Hello;
Read about this in Decanter where it was lauded as a good buy at an
interesting price - found it in Kjaer & Sommerfdeldt and the saleman nodded
savagely when I remarked to Xina that I had heard good things about it.
[c] pale, yellow, more color than a young Mosel
[n] somewhat dusty, powdered mineral, white flowers, yellow fruit (medium
heavy soil if it were in ALsace)
[p] a bit heavy, acidity clumsy, not good length, no residual sweetness.
At DKK 79, a bit of a disappointment. I buy better entry level Rieslings in
a similar, alcohol heavy style in Alsace. Note of interest: Stelvin closure.

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren wrote:
> Hello;
> Read about this in Decanter where it was lauded as a good buy at an
> interesting price - found it in Kjaer & Sommerfdeldt and the saleman nodded
> savagely when I remarked to Xina that I had heard good things about it.
> [c] pale, yellow, more color than a young Mosel
> [n] somewhat dusty, powdered mineral, white flowers, yellow fruit (medium
> heavy soil if it were in ALsace)
> [p] a bit heavy, acidity clumsy, not good length, no residual sweetness.
> At DKK 79, a bit of a disappointment. I buy better entry level Rieslings in
> a similar, alcohol heavy style in Alsace. Note of interest: Stelvin closure.
>

Hello Nils,

I have no idea how much DKK 79 is, but here Peter Lehmann would go for
about $AU12 RRP. But you would get it even cheaper in various shops.
Which is really dirt cheap.

I have not had the riesling [I've seen it in shops, and it looks quite
tasty], but the semillion is quite drinkable, as is the grenache shiraz
and shiraz. I forget which vintages, I really should write this stuff
down. In fact I've heard few bad words said about anything from Peter
Lehmann.

Halliday 2005 [Australian equivalent of Parker] gave the 2003 Riesling
86/100. So quite drinkable but nothing special.

I recall a few Australian rieslings being bandied about. Even the
Jacbo's Creek riesling is supposed to be quite good. I think with
riesling you tend to get more bang for your buck.

In the same edition of Halliday is the 1998 Eden Valley Reserve Riesling
[a Peter Lehmann], at $AU24 [again cheaper found around]. "The bouquet
is literally jam-packed with apple, lime, mineral and toast, the palate
similarly rich and flooded ; great balance and complexity. Top 100 2003.
Rating: 95. Drink: 2008.


I personally am developing quite a curiosity for riesling. If you want
me to name name's on Halliday's top Australian rieslings just let me know.


Mat.

P.S.: I just checked on Orlando Jacob's Creek rieslings, and they make a
few, and they are all quite drinkable apparently. And all quite
affordable. And Orlando is a huge exporter.

"Nils Gustaf Lindgren" > wrote in message
...
> Hello;
> Read about this in Decanter where it was lauded as a good buy at an
> interesting price - found it in Kjaer & Sommerfdeldt and the saleman
> nodded savagely when I remarked to Xina that I had heard good things about
> it.
> [c] pale, yellow, more color than a young Mosel
> [n] somewhat dusty, powdered mineral, white flowers, yellow fruit (medium
> heavy soil if it were in ALsace)
> [p] a bit heavy, acidity clumsy, not good length, no residual sweetness.
> At DKK 79, a bit of a disappointment. I buy better entry level Rieslings
> in a similar, alcohol heavy style in Alsace. Note of interest: Stelvin
> closure.


Hi Nils
I haven't tried the 2003 but the 2004 Peter Lehmann Barossa Riesling is
fantastic. My notes - "Bright straw colour, with green hue. Initial nose of
lime, followed by floral & spice. The lime flavours are evident on the
palate which is followed by a distinct lemon back palate. Crisp acid finish.
Long lime, lemon aftertaste. Outstanding value, 6 Years to best." I paid $9
Oz for this wine and was very happy. The 2004 Eden Valley Riesling is also
very good. It has the citrus thing going on but some sweet orange and orange
blossom, a little more floral and more restrained acid, best in 3 to 4 years
I would think. This was about $12 Oz, also excellent value. These wines tend
to offer very good fresh crisp drinking whilst young (no RS) and develop
lovely complexity and intensity with 5 to 8 years bottle age. I am currently
drinking some Peter L Rieslings from 99 and they are coming along
delightfully. The 99's are still in cork but everything I have from 2000
onwards is in stelvin. In fact you would be hard pressed to find a cork
closure in any of the Eden or Clare Valley Rieslings from 2002 onwards. I am
a HUGE Riesling fan and always have at least 6 or 7 dozen slowly gaining
some real depth and interest in the Cellar. I just brought a box of 2004
Stumpy Gully Riesling for that exact purpose, I look forward to drinking it
in around 2012.
Cheers Andrew

Andrew Goldfinch wrote:

> "Nils Gustaf Lindgren" > wrote in message

>
> Hi Nils
> I haven't tried the 2003 but the 2004 Peter Lehmann Barossa Riesling is
> fantastic. My notes - "Bright straw colour, with green hue. Initial nose of
> lime, followed by floral & spice. The lime flavours are evident on the
> palate which is followed by a distinct lemon back palate. Crisp acid finish.
> Long lime, lemon aftertaste. Outstanding value, 6 Years to best." I paid $9
> Oz for this wine and was very happy. The 2004 Eden Valley Riesling is also
> very good. It has the citrus thing going on but some sweet orange and orange
> blossom, a little more floral and more restrained acid, best in 3 to 4 years
> I would think. This was about $12 Oz, also excellent value. These wines tend
> to offer very good fresh crisp drinking whilst young (no RS) and develop
> lovely complexity and intensity with 5 to 8 years bottle age. I am currently
> drinking some Peter L Rieslings from 99 and they are coming along
> delightfully. The 99's are still in cork but everything I have from 2000
> onwards is in stelvin. In fact you would be hard pressed to find a cork
> closure in any of the Eden or Clare Valley Rieslings from 2002 onwards. I am
> a HUGE Riesling fan and always have at least 6 or 7 dozen slowly gaining
> some real depth and interest in the Cellar. I just brought a box of 2004
> Stumpy Gully Riesling for that exact purpose, I look forward to drinking it
> in around 2012.
> Cheers Andrew
>
>

Hello Andrew,

You've gotsta be quick around here!

There are a number of rieslings on special over at [need I say it?] Dan
Murphy's this week: http://danmurphys.com.au/03-vic/dm_240205_vic.pdf

Most of them are really just quaffers. I think the Pikes is probably the
pick of the bunch and should keep for a few years. And maybe the Wynn's.

Riesling is really quite cheap comparatively I think.

I tend to shop off the Dan's specials list as the prices can vary quite
wildly as they do price matching. From day to day. And they never had
RRP or save "$x" on the price tickets in store.


Riesling has never really taken off here in Oz has it? I find that a bit
suprising as so many grape geeks, writers etc etc love it to death.



Mat.

"Mat" <Ask@me> skrev i meddelandet ...
> Nils Gustaf Lindgren wrote:
>> Hello;
>> Read about this in Decanter where it was lauded as a good buy at an
>> interesting price - found it in Kjaer & Sommerfdeldt and the saleman
>> nodded savagely when I remarked to Xina that I had heard good things
>> about it.
>> [c] pale, yellow, more color than a young Mosel
>> [n] somewhat dusty, powdered mineral, white flowers, yellow fruit (medium
>> heavy soil if it were in ALsace)
>> [p] a bit heavy, acidity clumsy, not good length, no residual sweetness.
>> At DKK 79, a bit of a disappointment. I buy better entry level Rieslings
>> in a similar, alcohol heavy style in Alsace. Note of interest: Stelvin
>> closure.
>>
>
> Hello Nils,
>
> I have no idea how much DKK 79 is, but here Peter Lehmann would go for
> about $AU12 RRP. But you would get it even cheaper in various shops. Which
> is really dirt cheap.
>
> I have not had the riesling [I've seen it in shops, and it looks quite
> tasty], but the semillion is quite drinkable, as is the grenache shiraz
> and shiraz. I forget which vintages, I really should write this stuff
> down. In fact I've heard few bad words said about anything from Peter
> Lehmann.
>
> Halliday 2005 [Australian equivalent of Parker] gave the 2003 Riesling
> 86/100. So quite drinkable but nothing special.

Exactly. Normally I´d expect a better product from Peter LEhman - I have
enjoyed lots of his offerings, inlcuding some of the more high-endian, but
also the entry-level (Weighbridge) line.

I don´t know how much an Oz $ is - DKK 79 is SEK 100 is c. EU 11 is c. USD
14 ...

Cheers

Nils Gustaf

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren wrote:


>>
>>I have no idea how much DKK 79 is, but here Peter Lehmann would go for
>>about $AU12 RRP. But you would get it even cheaper in various shops. Which
>>is really dirt cheap.
>>
>>I have not had the riesling [I've seen it in shops, and it looks quite
>>tasty], but the semillion is quite drinkable, as is the grenache shiraz
>>and shiraz. I forget which vintages, I really should write this stuff
>>down. In fact I've heard few bad words said about anything from Peter
>>Lehmann.
>>
>>Halliday 2005 [Australian equivalent of Parker] gave the 2003 Riesling
>>86/100. So quite drinkable but nothing special.
>
>
> Exactly. Normally I´d expect a better product from Peter LEhman - I have
> enjoyed lots of his offerings, inlcuding some of the more high-endian, but
> also the entry-level (Weighbridge) line.
>
> I don´t know how much an Oz $ is - DKK 79 is SEK 100 is c. EU 11 is c. USD
> 14 ...
>
> Cheers
>
> Nils Gustaf
>

Well DKK is the kroner I've just discovered.

Hello Denmark! Another country I'd quite like to visit. I've heard
nothing but great things about the Danes.

79.00 DKK
Denmark Kroner = 17.8123 AUD
Australia Dollars
1 DKK = 0.225472 AUD 1 AUD = 4.43513 DKK

http://www.xe.com/ucc/


You're paying about $7AU+ [31 DKK] more than we would get it here for at
a cheaper shop.


Mat.

"Mat" <Ask@me> skrev i melding ...
>
> Hello Denmark! Another country I'd quite like to visit. I've heard nothing
> but great things about the Danes.
>
Hi
Actually, Nils lives in Sweden, but a mere 20 minutes from Denmark by ferry,
I've gathered :-) Cheap wines are cheaper in Denmark than in Sweden so
that'd explain his paying in DKK instead of SEK.
Anders

"Mat" <Ask@me> skrev i melding ...
>
> Hello Denmark! Another country I'd quite like to visit. I've heard nothing
> but great things about the Danes.
>
Hi
Actually, Nils lives in Sweden, but a mere 20 minutes from Denmark by ferry,
I've gathered :-) Cheap wines are cheaper in Denmark than in Sweden so
that'd explain his paying in DKK instead of SEK.
Anders

Anders Tørneskog wrote:

> "Mat" <Ask@me> skrev i melding ...
>
>>Hello Denmark! Another country I'd quite like to visit. I've heard nothing
>>but great things about the Danes.
>>
>
> Hi
> Actually, Nils lives in Sweden, but a mere 20 minutes from Denmark by ferry,
> I've gathered :-) Cheap wines are cheaper in Denmark than in Sweden so
> that'd explain his paying in DKK instead of SEK.
> Anders
>
>


Hello,

Let's just say Scandanavia then!


Mat.

"Anders Tørneskog" > skrev i meddelandet
...
>
> "Mat" <Ask@me> skrev i melding ...
>>
>> Hello Denmark! Another country I'd quite like to visit. I've heard
>> nothing but great things about the Danes.
>>
> Hi
> Actually, Nils lives in Sweden, but a mere 20 minutes from Denmark by
> ferry, I've gathered :-) Cheap wines are cheaper in Denmark than in
> Sweden so that'd explain his paying in DKK instead of SEK.


Yes, they do like it when I pay in Danish currency ... but i suppose I could
get away with EU too

Nils Gustaf

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Andrew Goldfinch wrote:
> "Nils Gustaf Lindgren" > wrote in message

>
>
> Hi Nils
> I haven't tried the 2003 but the 2004 Peter Lehmann Barossa Riesling is
> fantastic. My notes - "Bright straw colour, with green hue. Initial nose of
> lime, followed by floral & spice. The lime flavours are evident on the
> palate which is followed by a distinct lemon back palate. Crisp acid finish.
> Long lime, lemon aftertaste. Outstanding value, 6 Years to best." I paid $9
> Oz for this wine and was very happy. The 2004 Eden Valley Riesling is also
> very good. It has the citrus thing going on but some sweet orange and orange
> blossom, a little more floral and more restrained acid, best in 3 to 4 years
> I would think. This was about $12 Oz, also excellent value. These wines tend
> to offer very good fresh crisp drinking whilst young (no RS) and develop
> lovely complexity and intensity with 5 to 8 years bottle age. I am currently
> drinking some Peter L Rieslings from 99 and they are coming along
> delightfully. The 99's are still in cork but everything I have from 2000
> onwards is in stelvin. In fact you would be hard pressed to find a cork
> closure in any of the Eden or Clare Valley Rieslings from 2002 onwards. I am
> a HUGE Riesling fan and always have at least 6 or 7 dozen slowly gaining
> some real depth and interest in the Cellar. I just brought a box of 2004
> Stumpy Gully Riesling for that exact purpose, I look forward to drinking it
> in around 2012.
> Cheers Andrew
>
>

Hello,

Further to the thread, I'm going out for an Indian's tonight, so I
thought I'd buy some versatile wines. Beer is probably best, but you know...

So, I got the 2004 Peter Lehmann Barossa Riesling 2004 [$AU9.95], Peter
Lehmann Eden Valley Riesling 2004 [$AU12.99] [they had the 2002 on
display, but I had to ask for the 2004 which was lucky, [younger and
fresher], and the girl said "O the 2004 is a much better vintage" , and
I said "Yeah, and rieslings tend to go dead in the bottle after a few
years" to which she looked at me stupidly.] :-\

O, and the Windy Peak Pinot Noir 2004 [$AU11.95]. "That is actually
great value" she said, when I asked for the Miranda Park Pinot Noir,
they do not have, she could not remember why, and I said "I'll just go
cheap and get the Windy Peak then".

I love Dan Murphy's. They had all the latest Penfold's out. Heaps of end
of bin cheapies. Heaps of cellar releases. Had a quick look through
Wines of The World and was very tempted to get the Dr. Loosen riesling.
Or there were some gewurtztraminers, even in the domestic {Australian}
section.


I got the two Peter Lehmanns to see what differences exist etc.

I'm also taking along a bottle of O'Leary Walker 2002 Pinot Noir, which
was quite delicious last time I had it. Lovely velvety texture.

And a couple of shirazes. There are only four of us, so I guess I'll
have to pair it down to the two rieslings and something red. 2001
Encounter Bay [Norman's], Brown's Of Padthaway [2001] and Robertson's
Well Coonawarra 2000.


I'm quite looking forward to my selection. And they do an awesome
chicken mumtaz. And firey vinaloo for that matter.

Mat.