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Despite Betsy's jetlag, we managed to make it to 2 Memorial Day parties
Monday. At the first we lightly sampled some gazpacho and split a burger. There was some Yellowtail and Korbel running around, but I concentrated on a glass of a wine I had brought, the NV Renardat-F=E2che Vin du Bugey Cerdon. Fun in a glass. The hostess was giggling over it- it's sweet, has bubbles, yet a geek brought it. Enough wild strawberries to cause smiles on a summer night. Beneath the sweet bubbling fruit (there's raspberry there too) there's an earthiness that draws one's attention. B+ , with A for fun and value. A short hop up the road from Irvington to Scarborough, where we had some nibbles before a dinner of pesto and shrimp over pasta. A couple of wines of note: 2004 Cantalupo "Il Mimo " Rosato (Colline Novaresi). My first taste of new vintage of my favorite Nebbiolo ros=E9 (ok only Nebbiolo ros=E9 I know, but one of my favorite ros=E9s, period). Great floral/tar nose, rich dry strawberry fruit. Good acidic backbone (and even a slight hint of tannins). Nice balanced wine that could stand up to meat in the summer heat. Slightly bittersweet minerally finish. B+/A 2002 Henry Pelle "Morogues" Menetou-Salon (blanc)- pretty intense gooseberry nose with a little grass and catpee. Full for a Menetou on the palate, with rather rich citrus and gooseberry fruit. A hit among some NZ partisans (there's maybe a hint of jalapeno there), there's some Loire-chalk on the finish. B+ Tuesday Betsy made barbecued chicken, with potato salad and green salad. I served the 1999 Ambra "Vigna di Santa Christina in Pilli" Carmignano. Pleasant enough red, with cherry and redcurrant fruit. A little rounder/fatter than my preference, with a slightly clunky finish. I've had and liked this wine before. A little surprising oak note. If guessing I would have thought this had much more than the 10% max Cab Sauv that I think is allowed in Carmignano. OK wine, bu I'd rather spend $2 more for a Felsina Chianti. B One other note- before going to city Saturday, I stopped by Zachys to pick up a couple of wines. There were a several producers or reps there pouring wines, I stopped by 2 tables. The guy from Famiglia Anselma was very nice and informative. The wines were a nice balance - traditional without being rustic, though the tannins on the 2000 & 2001s made analysis tough. I preferred the 1997 normale to the 1997 Adasi. David Bowler Wines were pouring some Germans and Australians, I tried the Germans. All were 2003s, and were predictably fat. To their credit, the pourers said right out front this is not a classically styled vintage, and it's not to everyone's taste. My faves of the bunch were a Schaefer-Frolich Bockenaur Felseneck Spat, and a Wegeler Rudesheimer Berg Rotland Spat. Plus a Weins-Prum that I tasted again later that evening at Triomphe. Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency |
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![]() "DaleW" > wrote in message oups.com... Despite Betsy's jetlag, we managed to make it to 2 Memorial Day parties Monday. At the first we lightly sampled some gazpacho and split a burger. There was some Yellowtail and Korbel running around, but I concentrated on a glass of a wine I had brought, the NV Renardat-Fche Vin du Bugey Cerdon. Fun in a glass. The hostess was giggling over it- it's sweet, has bubbles, yet a geek brought it. Enough wild strawberries to cause smiles on a summer night. Beneath the sweet bubbling fruit (there's raspberry there too) there's an earthiness that draws one's attention. B+ , with A for fun and value. A short hop up the road from Irvington to Scarborough, where we had some nibbles before a dinner of pesto and shrimp over pasta. A couple of wines of note: 2004 Cantalupo "Il Mimo " Rosato (Colline Novaresi). My first taste of new vintage of my favorite Nebbiolo rosé (ok only Nebbiolo rosé I know, but one of my favorite rosés, period). Great floral/tar nose, rich dry strawberry fruit. Good acidic backbone (and even a slight hint of tannins). Nice balanced wine that could stand up to meat in the summer heat. Slightly bittersweet minerally finish. B+/A 2002 Henry Pelle "Morogues" Menetou-Salon (blanc)- pretty intense gooseberry nose with a little grass and catpee. Full for a Menetou on the palate, with rather rich citrus and gooseberry fruit. A hit among some NZ partisans (there's maybe a hint of jalapeno there), there's some Loire-chalk on the finish. B+ Tuesday Betsy made barbecued chicken, with potato salad and green salad. I served the 1999 Ambra "Vigna di Santa Christina in Pilli" Carmignano. Pleasant enough red, with cherry and redcurrant fruit. A little rounder/fatter than my preference, with a slightly clunky finish. I've had and liked this wine before. A little surprising oak note. If guessing I would have thought this had much more than the 10% max Cab Sauv that I think is allowed in Carmignano. OK wine, bu I'd rather spend $2 more for a Felsina Chianti. B One other note- before going to city Saturday, I stopped by Zachys to pick up a couple of wines. There were a several producers or reps there pouring wines, I stopped by 2 tables. The guy from Famiglia Anselma was very nice and informative. The wines were a nice balance - traditional without being rustic, though the tannins on the 2000 & 2001s made analysis tough. I preferred the 1997 normale to the 1997 Adasi. David Bowler Wines were pouring some Germans and Australians, I tried the Germans. All were 2003s, and were predictably fat. To their credit, the pourers said right out front this is not a classically styled vintage, and it's not to everyone's taste. My faves of the bunch were a Schaefer-Frolich Bockenaur Felseneck Spat, and a Wegeler Rudesheimer Berg Rotland Spat. Plus a Weins-Prum that I tasted again later that evening at Triomphe. Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency Where would Scarborough be?? |
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"Where would Scarborough be?? "
Scarborough is one of those non-places Westchester has, like Edgemont. There's a train station, no actual village. I think it's physically part of Ossining, though they go to Briarcliff Manor schools. |
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![]() "DaleW" > skrev i melding oups.com... Despite Betsy's jetlag, we managed to make it to 2 Memorial Day parties Monday. ..... My faves of the bunch were a Schaefer-Frolich Bockenaur Felseneck Spat... Hi Dale, Schäfer-Frölich did two versions of that wine, one with 9.7%abv and another with 8.5%. The latter (and expensiver with 14EUR) received 88points noting 'fine acidity', the former (10EUR) a mere 79 noting 'lack of brilliance and depth' - points indicating 'excellent' and 'good' respectively. :-) Anders |
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"DaleW" > wrote: > NV Renardat-Fche Vin du Bugey > Cerdon That sounds great. The price seems right as I've seen it list @ $13. Where did you buy it? |
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Mike, never had the Peillot sparkler, though I have had the (good)
Peillot Altesse still wine. I thought last year's Renardet Fache (it's NV, but tends to appear on market in spring then disappear) was sweeter and more candied than most before. I assumed 2003 fruit. This is still sweet, but not candied, and fine for what it is. thanks! |
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Anders, thanks for info. I didn't note acidity or AP #s. But it was
(gulp) $24.99 - I passed! |
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![]() "DaleW" > wrote in message ups.com... > "Where would Scarborough be?? " > > Scarborough is one of those non-places Westchester has, like Edgemont. > There's a train station, no actual village. I think it's physically > part of Ossining, though they go to Briarcliff Manor schools. I live in Westchester - Amawalk to be exact - there is no Scarborough. You are correct in saying it's a "non- place". |
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Lawrence,
Sorry, thought I answered this yesterday, but not showing up that I can see. I got at Zachys for I think $14: it's typically carried also in NY by Astor, PJs, and the geek-heaven Chambers Street. I think Kermit Lynch also has a Cerdon Bugey with a good rep, but don't think it's Renardat-Fache. |
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I'd have to say on my end of the county we'd call Amawalk a non-place-
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zara > typed: > "DaleW" > wrote in message > ups.com... >> "Where would Scarborough be?? " >> >> Scarborough is one of those non-places Westchester has, like >> Edgemont. There's a train station, no actual village. I think >> it's >> physically part of Ossining, though they go to Briarcliff >> Manor >> schools. > > I live in Westchester - Amawalk to be exact - there is no > Scarborough. You are correct in saying it's a "non- place". I used to live in Westchester--Ardsley and New Rochelle, to be exact. Of course there's a Scarborough. See, for example, http://www.hometownlocator.com/City/...h-New-York.cfm I believe it's a hamlet, not a village, town, or city, and therefore is not a legal entiry, but that doesn't stop it from existing. There are lots of hamlets in New York State. In Rockland County, across the river from Westchester, New City, the County Capital, is just a hamlet. -- Ken Blake Please reply to the newsgroup |
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