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Saturday was my 45th, and Betsy invited some friends for dinner. She
had to play matinee, so cooked maniacally in the morning, and jumped right back in on return (I was in charge of turning off stove at one point, and appetizers). To start we had pat=E9 and olives, along with cold shrimp with a delightfully simple warm cocktail sauce (ketchup, vinegar and butter warmed, then spiked with horseradish). The starter wines we NV Oudinot Champagne A nice lighter-styled Champagne, some biscuit and white flowers on nose, crisp green apple fruit with a clean yeasty finish. B/B+ 2004 Domaine de la Pepiere Muscadet Does anything more need to be said about this? Light yet with structure, brilliant seashell/seashore nose with clean fruit and long finish. B++ All my friends attending like wine, but none are geeks, so I looked for a theme that would be fun, instructive (without me being pedantic), and not ruinously expensive (I love sharing wine with friends, but I do try to save my most precious bottles for those who might appreciate what is being offered- hope that doesn't make me a pretentious A$%hole!). So how about that misunderstood grape, Merlot? I decided on an Anti- Sideways theme, put together menu cards (with the dishes and the wines) entitled "Well,. I AM going to drink some F%^&ing Merlot!" First courses was a take on Balthazar's grilled trout with lentils and spinach. A complex and beautiful dish (though I did do a misflip on one filet, luckily it was an extra). http://www.wineloverspage.com/user_s...rc_573968.html I thought I'd pair the geriatric Merlots with this, figuring the resolved tannins would make a nice soft backdrop. It was an ok match, but I think a younger lighter more acidic wine (a Beaujolais, light Northern Rhone as Bob suggested, or maybe a drier Freisa) would be way I'd go next time - and there will be a next time for this dish. 1982 Dalem (Fronsac) Ok, so a 23 yr-old satellite wine is pretty chancy. And indeed this seemed a bit overmature when served (a few minutes after being decanted). Somewhat tired old Merlot fruit, with an overlay of damp forest floor and mushrooms. OK but just ok. But surprisingly this had improved strongly when revisited later (maybe 90 minutes?). Resolved tannins, good red plum and blackberry fruit, some earth and cedar intertwining with that loamy/mossy note. There's also a sweet roasted hazelnut aroma dancing around there. Not great, but good. B+ 1983 Beau-Sejour-Becot (St. Emilion) This is even more chancy, as it's a 375 from an underperforming estate. It's on the downslide, but not as much as I feared. The fruit is not very vibrant, but it's smooth and easy to drink, with lots of cigarbox and leather. There's a tiny bit left in the decanter, retasted at same point as the Dalem it's deader than Generalissimo Franco. But on opening, B/B- Main Course was Beef Short Ribs with Creamy Leeks served with mashed potatoes. Really delicious, and served with 3 Merlots: 1999 Albini Family Vineyards Merlot (Russian River Valley) I thought this was obviously New World, but 2 guests immediately assumed it was the Bordeaux, from the huge dose of earth and herbs on the nose. Rich deep black plum and blackberry fruit (maybe a little blueberry), lots of earth, and a long tannic finish. Good concentration, very nice wine (Merlot is not first thing I think of when I hear RRV). A-/B+ 2001 Ch. Magdelaine (St. Emilion) I picked this after Alex R. posted a note saying that Magdelaine has the highest Merlot (90%) of any St-=C9milion Premier Grand Cru Class=E9. I decanted in mid-afternoon, returned to bottle just before dinner,and it was served a couple hours later. Mistake!!!!! This was rather tight on opening, but after the decant and wait it had settled into a totally dumb state. These things are always guesses, and I guessed wrong. I set aside my glass in frustration, and return after the cheese course. Ah, this is more like it. Rather dense berry and cherry fruit, loads of herbs with a light coffee note. A rather distinct minerality on the finish, this merits an A- at the end. 1999 Neyers "Conn Ranch" Merlot (Napa) Big typically Californian Merlot. Rather lush texture, very sweet dark plum fruit. More fruit-forward and fruit-driven than the others, it's an impressive wine but better on its own than with the food. Some toasty oak and chocolate aromas. A B, if not really my style. A really nice night with good friends. Lively conversation (nature/nurture, would a thinking/caring god have created crusaders for Intelligent Design classes, African waterholes, gender stereotypes, etc.), fantastic food, mostly good wine. Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency |
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DaleW wrote:
> Saturday was my 45th, and Betsy invited some friends for dinner. She > had to play matinee, so cooked maniacally in the morning, and jumped > right back in on return (I was in charge of turning off stove at one > point, and appetizers). Happy B-day, you young whippersnapper. What a shame that your birth year was sandwiched between two incredible years in Bordeaux (mine and Jean's -- nyah nyah nyah). As my best friend was born in '60, I know from harsh experience that Port is about the best choice from that year. > All my friends attending like wine, but none are geeks, so I looked for > a theme that would be fun, instructive (without me being pedantic), and > not ruinously expensive (I love sharing wine with friends, but I do try > to save my most precious bottles for those who might appreciate what is > being offered- hope that doesn't make me a pretentious A$%hole!). No, it just makes you realistic and likely to avoid major disappointment. I guess that it also shows that you have a passion for wine -- what a shocker that is! ;-) > 1982 Dalem (Fronsac) > 1983 Beau-Sejour-Becot (St. Emilion) Now, I do realize that these right-bankers are *mostly* Merlot, but both have a fair amount of Cab Franc in them, too. Truth in advertising?? ![]() > A really nice night with good friends. Lively conversation > (nature/nurture, would a thinking/caring god have created crusaders for > Intelligent Design classes, African waterholes, gender stereotypes, > etc.), fantastic food, mostly good wine. It sounds like a great event, Dale. What a great idea doing a Merlot event. I also have a number of them rotting in the cellar, awaiting our upcoming 4th annual "cellar clearance" party. ;-) Mark Lipton |
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On 3 Oct 2005 08:53:49 -0700
"DaleW" > wrote: ] Saturday was my 45th, and Betsy invited some friends for dinner. She Happy Birthday, Dale. Great theme, too. Although it's gotten a bum rap, merlot is still one of the worlds greatest cepages. -E -- Emery Davis You can reply to by removing the well known companies |
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Mark Lipton > wrote in news:dhrnhn$9p7$1
@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu: > > Now, I do realize that these right-bankers are *mostly* Merlot, but both > have a fair amount of Cab Franc in them, too. Truth in advertising?? ![]() > > > Mark Lipton Cab Franc was the other wine dissed by the movie in question- Then the hero turns around and drinks Cheval Blanc!! -- Joseph Coulter Cruises and Vacations http://www.josephcoulter.com/ |
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Thanks Mark.
Well, Dalem is typically 85% Merlot, so under CA rules it could be lableled Merlot. According to Neal Martin, these days Beau Sejour Becot (they separate the name, unlike Duffau) is about 70% Merlot. http://www.wine-journal.com/becot.html So couldn't be called Merlot in CA. |
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Yeah, since I have no Cheval Blanc I thought about including a Havens
Bourriquot (Havens hommage to Cheval Blanc, the same classic cepage of 66%CF/34% Merlot). But would have been too much explaining to the audience. ![]() |
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Thanks Emery. Merlot's bad rap is because there is an absolute ocean of
bad Merlot out there. But when it's good, it's good! |
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"As my best friend was born in '60, I know
from harsh experience that Port is about the best choice from that year." Yeah, I have one bottle of Fonseca left. When it's gone, I'm done with birthyear wines! |
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"DaleW" > skrev i meddelandet
ups.com... > "As my best friend was born in '60, I know > from harsh experience that Port is about the best choice from that > year." > > Yeah, I have one bottle of Fonseca left. When it's gone, I'm done with > birthyear wines! Happy Birthday, Dale. Cheers! Nils Gustaf -- Respond to nils dot lindgren at drchips dot se |
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In article .com>,
DaleW > wrote: > >Thanks Emery. Merlot's bad rap is because there is an absolute ocean of >bad Merlot out there. But when it's good, it's good! Sort of like chardonnay... Dimitri |
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Wishing a very happy birthday. Just think you only have 5 years till
your AARP letter comes so drink up. You don't want the brain cells to recognize that letter. A well thought out tasting. In article .com>, "DaleW" > wrote: > Saturday was my 45th, and Betsy invited some friends for dinner. She > had to play matinee, so cooked maniacally in the morning, and jumped > right back in on return (I was in charge of turning off stove at one > point, and appetizers). > > To start we had paté and olives, along with cold shrimp with a > delightfully simple warm cocktail sauce (ketchup, vinegar and butter > warmed, then spiked with horseradish). The starter wines we > > NV Oudinot Champagne > A nice lighter-styled Champagne, some biscuit and white flowers on > nose, crisp green apple fruit with a clean yeasty finish. B/B+ > > 2004 Domaine de la Pepiere Muscadet > Does anything more need to be said about this? Light yet with > structure, brilliant seashell/seashore nose with clean fruit and long > finish. B++ > > All my friends attending like wine, but none are geeks, so I looked for > a theme that would be fun, instructive (without me being pedantic), and > not ruinously expensive (I love sharing wine with friends, but I do try > to save my most precious bottles for those who might appreciate what is > being offered- hope that doesn't make me a pretentious A$%hole!). > > So how about that misunderstood grape, Merlot? I decided on an Anti- > Sideways theme, put together menu cards (with the dishes and the wines) > entitled "Well,. I AM going to drink some F%^&ing Merlot!" > > First courses was a take on Balthazar's grilled trout with lentils and > spinach. A complex and beautiful dish (though I did do a misflip on one > filet, luckily it was an extra). > http://www.wineloverspage.com/user submitted/recipes/rc 573968.html > > I thought I'd pair the geriatric Merlots with this, figuring the > resolved tannins would make a nice soft backdrop. It was an ok match, > but I think a younger lighter more acidic wine (a Beaujolais, light > Northern Rhone as Bob suggested, or maybe a drier Freisa) would be way > I'd go next time - and there will be a next time for this dish. > > 1982 Dalem (Fronsac) > Ok, so a 23 yr-old satellite wine is pretty chancy. And indeed this > seemed a bit overmature when served (a few minutes after being > decanted). Somewhat tired old Merlot fruit, with an overlay of damp > forest floor and mushrooms. OK but just ok. But surprisingly this had > improved strongly when revisited later (maybe 90 minutes?). Resolved > tannins, good red plum and blackberry fruit, some earth and cedar > intertwining with that loamy/mossy note. There's also a sweet roasted > hazelnut aroma dancing around there. Not great, but good. B+ > > 1983 Beau-Sejour-Becot (St. Emilion) > This is even more chancy, as it's a 375 from an underperforming estate. > It's on the downslide, but not as much as I feared. The fruit is not > very vibrant, but it's smooth and easy to drink, with lots of cigarbox > and leather. There's a tiny bit left in the decanter, retasted at same > point as the Dalem it's deader than Generalissimo Franco. But on > opening, B/B- > > Main Course was Beef Short Ribs with Creamy Leeks served with mashed > potatoes. Really delicious, and served with 3 Merlots: > > 1999 Albini Family Vineyards Merlot (Russian River Valley) > I thought this was obviously New World, but 2 guests immediately > assumed it was the Bordeaux, from the huge dose of earth and herbs on > the nose. Rich deep black plum and blackberry fruit (maybe a little > blueberry), lots of earth, and a long tannic finish. Good > concentration, very nice wine (Merlot is not first thing I think of > when I hear RRV). A-/B+ > > 2001 Ch. Magdelaine (St. Emilion) > I picked this after Alex R. posted a note saying that Magdelaine has > the highest Merlot (90%) of any St-Émilion Premier Grand Cru > Classé. I decanted in mid-afternoon, returned to bottle just before > dinner,and it was served a couple hours later. Mistake!!!!! This was > rather tight on opening, but after the decant and wait it had settled > into a totally dumb state. These things are always guesses, and I > guessed wrong. I set aside my glass in frustration, and return after > the cheese course. Ah, this is more like it. Rather dense berry and > cherry fruit, loads of herbs with a light coffee note. A rather > distinct minerality on the finish, this merits an A- at the end. > > 1999 Neyers "Conn Ranch" Merlot (Napa) > Big typically Californian Merlot. Rather lush texture, very sweet dark > plum fruit. More fruit-forward and fruit-driven than the others, it's > an impressive wine but better on its own than with the food. Some > toasty oak and chocolate aromas. A B, if not really my style. > > A really nice night with good friends. Lively conversation > (nature/nurture, would a thinking/caring god have created crusaders for > Intelligent Design classes, African waterholes, gender stereotypes, > etc.), fantastic food, mostly good wine. > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent > wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't > drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no > promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency > |
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DaleW wrote:
> Saturday was my 45th, and Betsy invited some friends for dinner. She Happy birthday, Dale! -- Ken Blake Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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![]() "DaleW" > wrote in message oups.com... Saturday was my 45th Belated Happy Birthday, Dale! :^D Tom S |
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No 1960---A rotten year, except in Scotch, Rum or Amignanac
"Ken Blake" > wrote in message eenews.net... > DaleW wrote: > > > Saturday was my 45th, and Betsy invited some friends for dinner. She > > > Happy birthday, Dale! > > -- > Ken Blake > Please Reply to the Newsgroup > > |
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Salut/Hi Steve,
le/on Tue, 04 Oct 2005 04:07:32 GMT, tu disais/you said:- >Chatueau Petrus is a merlot and cab franc blend, and they seem to do >alright in the wine world. That's Chateau (there's no need for the first 'u') by the way. Are you SURE that there's much Cab Franc in Pétrus, I thought it was pretty near to 100% Merlot. As are most other Pomerols, by the way. >Of course, I've never had any, but judging from the poll I did on >Squires' bulletin board, neither have most other serious wine drinkers. I've had Pétrus a couple of times - once at the shed and once at a tasting of premium wines my brother arranged. when young it had a magic "opulence" about it that reminded me as much of youngish DRC wines as anything. -- All the Best Ian Hoare http://www.souvigne.com mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website |
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Salut/Hi D. Gerasimatos,
le/on Mon, 3 Oct 2005 20:12:25 +0000 (UTC), tu disais/you said:- >In article .com>, >DaleW > wrote: >> >>Thanks Emery. Merlot's bad rap is because there is an absolute ocean of >>bad Merlot out there. But when it's good, it's good! > > >Sort of like chardonnay... Or wine in general. -- All the Best Ian Hoare http://www.souvigne.com mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website |
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Salut/Hi DaleW,
le/on 3 Oct 2005 08:53:49 -0700, tu disais/you said:- >Saturday was my 45th, and Betsy invited some friends for dinner. She >had to play matinee, so cooked maniacally in the morning, and jumped >right back in on return (I was in charge of turning off stove at one >point, and appetizers). Many happy returns. How nice it would be to be only 45! I could go back to buying Hermitage and Port and other long lived wines again. Sigh. As an official wrinkly, at least I can get cheap fares in the States. -- All the Best Ian Hoare http://www.souvigne.com mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website |
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On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 12:04:26 +0200
Ian Hoare > wrote: ] Salut/Hi D. Gerasimatos, ] ] le/on Mon, 3 Oct 2005 20:12:25 +0000 (UTC), tu disais/you said:- ] ] >In article .com>, ] >DaleW > wrote: ] >> ] >>Thanks Emery. Merlot's bad rap is because there is an absolute ocean of ] >>bad Merlot out there. But when it's good, it's good! ] > ] > ] >Sort of like chardonnay... ] ] Or wine in general. ] Exactly! There are oceans of bad wine made from all cepages, especially the "noble" ones. I wonder, do we think there is more bad merlot by percentage than chardonnay, cabernet sauvignon or pinot? ![]() -E -- Emery Davis You can reply to by removing the well known companies |
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Emery Davis > wrote in
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Emery Davis wrote:
> Exactly! There are oceans of bad wine made from all cepages, especially > the "noble" ones. I wonder, do we think there is more bad merlot by > percentage than chardonnay, cabernet sauvignon or pinot? ![]() Perhaps not bad, Emery, but for my tastes there's more *boring* Merlot on the market than one would find in most other varieties. Even Chardonnay, for all the faults I find with many renditions of it, presents something to either like or dislike; many Merlots OTOH are just bland: soft, cherry/oaky with utterly predictable flavors and no character whatsoever. No doubt this view is colored by my location: YMMV (however, I've had several exceedingly boring and "international" Merlots from France, too). Mark Lipton |
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DaleW wrote:
> Thanks Emery. Merlot's bad rap is because there is an absolute ocean > of bad Merlot out there. But when it's good, it's good! Yes. By and large, if a wine is labeled "Merlot," it's much more likely to be bad than a merlot-based wine (like Pomerols) that doesn't use the name. That's a generalization, of course, and like all generalizations, it isn't always true. -- Ken Blake Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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I'm with Mark on this one. While I enjoying my "I AM drinking F$%^ing
Merlot" party, I actually understood Miles' plaint (at least as far as varietally-identified , and therefore usually New World wines). The US "give me a glass of Merlot" rage of the early/mid 90s has led to a SEA of boring characterless Merlots. While there are plenty of bad Chardonnays and CS (I'll leave PN out of the discussion, as until recently many producers didn't make) out there, if faced with having to order a glass of unknown wine from a producer, I'd always order the CS or Chard before the Merlot. I'm not sure I can name a single under-$20 New World Merlot I'd like to have in my house. But could come up with a dozen Cabs or Chards (ok, half-dozen Chards), plus Zins, PNs, & Syrahs. |
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Ah, that's what I was trying to say (didn't see your response before I
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![]() "DaleW" > skrev i melding oups.com... Saturday was my 45th Hi Dale Was away for a long weekend, so didn't know before today - congratulations! This ng will soon have my annual Mosel report if I find the time and no serious objections are voiced... :-) Anders |
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On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 09:52:54 -0500
Mark Lipton > wrote: [] ] character whatsoever. No doubt this view is colored by my location: ] YMMV (however, I've had several exceedingly boring and "international" ] Merlots from France, too). ] Hi Mark, I think location has a lot to do with it. I've certainly had some boring cheap Merlots from France, but I'd say it is far out-weighed (out-volumed?) by awful Bordeaux here. What's more, much like the "merlot is wonderful" crowd in the states, most folks here will simply select Bordeaux over all other comers, regardless of the quality, because "Bordeaux is best." I'm guessing most of these wines are largely CS, although there is no doubt plenty of CF and some Merlot in there too. Truth is they're often so astringent it's difficult to tell the CS from the CF! Perhaps a German correspondent might see an ocean of bad Riesling, where an Aussie sees one of Shiraz... Thank goodness for variety, eh? ![]() -E -- Emery Davis You can reply to by removing the well known companies |
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Ian Hoare > wrote:
> Are you SURE that there's much Cab Franc in Pétrus, I thought it > was pretty near to 100% Merlot. As are most other Pomerols, by > the way. There is 5% of cabernet franc in the 11.5 hectare vineyard, although in recent vintages (since Christian Moueix manages the estate) the wine is mostly 100% merlot. M. |
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Salut/Hi Michael Pronay,
le/on Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:10:03 +0200, tu disais/you said:- >Ian Hoare > wrote: > >> Are you SURE that there's much Cab Franc in Pétrus, I thought it >> was pretty near to 100% Merlot. As are most other Pomerols, by >> the way. > >There is 5% of cabernet franc in the 11.5 hectare vineyard, >although in recent vintages (since Christian Moueix manages the >estate) the wine is mostly 100% merlot. Thanks for confirming that. I thought I was gooing senile. -- All the Best Ian Hoare http://www.souvigne.com mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website |
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