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WINE & SPIRITS Who's killing the great wines of France? Facing a crisis, the French wine industry is finally forced to loosen its grasp on tradition. By Corie Brown Times Staff Writer March 2, 2005 The notion that French wine has fallen into the hands of philistines is sure to find an audience when the documentary "Mondovino" is released in L.A. theaters April 29. Director Jonathan Nossiter belabors that idea for two hours, 17 minutes and 11 seconds, cutting back and forth between crusty traditionalists in worn sweaters and suspendered trousers who absolutely love terroir and their spiritual opposites: chain-smoking pragmatists in fancy cars who hawk modern methods of manipulating wine. "Mondovino" is a lot of things; subtle, however, isn't one of them. The French wine industry is in crisis. More comfortable basking in tradition than questioning it, French winemakers are rethinking the rules governing how they make and name their wines, the grapes they grow and how they are grown. Even the look of their wine labels is being reconsidered. The French government is scrambling to promote its wines in America, even gasp considering a Madison Avenue advertising campaign. (Champagne already has one, and it's the one French region for which sales are actually climbing.) The debate central to "Mondovino" one that's raging across France's storied wine regions only appears to be a tug of war between art and commerce. Those stark contrasts grow fuzzy in the gray light of the real issue: The world is not buying enough French wine. Market forces aren't known for encouraging individuality Velveeta sells better than Taleggio. But for the first time in the history of French wine, the demands of the global market are an unavoidable fact. "It has taken a while for our producers to understand that there is a problem," says Christian Berger, the agricultural counselor with the French Embassy in Washington, D.C. And even now that they have accepted that fact, "there is no unanimity at all on what should be done." Wine looms large on the French economic landscape. Representing 12% of France's agricultural production, it accounts for $9.9 billion of the country's gross domestic product. French wine sales worldwide have been gradually eroding for years. The situation became a crisis last year when wine exports (excluding Champagne) fell 6.7% in volume and 9.2% in value on the heels of 2003 sales, which were considered dismal, according to the French Federation of Exporters of Wines & Spirits. Making matters worse, French wine consumption has dropped to historic lows, with the country drinking half as much wine per capita as it did in 1960. An aggressive federal campaign against drunk driving is part of the reason, according to Berger. Strict new standards, more stringent than those in California, have the French thinking twice before having a second glass of wine with dinner. But the real problem is there's too much French wine. Hoping for a quick fix in the region that appears to be hardest hit, the government is paying grape growers in Bordeaux to rip up marginal vineyards and turn surplus wine into industrial alcohol. So far, however, only 475 acres of a targeted 25,000 acres of vineyards have been plowed under. The government plans to distill a whopping 250 million liters of wine from the abundant 2004 vintage into alcohol, 10 times as much wine as would be distilled in a typical year; most of it is labeled Appellation d'Origine Contrle (AOC). Still, it won't be enough to sop up all of the surplus. * Altering the structure Ultimately, it is the structure of the wine industry that must change, according to Ren Renou, a Loire Valley winemaker and the current president of the powerful National Committee for Wine of the AOC, the organization charged with enforcing the country's strict regulations for the making of premium wines. Renou has proposed a radical overhaul of the country's winemaking rules the most sweeping changes since the AOC was codified in 1929 to give winemakers greater latitude in how they make and sell their wines. "People say I am burning the history of France," quips Renou. But perhaps the better analogy is religion, he says, "like when they changed the way the priest says Mass," referring to the Catholic Church's decision to abandon Latin for modern languages in the 1960s. French wine sales are suffering, he says, because France has failed to modernize its winemaking industry. Renou advocates producing less AOC wine. Perhaps 10% of it isn't up to minimum standards, he says. "We can't anymore tell the nice wine story to people and not have it correspond to what is in the bottle," he says. When pressed about how much wine he'd like to see taken off the market, Renou backpedals. "We're France. If you push too far, winegrowers will riot. They go on strike and shout in the streets. The politicians don't like it." While there is no formal schedule for considering Renou's proposal, he says the French government could enact it as early as this year. It likely will take longer. "France acts as if it still has a monopoly on wine and can insist that consumers learn our complicated wine story," says Renou. "We have lived for centuries where the only problem was to make the wine producer more comfortable. Today our problem is to make the customer more comfortable. They buy whatever they like." And they are buying American, Australian, Chilean, Argentine and South African wines along with improved wines from Spain and Italy. For $10, these wines may not equal fine French wine, says Renou, but they can be very good. And from the point of view of the American consumer Renou likes to refer to a grocery store shopper in Little Rock, Ark. they are infinitely easier to comprehend. "A second way to understand wine has been created by the New World. It's about the grape type, the color, the sugar," he explains. In other words, it's easier to understand Pinot Noir than to memorize the appellations of Burgundy. "In Little Rock, wine is a quick, immediate pleasure, no dream, no story, no explanation. The New World is more efficient. The French are not prepared for this world," he says. America matters because the U.S. spends more money on imported wine than does any other market in the world. And while French wine sales have fallen in America, overall consumption here is inching up. Americans now annually consume roughly 10 bottles of wine each, up from seven bottles 10 years ago. Compared with the French, who drink an average of 77 bottles a year, there is plenty of room for the American market to grow. The falling value of the dollar a 40% shift over the last three years is making the American market more and more difficult to navigate. What was a $10 bottle of French wine in 2001 now costs $14, taking into account the shifting exchange rate. Wines from outside Europe haven't experienced the same currency fluctuation, or the resulting price increases. Most French vintners have cut their prices to try to keep their wines competitively priced, according to American importers. But often that's not enough. "With the 2000 vintage, I sold thousands of cases of Bordeaux wine for $7 a bottle," says Steve Winfield, a Los Angeles-based importer who sells only Bordeaux wines. "I'm scouting for wines with the 2003 vintage that I can sell for $7, and they are hard to find. Everyone's margins are squeezed." There is no crisis for the best French wines, says Berger. "At the top of the market, prices are a bit crazy, rising higher and higher every year with no problem selling the wine. The difficulty is for the middle and lower end segments. The global market for wine is more competitive there. There are plenty of new producers." And for these wines, America is the most important market. "The bulk of the market is new to wine," says Berger. "They don't know much about it, and they apparently like wines that are fruity with a lot of sugar. Our product is not as well suited to this market as, say, Australian wine. French wine is more subtle. We have no big brands. Our labels are difficult to read." Bordeaux winemakers, says Berger, have been the most outspoken critics of the changes proposed by Renou. After record sales of its celebrated 2000 vintage, "it has been hard for them to come down to earth," says Berger. "The situation is very tense in Bordeaux." * Two branches of AOC? Renou has proposed bifurcating the AOC into a higher and a lower level, or, he says, they can be considered "the complex and the simple." A new "excellence" category would require winemakers to follow more stringent controls on wine grape growing and winemaking than current AOC rules demand. The top 20% of current AOC winemakers likely would opt for this "excellence" category, Renou estimates. This is the luxury market for traditional wines, and "it must be protected," he says. A second level of AOC wines, what Renou refers to as "normal" wines, would be allowed to disregard many of the current AOC rules. These are the ones that must compete with emerging international wines, he says. Winemakers who opt for this category should be allowed to consider any grape-growing and winemaking protocol. "Winemakers would propose their ideas to the National Committee for Wine, and we would decide if those ideas would be permitted," says Renou. "Everything is open for discussion, while today it is prohibited to even talk about these ideas." That means the question of when or how to irrigate vineyards or what grapes to plant variables that are tightly regulated now throughout France would be considered. There would be fewer restrictions on what grapes could be blended together in particular wines as well. While Bordeaux and Rhne blends would remain tightly controlled for the "excellence" AOC, second-tier wines could have broad latitude with what could be considered for their blends. In appellations in which blending is not now allowed, it would be permitted in the second tier. Rules also would be relaxed concerning blending grapes harvested from different parts of a region or even across regions, among other things, according to Renou. What about allowing the addition of oak chips during barrel aging to exaggerate certain flavors, as is practiced in the U.S. and Australia, for instance? "Why not?" says Renou. "We have to allow people to make decisions for themselves about their own wine." At the same time, Renou would like the French wine industry to police itself more aggressively on quality. Producers who ignore vineyard yield limits, a common occurrence today, says Renou, should not be allowed to call their wine AOC. This overproduction "must disappear," he says. "If we want to say we are the best, each bottle must be checked." Renou's proposal also would relax AOC labeling rules to allow varietal names and other New World conventions. While there are AOCs (such as Alsace) that use varietal labeling, most don't. Winemakers have to opt out of the AOC, labeling their wines simply vin de table, to do these things now. The French government isn't waiting for the AOC rules to change. It is taking small but significant first steps to help French producers sell their wines in the United States. "We didn't usually attend wine events in America," says Berger. "Now we are going, asking for advice on what we should do to improve sales. The idea is to give our producers a higher profile." Last month, the government sponsored its first five-city sales tour Miami, New York, Chicago, Atlanta and Los Angeles for producers eager to find American importers. It's the kind of dog and pony show the Spanish and Australian wine industries have been taking on the road for at least a decade. In Los Angeles, 30 vintners poured wine tastings for distributors. "We decided to be proactive," says Charlotte Selles-Simmons, a producer whose family has been making wine in Beaujolais and Burgundy since 1820. She recently redesigned the domaine's labels to make them more appealing to Americans. "We make it so difficult to buy French wine," she says. "Especially for the $10-and-below wines. Showing the varietal name on the labels at this price point is crucial. Then they don't have to get out their reading glasses, they don't have to ask for help." It's also about looking modern, she says. The bottle has to stand out, which isn't easy in a crowded grocery store wine aisle. New World wine regions have been doing it for years. Even Italy and Spain are sprucing up their labels. If you don't do it, there is no hope of creating a brand name that consumers will remember, Selles-Simmons says. Selles-Simmons sells her wines through Trader Joe's, but she would like to find a traditional distributor as well. The model for Selles-Simmons? E.& J. Gallo's Red Bicyclette. Gallo is showing us the way, says Berger. "Joe Gallo has the guts to believe in French wine, to put his money there to make something happen. We are very thankful for that," he says, noting that the Gallo wines produced in France are increasing the sales of French wine in America. Gallo, the savior of French wine? The chasm separating the French government from the traditional vintners in "Mondovino" just got a little wider. http://www.latimes.com/features/food...0,604988.story |
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![]() Tam wrote: > Los Angeles Times > WINE & SPIRITS > > Who's killing the great wines of France? > > Facing a crisis, the French wine industry is finally forced to loosen its > grasp on tradition. > Thanks for the link. It seems odd, though, that they don't make any mention of some peoples' decision to boycott anything French. Dan-O |
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"Dan The Man" > wrote: > > Tam wrote: > > Los Angeles Times > > WINE & SPIRITS > > > > Who's killing the great wines of France? > > > > Facing a crisis, the French wine industry is finally forced to loosen > its > > grasp on tradition. > > > > Thanks for the link. > It seems odd, though, that they don't make any mention of some peoples' > decision to boycott anything French. > > Dan-O > Presumably because it has made little difference to anything or because they think that it will be very short term. This is totally OT but I do not understand the boycott anyway. After all neither France nor the UK boycotted Americal goods because Eisenhower had a sulk and opposed the Suez operation. I speak as a supporter of getting rid of Saddam, whether or not he had WMD, but I dont see why the winegrowers or cheesemakers of France should be penalised for the activities of their government let alone why anyone should cut off their nose to spite their face in refusing to drink French wine. Timothy Hartley |
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![]() Timothy Hartley wrote: > In message .com> > "Dan The Man" > wrote: > > > > > Tam wrote: > > > Los Angeles Times > > > WINE & SPIRITS > > > > > > Who's killing the great wines of France? > > > > > > Facing a crisis, the French wine industry is finally forced to loosen > > its > > > grasp on tradition. > > > > > > > Thanks for the link. > > It seems odd, though, that they don't make any mention of some peoples' > > decision to boycott anything French. > > > > Dan-O > > > > Presumably because it has made little difference to anything or because > they think that it will be very short term. > > This is totally OT but I do not understand the boycott anyway. After all > neither France nor the UK boycotted Americal goods because Eisenhower had a > sulk and opposed the Suez operation. I speak as a supporter of getting rid > of Saddam, whether or not he had WMD, but I don't see why the winegrowers or > cheesemakers of France should be penalised for the activities of their > government - let alone why anyone should cut off their nose to spite their > face in refusing to drink French wine. > > > > Timothy Hartley I don't have any stats for you Timothy, but I have noticed that my local state-owned store has fewer "everyday" French wines than it used to. And I live in a "blue" state (Pennsylvania). I won't touch the politics of the boycott with a ten-foot pole. I did that last summer already, and it started a major flame-fest! As for the article itself, I suppose the writer may have been limited by space, a tight deadline, or (possibly) an anti-boycott editor. Mere speculation on my part. Dan-O |
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On 4 Mar 2005 09:15:58 -0800, "Dan The Man" >
wrote: >I don't have any stats for you Timothy, but I have noticed that my >local state-owned store has fewer "everyday" French wines than it used >to. And I live in a "blue" state (Pennsylvania). >I won't touch the politics of the boycott with a ten-foot pole. I did >that last summer already, and it started a major flame-fest! >As for the article itself, I suppose the writer may have been limited >by space, a tight deadline, or (possibly) an anti-boycott editor. Mere >speculation on my part. > >Dan-O You might be interested in visiting my blog and reading a piece I did about ten days ago called "Boycott Logic" which addresses just a few of the complexities of the boycott issue. The French wine problem is only peripherally effected by the boycott at this point IMHO, since most buyers of quality French wine are not into emotion-laden political payback and most intense boycotters aren't really going to be the regular spenders of big bucks on volume purchases of French wines. The current glut may have as much to do with over-inflated ratings by the likes of Laube, Suckling, Parker, et. al. and under-valued dollars against the euro as anything. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" www.thunderchief.org www.thundertales.blogspot.com |
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Ed Rasimus wrote:
> The French wine problem is only peripherally effected by the boycott > at this point IMHO, since most buyers of quality French wine are not > into emotion-laden political payback and most intense boycotters > aren't really going to be the regular spenders of big bucks on volume > purchases of French wines. I agree with you totally Ed. Boycotters in the US are not going to make a dent in sales. > The current glut may have as much to do with over-inflated ratings by > the likes of Laube, Suckling, Parker, et. al. and under-valued dollars > against the euro as anything. I think the 40% rise in 4 years of the euro against the dollar has put such a strain on the producers and imports and there is just not enough margin left to hold prices down. With a glut on all sides, domestic wines become a bargain. Bill |
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On 4 Mar 2005 09:15:58 -0800, "Dan The Man" > said:
[] ] ] I don't have any stats for you Timothy, but I have noticed that my ] local state-owned store has fewer "everyday" French wines than it used ] to. And I live in a "blue" state (Pennsylvania). ] I won't touch the politics of the boycott with a ten-foot pole. I did ] that last summer already, and it started a major flame-fest! ] As for the article itself, I suppose the writer may have been limited ] by space, a tight deadline, or (possibly) an anti-boycott editor. Mere ] speculation on my part. ] I meant to post this article before. It states that '04 sales of french cheese in the US is up 20% over 03, champagne up 4.5% www.iht.com/articles/2005/02/06/news/ties.html I don't think the boycott is anything more than a media issue. The consumer issue has to do with IMHO varietal labeling more than anything else. Also "new world" style wines in general seem well suited to "new world" cuisine, (vastly generalizing I know!) with its bold flavours. (FYI I'm an american, and I like "new world" cuisine a lot, even if my tastes in wine run towards the old world.) It is typically french to throw out everything good and emulate the market success of another rather than trying to stand and build on ones own strengths. In my view oak chips and over extraction are not the answer. Quality and traditional methods, with more transparence and simpler labeling are... -E -- Emery Davis You can reply to by removing the well known companies |
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![]() As has been noted, having the varietal on the bottle might help a lot. The French assume that you should just drink the wine and not care what the blend is, but that's not how American consumers think. I, personally, like to know how much petit verdot makes it into a Bordeaux blend I am drinking. I think less educated wine consumers don't realize that Burgundy is almost always pinot noir if its red and chardonnay if its not. Someone who likes merlot may not know what to buy and if you tell them Bordeaux they might still guess wrong when selecting a bottle. Sometimes even wine shop owners don't know for sure if a Bordeaux is merlot-based without pulling out a reference guide (yes, right bank/left bank but it's not always true!). Another issue is naming. I do not speak much French and so to me it is difficult to memorize the names of producers and chateaus. We all know Lafite, Leroy, and Beaucastel, but I know that I have a problem memorizing French names as compared to American counterparts simply because they are all so foreign-sounding to me. On top of it, one often has to know the name of the producer as well, because (as someone pointed out with Clos Vougeot) the winemaker is often more important than the vineyard. This presents a barrier to entry at the lower end of the market where wines like Columbia Crest and Gallo reside. Is Etienne Sauzet a man or a woman, how exactly does one pronounce Echezeaux, and why don't those darn grand crus list the village they are from on them? ![]() Also, there is an issue of quality. This is also tied to price, as in quality/price ratio. French wine can be very high quality, but there is an awful lot of bad wine produced and that is with only the best even being imported to the USA. The swill that stays in France can be even worse! At the top end French wine can still be a relative bargain, but at the middle and lower tier parts of the market it does not stand up well to the wine of Spain, California, and Australia. What's worse is that the wine in California (at least) seems to be getting better and better as new varietals are planted, growing regions are experimented with, winemaking and growing techniques are honed, and plant material is brought in from the Old World. At the same time, I see very little movement in France. Although there has been some, it is happening at the levels where good wine is already produced. It needs to happen at the village levels among the producers destined to make $10 wine. Finally, it helps wineries in California to have diverse lineups of good quality wines. For example, I went to Adelaida Cellars in Paso Robles last weekend. The best known wine is the Viking Reserve, which is a cabernet. Also fairly well known is the HMR pinot noir. However, while there I tried (and liked) their white Rhone blend (grenache blanc and rousanne). French winemakers often don't have that luxury of cross-selling. Even when a major negociant or conglomerate owns many different labels it is difficult to cross-sell them. Margaux makes a blanc in addition to the rouge, but its not always as easy to find. Imagine if Margaux also lent their name to a Rhone red, a pinot noir, and a riesling made with grapes from vineyards held by them, tended to their standards, and by their winemaker(s). It's how large wineries like Mondavi are able to leverage their good name into larger profits (and, often, produce some good wine in its own right). I've been to wineries with a lineup of 6-8 wines and debated which among those is the best with other tasters. Even though the best wine is often 'clearly' the signature wine, there is always someone in the room who just doesn't like that syrah and buys a bottle of the lowly zinfandel instead. Indeed, each of our palates is unique. Maybe American wine consumers who don't like Pavillon Blanc would really love Margaux's pinot gris at half the price, but we'll never find out with the current system. Dimitri |
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Timothy Hartley > wrote: > >The problem for Bordeaux is that the proportion of each varietal in the >bottle will vary from year to year although the vineyard is planted in the >same proportions. They are not making commercially blended wine which th >consumer can rely on to be the same like some places try to do. That is, >after all, part of the fascination and interest. Doe sit matter to the >less well educated consumer what is in the bottle? If it does he can >always look it up and begin his education. why must we always pander to the >lowest common denominator? Doing so has ruined so many areas of life, >whether it be manners or television, do we want that for wine? It would ruin the wine if they printed the blend used on the label on the back of the bottle? >Anyway what on earth is the advanatage of everybody being the same? >Why should the French, and those who love their wine, change a system which >works? If you read the original article you would see that it is not working. Dimitri |
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Greetings Dimitri;
> It would ruin the wine if they printed the blend used on the label on the back > of the bottle? Not for me it wouldn't.... I'm kinda interested. > > >Why should the French, and those who love their wine, change a system which > >works? > For them perhaps, but that's the point; they're trying to flog their product to the rest of us. > > > Dimitri > -- Regards Chuck So much wine; So little time! To reply, delete NOSPAM from return address |
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