I keep learning more new things about my e-mail software. For instance, all
I have to do is open an offensive post, then go to the kill file rule I set
up recently..... click on "add Criterion" and whaddaya know???.........One
more 'from' address in the kill file. Only takes a second.

Salut/Hi Midlife,

le/on Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:15:10 -0800, tu disais/you said:-

>I keep learning more new things about my e-mail software. For instance, all
>I have to do is open an offensive post, then go to the kill file rule I set
>up recently..... click on "add Criterion" and whaddaya know???.........One
>more 'from' address in the kill file. Only takes a second.

It'sa even easier than that with my newsreader. When I see some childish
drivel, I press CTRL-K, and then click on the Okay button and hop, every
post from them disappears into thin air.

And it works just as well for the morons who reply three times to the same
troll. I'm considering adding a couple of regulars who haven't learnt self
discipline.

Yes I'm being harsh, but Dale didn't post his "guidelines" yesterday to
waste bandwidth, but to remind us of something.
--
All the Best
Ian Hoare
http://www.souvigne.com
mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website

In message >
Ian Hoare > wrote:

> Salut/Hi Midlife,
>
> le/on Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:15:10 -0800, tu disais/you said:-
>
> >I keep learning more new things about my e-mail software. For instance, all
> >I have to do is open an offensive post, then go to the kill file rule I set
> >up recently..... click on "add Criterion" and whaddaya know???.........One
> >more 'from' address in the kill file. Only takes a second.
>
> It'sa even easier than that with my newsreader. When I see some childish
> drivel, I press CTRL-K, and then click on the Okay button and hop, every
> post from them disappears into thin air.
>


And even easier with mine, I‘ve discovered, it has a button on the icon bar
specifically dedicated to kill-filing — click it and it‘s done. This seems to be
one of the advanatages of not using a standard machine, along with it being virtually
impossible to pick up viruses because the OS is wholly different.



Timothy Hartley

[Using an Acorn RiscPC]

Oh, a MAC HEAD- they are even more anal than WINE SNOBS. I hwaed Bill Gates
is going out of business, at least thats what some MAC HEAD told me.

"Timothy Hartley" > wrote in message
...
> In message >
> Ian Hoare > wrote:
>
>> Salut/Hi Midlife,
>>
>> le/on Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:15:10 -0800, tu disais/you said:-
>>
>> >I keep learning more new things about my e-mail software. For instance,
>> >all
>> >I have to do is open an offensive post, then go to the kill file rule I
>> >set
>> >up recently..... click on "add Criterion" and whaddaya
>> >know???.........One
>> >more 'from' address in the kill file. Only takes a second.
>>
>> It'sa even easier than that with my newsreader. When I see some childish
>> drivel, I press CTRL-K, and then click on the Okay button and hop, every
>> post from them disappears into thin air.
>>
>
>
> And even easier with mine, I've discovered, it has a button on the icon
> bar
> specifically dedicated to kill-filing - click it and it's done. This seems
> to be
> one of the advanatages of not using a standard machine, along with it
> being virtually
> impossible to pick up viruses because the OS is wholly different.
>
>
>
> Timothy Hartley
>
> [Using an Acorn RiscPC]

Ian Hoare > wrote:

> It'sa even easier than that with my newsreader. When I see some
> childish drivel, I press CTRL-K, and then click on the Okay
> button

My newsreader doesn't even need the [Ctrl] button, [K] is just
enough ;-)

M.

Michael Pronay wrote:
> Ian Hoare > wrote:
>
>> It'sa even easier than that with my newsreader. When I see some
>> childish drivel, I press CTRL-K, and then click on the Okay
>> button
>
> My newsreader doesn't even need the [Ctrl] button, [K] is just
> enough ;-)
>
> M.

I use a very simple newsreader, Outlook Express, and the procedure for
adding senders to a Kill File is a bit tedious unless I have missed
something (entirely possible :-). I wonder if you and perhaps Ian and
others could tell me which readers you are using?

TIA,

--
James V. Silverton
Potomac, Maryland, USA

Salut/Hi James,

le/on Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:09:41 -0500, tu disais/you said:-

Me.

>>> childish drivel, I press CTRL-K, and then click on the Okay
>>> button

>> My newsreader doesn't even need the [Ctrl] button, [K] is just
>> enough ;-)

You asked
> I wonder if you and perhaps Ian and others could tell me which readers you are using?

I use Agent, and having a quick look at Michael's headers, I noticed that he
uses (I did a quick cut and paste job)

User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25

Agent is really designed to be used as an offline reader. You go on line,
download all your messages and then read and reply, before going on line to
send. I think it's the best of the batch for that. If you've got broadband,
or unlimited access in some other way, then its advantages are less marked.
(Agent is available in two forms, "Free agent" and "Agent 2.??" currently,
though I'm not sure whether free agent has kill filters).


--
All the Best
Ian Hoare
http://www.souvigne.com
mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website

MY you are harsh Ian. Why call other users on this group "morons"? I guess
you just follow the path of all Control Freaks.
"Ian Hoare" > wrote in message
...
> Salut/Hi Midlife,
>
> le/on Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:15:10 -0800, tu disais/you said:-
>
>>I keep learning more new things about my e-mail software. For instance,
>>all
>>I have to do is open an offensive post, then go to the kill file rule I
>>set
>>up recently..... click on "add Criterion" and whaddaya know???.........One
>>more 'from' address in the kill file. Only takes a second.
>
> It'sa even easier than that with my newsreader. When I see some childish
> drivel, I press CTRL-K, and then click on the Okay button and hop, every
> post from them disappears into thin air.
>
> And it works just as well for the morons who reply three times to the same
> troll. I'm considering adding a couple of regulars who haven't learnt self
> discipline.
>
> Yes I'm being harsh, but Dale didn't post his "guidelines" yesterday to
> waste bandwidth, but to remind us of something.
> --
> All the Best
> Ian Hoare
> http://www.souvigne.com
> mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:09:41 -0500, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

>Michael Pronay wrote:
>> Ian Hoare > wrote:
>>
>>> It'sa even easier than that with my newsreader. When I see some
>>> childish drivel, I press CTRL-K, and then click on the Okay
>>> button
>>
>> My newsreader doesn't even need the [Ctrl] button, [K] is just
>> enough ;-)
>>
>> M.
>
>I use a very simple newsreader, Outlook Express, and the procedure for
>adding senders to a Kill File is a bit tedious unless I have missed
>something (entirely possible :-). I wonder if you and perhaps Ian and
>others could tell me which readers you are using?
>
>TIA,

Forte Agent--and, I've been astonished at the number of regulars who
keep encouraging restraint while not exercising it.

End of message---sender out.

Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com

"James Silverton" > wrote:

> I wonder if you and perhaps Ian and others could tell me which
> readers you are using?

If memory serves me right, typing [Ctrl]+[F3] gives you the
complete posting including headers, where under "X-Newsreader"
one can see the type of reader a posting has been edited with.
Your reader is "Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527".

Thus said, I use Xnews. For free at <http://xnews.newsguy.com/>.

M.

Michael Pronay wrote:
> "James Silverton" > wrote:
>
>> I wonder if you and perhaps Ian and others could tell me which
>> readers you are using?
>
> If memory serves me right, typing [Ctrl]+[F3] gives you the
> complete posting including headers, where under "X-Newsreader"
> one can see the type of reader a posting has been edited with.
> Your reader is "Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527".
>
> Thus said, I use Xnews. For free at <http://xnews.newsguy.com/>.
>
> M.

That's worth knowing except that, now you've told me what to look for,
the heading is "User Agent" with my version of OE. You can also go
with right click|Properties|Details and see "User Agent" again if you
are a mouser like me.

Thanks again,

Jim.

You might find the following interesting:

http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/

Reply to .

In ,
Ian Hoare > typed:

> (Agent is available in two forms,
> "Free agent" and "Agent 2.??" currently, though I'm not sure
> whether
> free agent has kill filters).


When I last used Free Agent ( a fair number of years ago) the
absence of killfile capability was one of the things that
distinguished it from the full product.

Whether that's still the case, I'm not sure.

If I'm not mistaken, one of Agent's disadvantages is that it
won't handle multiple newsservers. I personally prefer Outlook
Express, but even if I didn't, since I use five different
servers, that would rule it for me.

--
Ken Blake
Please reply to the newsgroup

Midlife wrote:
> I keep learning more new things about my e-mail software. For
instance, all
> I have to do is open an offensive post, then go to the kill file rule
I set
> up recently..... click on "add Criterion" and whaddaya
know???.........One
> more 'from' address in the kill file. Only takes a second.

Pretty soon you'll be talking to yourself.....

Ken Blake wrote:
> In ,
> Ian Hoare > typed:
>
>
>> (Agent is available in two forms,
>>"Free agent" and "Agent 2.??" currently, though I'm not sure
>>whether
>>free agent has kill filters).
>
>
>
> When I last used Free Agent ( a fair number of years ago) the
> absence of killfile capability was one of the things that
> distinguished it from the full product.
>
> Whether that's still the case, I'm not sure.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, one of Agent's disadvantages is that it
> won't handle multiple newsservers. I personally prefer Outlook
> Express, but even if I didn't, since I use five different
> servers, that would rule it for me.
>


Netscape 7.1
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624
Netscape/7.1 (ax)


It is quite similar to Outlook, more stable and more secure.

And free.



Just download Netscape [about 14 meg I think] and it comes with a
browser and newsreader.

>
> Netscape 7.1
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624
> Netscape/7.1 (ax)
>
>
> It is quite similar to Outlook, more stable and more secure.
>
> And free.
>
>
>
> Just download Netscape [about 14 meg I think] and it comes with a
> browser and newsreader.
>

I wouldn't recommend using the browser however, firefox is a much better
browser.

"James Silverton" > wrote:

> You can also go with right click|Properties|Details and see
> "User Agent" again if you are a mouser like me.

Within OE yes, probably not with other readers (not with Xnews
anyhow).

M.

Ian Hoare > wrote:

> I use Agent, and having a quick look at Michael's headers, I
> noticed that he uses (I did a quick cut and paste job)
>
> User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25
>
> Agent is really designed to be used as an offline reader.

While with Xnews it's the opposite: Designed as an online reader.

M.

Salut/Hi Ken Blake,

le/on Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:16:43 -0700, tu disais/you said:-


>If I'm not mistaken, one of Agent's disadvantages is that it
>won't handle multiple newsservers. I personally prefer Outlook
>Express, but even if I didn't, since I use five different
>servers, that would rule it for me.

Hamster solves that problem, Ken. It acts as a local news server, allowing
you to link to any number of others. It integrates their feeds, creating a
single newsgroup base, to which Agent then looks. It IS a more complex
process, in that subscribing to a new group involved subscribing first in
Hamster and then d/ling in Agent, but it does do the job and as I rarely
find myself surfing non subscribed newsgroups, I can live with it. I agree
with you, though, that Agent's lack of multiple newsfeed support is a major
black mark. A good point on the other hand, is that one can have multiple
instances running at the same time. One looks to Hamster to give perfect
completion and the other can look to your best newsfeed, and give you a
quick idea as to whether it's worth while. And of course NOT being the
market leader it very rarely gets targetted by virus writers testing out the
latest exploit.
--
All the Best
Ian Hoare
http://www.souvigne.com
mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website

In ,
Ian Hoare > typed:

> Salut/Hi Ken Blake,
>
> le/on Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:16:43 -0700, tu disais/you said:-
>
>
>> If I'm not mistaken, one of Agent's disadvantages is that it
>> won't handle multiple newsservers. I personally prefer Outlook
>> Express, but even if I didn't, since I use five different
>> servers, that would rule it for me.
>
> Hamster solves that problem, Ken. It acts as a local news
> server,
> allowing you to link to any number of others. It integrates
> their
> feeds, creating a single newsgroup base, to which Agent then
> looks.


Thanks, Ian. I never heard of Hamster before, but it's good to
know about.

I'll still pass on Agent though. As I said, I used to use it, but
prefer Outlook Express.

--
Ken Blake
Please reply to the newsgroup



> It IS a more complex process, in that subscribing to a new
> group
> involved subscribing first in Hamster and then d/ling in Agent,
> but
> it does do the job and as I rarely find myself surfing non
> subscribed
> newsgroups, I can live with it. I agree with you, though, that
> Agent's lack of multiple newsfeed support is a major black
> mark. A
> good point on the other hand, is that one can have multiple
> instances
> running at the same time. One looks to Hamster to give perfect
> completion and the other can look to your best newsfeed, and
> give you
> a quick idea as to whether it's worth while. And of course NOT
> being
> the market leader it very rarely gets targetted by virus
> writers
> testing out the latest exploit.

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:23:44 +1100, Mat <Ask@me> wrote:

>>
>> Just download Netscape [about 14 meg I think] and it comes with a
>> browser and newsreader.
>>
>
>I wouldn't recommend using the browser however, firefox is a much better
>browser.

And, if you like Firefox, you probably will soon discover Mozilla's
Thunderbird--an email client and newsreader.

While I like the Firefox interface and particularly the tabbed
browsing feature, I've found a lot of stumbles in displaying
interactive pages such as ordering products from Internet merchants
like Amazon.

Thunderbird, however, has the full package of email and news client
features that most folks here have been indicating are required.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com