasti, including salami or other Italian sausages
>sliced thinly. They could be placed on bread for a heartier finger
>food. Most any good bread or cracker would do nicely.
>
>> Anyway, hopefully some of you kind people who have been helping me with
>> this can give me some suggestions on some more suitable foods to provide my
>> guest. My original post stated 20 people, I am now looking at 30-40 guests.

>
>The main thing is to have a selection of foods that will offer a flavor
>for anyone and for any wine. It's all about having fun, after all.
>
>HTH
>Mark Lipton


I'll agree with Mark on these recommendations and add, but a few:

1.) you'll probably get a Chardonnay, or two - I like a room temp double-creme
Brie with these. I'm not a rind person (I think Brie's rind tastes of amonia),
but leave it on, and let people serve themselves.

2.) you'll probably get a young Cab, or two - walnuts seem to go well with
these, as they are *usually* more tannic, than the wine, and when eaten with a
young Cab, make the wine seem softer.

3.) if you get a Sangiovese (Chianti, or similar), the bruchetta with tomatoes
should pair very nicely, as Sangiovese loves acid in the accompanying food.

4.) if you get a Port, do bring out the Maytag/Stilton blues and serve at the
end of the meal (again, those walnuts will go just fine there).

Hunt

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