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Solihull Fine Wine Society October tasting.
I have been lurking of late as have been travelling a bit. My first tasting for three months. This is a varietal simple tasting, blind as usual. It would turn out to be a long hard slog, but very educational as you will see. Jacobs Creek, Chardonnay, Pinot Noir Fizz, Oz, 2004. Is this water? pale++, nose of cheap sweets, bubbles but no mousse, sweet yet bitter........foul Nottage Hill 2004 Chardonnay Oz Watery thin dull. nose of rancid sweets and chemicals, even worse on the palate, watery syrup and bitter. Pouilly Blanc Fume, Wine Soc generic 1996. Good looker, pale gold, complex earthy nose, soft entry then searing acidity and finished bitter. At least I spotted the SB Mainzer St Alban Kabinett, 1977, Pieroth!!!! Brown, maderised to hell, so lacking in residual alcohol, we thought it had to be Germanic, I suggested Falkland Islands Tete de Cuvee. Berncastler Schlosberg Spatlese 1988 Green tinged viscous, with a complex smokey nose, yet soft with some sweetness, long. I hadn'y a clue, only one taster mentioned Riesling!!! Declassified Y'Quem 1992, ( or so we were told) Beautifull deep gold, bright. Nose of Evostik glue as was the palate, sweet cloying and bitter. ( you could be arrested for sniffing this in public) Fleurie, 2004, George of alleged adulterating wine fame Duboeuf. Simple easy drinking light gamay, at least it was alive. Beaune Marchonets Premier Cru 1982. Pale brick with brown edge. Soft **** pinot nose with some vegetal strains, but dried out and almost dead. Hermitage La Chapelle, Jaboulet, 1980, brown edge to a dull wine, still complex syrah nose with tinned tomatoes, dryin out with little fruit left. I thought it was an old Croze. VCC Pomerol, 1989. At last a serious wine, deep with huge extract, a complex vegetal faecal nose which was not unpleasant. Soft full entry with firm tannins and all in balance, long. Beautiful. ( although after the previous wines a Gallo box wine would be pleasant) Ch D'Angludet, 1989. Very similar to the VCC, but lighter in all ares. Again a vegetal margaux nose like Brane- Cantenac of old, chewy fruit and spice, long, most pleasant but not up to the VCC. Lessons learnt Wines die eventually, especially if your central heating boiler is in your cellar. In the UK Nottage Hill and Jacobs Creek have a large % of supermarket sales of Oz wines. What can I say? |
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"Wines die eventually, especially if your central heating boiler is in
your cellar." Indeed. Even with perfect storage I wouldn't think a '77 Pieroth Kab would be drinkable, and that's stretching it for a Beaune from a middling vineyard. My personal tastes for Pouilly-Fume is for soon after release, too. Glad the VCC kept it from being a total waste! |
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![]() "John Taverner" > skrev i melding k... > Solihull Fine Wine Society October tasting. > > > Mainzer St Alban Kabinett, 1977, Pieroth!!!! > Brown, maderised to hell, so lacking in residual alcohol, we thought it > had to be Germanic, I suggested Falkland Islands Tete de Cuvee. > Pieroth? Are they still in business...? Yes, they seem to be, for some reason... Certainly not the wines. > > Berncastler Schlosberg Spatlese 1988 > Green tinged viscous, with a complex smokey nose, yet soft with some > sweetness, long. I hadn'y a clue, only one taster mentioned Riesling!!! > The Schlossberg is singularly undistinguished... I can't remember anything else than very ordinary wine from that location, and 17 years of hot (?) storage doesn't help it much, I'm afraid :-) Anders |
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 11:01:15 GMT
"John Taverner" > wrote: ] Ch D'Angludet, 1989. Very similar to the VCC, but lighter in all ares. Again ] a vegetal margaux nose like Brane- Cantenac of old, chewy fruit and spice, ] long, most pleasant but not up to the VCC. Hi John, Thanks for the notes. Sorry you had to put yourself through that one... Do you mean that the '89 d'Angludet was stored badly? I have some of it, should I drink up? -E -- Emery Davis You can reply to ecom by removing the well known companies |
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Do you mean that the '89 d'Angludet was stored badly? I
> have some of it, should I drink up? Emery It had been stored poorly, and still showed well. I f you have some, try a bottle to assess current maturity. It had masses of extract, and this very odd baby poo nose, which was very beguiling. Now if this is a result of being stewed over the years, so be it. I wish I had some in my cellar. FWIW, my last tranche of VCC was the 82, it showed well till the mid 90's and declined rapidly from there in. John |
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.... Do you mean that the '89 d'Angludet was stored badly? I
> have some of it, should I drink up? > Emery I posted a reply which I thought your query was re VCC. It seems to have been lost. In reply to your query re Angludet, I would have thought it was just coming off the plateau and may need reassessing. I cannot comment on one bottle from a warm cellar. It was a nice claret, but in shadow of the weighty VCC. John |
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John Taverner wrote:
<SNIP a sad story> > Lessons learnt > > Wines die eventually, especially if your central heating boiler is in your > cellar. > In the UK Nottage Hill and Jacobs Creek have a large % of supermarket sales > of Oz wines. What can I say? "Life is too short..." Here's hoping that the SFWS can recover from this misstep, John. Mark Lipton |
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