Several of you found these wines, Costco Label wines...several types.

Any thoughts...how are they?

"Richard Neidich" > wrote in message
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> Several of you found these wines, Costco Label wines...several types.
>
> Any thoughts...how are they?
>

It's bottled wine from different locales (France, Oregon, Australia). Not
all bad, certainly not in the same category as Charles Shaw. See:

http://forums.winespectator.com/grou...60216#30060216
http://forums.winespectator.com/grou...7103#514107103
http://forums.winespectator.com/grou...2833#960102833
http://forums.winespectator.com/grou...2942#149102942

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eNo
"Test everything; hold on to the good."

"eNo" > wrote in news:BHonf.7$dV2.3@dfw-
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> http://forums.winespec

read the reports, nothing to write home about it sems, I am not likely to
go $14 for Pinot from unknown sources when I can buy 2003 Marsannay from
Louis Latour for $12.

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Joseph Coulter
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"jcoulter" > wrote in message
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> "eNo" > wrote in news:BHonf.7$dV2.3@dfw-
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> > http://forums.winespec
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> read the reports, nothing to write home about it sems, I am not likely to
> go $14 for Pinot from unknown sources when I can buy 2003 Marsannay from
> Louis Latour for $12.

I'm with you. I really don't understand why Costco/Kirkland feels the need
to bottle their own wines when they can't beat wines from bonafide
wine-makers -- some of which they carry -- on price point. And that label...
it's hideous, ain't it? As for unknown sources, if you read through the
links, they are anything but. People have been able to identify where these
wines originate.

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eNo
"Test everything; hold on to the good."

"eNo" > wrote in
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> "jcoulter" > wrote in message
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>> "eNo" > wrote in news:BHonf.7$dV2.3@dfw-
>> service2.ext.ray.com:
>>
>> > http://forums.winespec
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>> read the reports, nothing to write home about it sems, I am not
>> likely to go $14 for Pinot from unknown sources when I can buy 2003
>> Marsannay from Louis Latour for $12.
>
> I'm with you. I really don't understand why Costco/Kirkland feels the
> need to bottle their own wines when they can't beat wines from
> bonafide wine-makers -- some of which they carry -- on price point.
> And that label... it's hideous, ain't it? As for unknown sources, if
> you read through the links, they are anything but. People have been
> able to identify where these wines originate.
>

Ok not so much unknown as unfamiliar versus a known quantity that is
darn good for price in the case of the Burgundy. On some of the other
stuff, I don't really have a lot of interest again at the price point.

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Joseph Coulter
Cruises and Vacations
http://www.josephcoulter.com/

eNo wrote:

> "jcoulter" > wrote in message
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>> "eNo" > wrote in news:BHonf.7$dV2.3@dfw-
>> service2.ext.ray.com:
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>>> http://forums.winespec
>>
>> read the reports, nothing to write home about it sems, I am not
>> likely to go $14 for Pinot from unknown sources when I can buy 2003
>> Marsannay from Louis Latour for $12.
>
> I'm with you. I really don't understand why Costco/Kirkland feels the
> need to bottle their own wines


I don't know what Costco does, and can't be sure I'm right, but I doubt if
they bottle anything. My guess is that the stuff is bottled for them at the
winery, and all Costco does is supply the labels.

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> when they can't beat wines from
> bonafide wine-makers -- some of which they carry -- on price point.
> And that label... it's hideous, ain't it? As for unknown sources, if
> you read through the links, they are anything but. People have been
> able to identify where these wines originate.

"Ken Blake" > wrote in message
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> eNo wrote:
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> > "jcoulter" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> >> "eNo" > wrote in news:BHonf.7$dV2.3@dfw-
> >> service2.ext.ray.com:
> >>
> >>> http://forums.winespec
> >>
> >> read the reports, nothing to write home about it sems, I am not
> >> likely to go $14 for Pinot from unknown sources when I can buy 2003
> >> Marsannay from Louis Latour for $12.
> >
> > I'm with you. I really don't understand why Costco/Kirkland feels the
> > need to bottle their own wines
>
>
> I don't know what Costco does, and can't be sure I'm right, but I doubt if
> they bottle anything. My guess is that the stuff is bottled for them at
the
> winery, and all Costco does is supply the labels.


Now here is the really interesting question: why would a winery want someone
else's label on their wine? One guess? To get rid of "surplus" wine so that
their label can come out in smaller numbers (lower supply) and thus command
a higher price. And to make some "in-the-bag" money on volume, I suppose.

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eNo
"Test everything; hold on to the good."

It could also be guaranteed sales for a small winery, whereas selling their
wines through distributors (or at the winery itself) might be iffy at best.
Costco may very well be coming in and making an offer on the entire lot. It
doesn't mean the wine is bad or sub-standard. In fact, it may be a really
good wine purchased early in the processing/aging/bottling stages before
much is known about what the final product will be like. It's a gamble for
Costco that can go either way. The winery has sold all their product at a
guaranteed price which is a win for the winery, and an opportunity for them
to produce better wines in years to come.

Then again, perhaps Costco has a bunch of employee in the back room dancing
in barrels of grapes. Check out the vintage, if it says "Thursday" I would
be cautious.

Personally, I think I'd rather buy from known wineries, although I've been
burned a few times doing that as well.

Ed

"eNo" > wrote in message
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> "Ken Blake" > wrote in message
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>> eNo wrote:
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>> > "jcoulter" > wrote in message
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>> >> "eNo" > wrote in news:BHonf.7$dV2.3@dfw-
>> >> service2.ext.ray.com:
>> >>
>> >>> http://forums.winespec
>> >>
>> >> read the reports, nothing to write home about it sems, I am not
>> >> likely to go $14 for Pinot from unknown sources when I can buy 2003
>> >> Marsannay from Louis Latour for $12.
>> >
>> > I'm with you. I really don't understand why Costco/Kirkland feels the
>> > need to bottle their own wines
>>
>>
>> I don't know what Costco does, and can't be sure I'm right, but I doubt
>> if
>> they bottle anything. My guess is that the stuff is bottled for them at
> the
>> winery, and all Costco does is supply the labels.
>
>
> Now here is the really interesting question: why would a winery want
> someone
> else's label on their wine? One guess? To get rid of "surplus" wine so
> that
> their label can come out in smaller numbers (lower supply) and thus
> command
> a higher price. And to make some "in-the-bag" money on volume, I suppose.
>
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> eNo
> "Test everything; hold on to the good."
>
>

"King Edward" > wrote in message
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> It could also be guaranteed sales for a small winery, whereas selling
> their wines through distributors (or at the winery itself) might be iffy
> at best. Costco may very well be coming in and making an offer on the
> entire lot. It doesn't mean the wine is bad or sub-standard. In fact, it
> may be a really good wine purchased early in the processing/aging/bottling
> stages before much is known about what the final product will be like.
> It's a gamble for Costco that can go either way. The winery has sold all
> their product at a guaranteed price which is a win for the winery, and an
> opportunity for them to produce better wines in years to come.
>
> Then again, perhaps Costco has a bunch of employee in the back room
> dancing in barrels of grapes. Check out the vintage, if it says "Thursday"
> I would be cautious.
>
> Personally, I think I'd rather buy from known wineries, although I've been
> burned a few times doing that as well.
>
> Ed

We buy a lot of things from Costco, but wine is not one of them. We usually
buy from large volume wine and spirits stores. I am not convinced that
Costco has the best choice of wines for good value. If it is the same
person choosing the wine to put on their own labels as the person who
chooses the wines to be sold, I probably won't be buying many Kirkland
brands. The last time I bought a bottle there was for my birthday for more
than I usually spend. What a disappointment. Yes, I know, it could've
this, it could've been that -- but 'twerent. But it was my choice to buy
it -- wrong!
Dee Dee