well, next weekend will be step three, which is adding clearing agent
and other "stuff"

anyway, the instructions say to stir the wine vigorously. the wine is
in the secondary carboy, my paddle doesnt fit....

well the stirring end doesnt fit, I could use the opposite end and
stir like mad.

what have others done?

Used the other end. Stir like crazy. then stir again. this is important.
DAve

Tater wrote:
> well, next weekend will be step three, which is adding clearing agent
> and other "stuff"
>
> anyway, the instructions say to stir the wine vigorously. the wine is
> in the secondary carboy, my paddle doesnt fit....
>
> well the stirring end doesnt fit, I could use the opposite end and
> stir like mad.
>
> what have others done?
>

Used the other end. Stir like crazy. then stir again. this is important.
DAve

Tater wrote:
> well, next weekend will be step three, which is adding clearing agent
> and other "stuff"
>
> anyway, the instructions say to stir the wine vigorously. the wine is
> in the secondary carboy, my paddle doesnt fit....
>
> well the stirring end doesnt fit, I could use the opposite end and
> stir like mad.
>
> what have others done?
>

Used the other end. Stir like crazy. then stir again. this is important.
DAve

Tater wrote:
> well, next weekend will be step three, which is adding clearing agent
> and other "stuff"
>
> anyway, the instructions say to stir the wine vigorously. the wine is
> in the secondary carboy, my paddle doesnt fit....
>
> well the stirring end doesnt fit, I could use the opposite end and
> stir like mad.
>
> what have others done?
>

On Apr 1, 9:29 pm, Dave Allison > wrote:
> Used the other end. Stir like crazy. then stir again. this is important.
> DAve
>
>
>
> Tater wrote:
> > anyway, the instructions say to stir the wine vigorously. the wine is
> > in the secondary carboy, my paddle doesnt fit....
>
> > well the stirring end doesnt fit, I could use the opposite end and
> > stir like mad.

no need to say it three times

considering this is my first kit, i'll probably stir it for a half
hour, just to be on the safe side

Used the other end. Stir like crazy. then stir again. this is important.
DAve

Tater wrote:
> well, next weekend will be step three, which is adding clearing agent
> and other "stuff"
>
> anyway, the instructions say to stir the wine vigorously. the wine is
> in the secondary carboy, my paddle doesnt fit....
>
> well the stirring end doesnt fit, I could use the opposite end and
> stir like mad.
>
> what have others done?
>

Used the other end. Stir like crazy. then stir again. this is important.
DAve

Tater wrote:
> well, next weekend will be step three, which is adding clearing agent
> and other "stuff"
>
> anyway, the instructions say to stir the wine vigorously. the wine is
> in the secondary carboy, my paddle doesnt fit....
>
> well the stirring end doesnt fit, I could use the opposite end and
> stir like mad.
>
> what have others done?
>

Used the other end. Stir like crazy. then stir again. this is important.
DAve

Tater wrote:
> well, next weekend will be step three, which is adding clearing agent
> and other "stuff"
>
> anyway, the instructions say to stir the wine vigorously. the wine is
> in the secondary carboy, my paddle doesnt fit....
>
> well the stirring end doesnt fit, I could use the opposite end and
> stir like mad.
>
> what have others done?
>

sorry, I replied once. some kind of error. so sorry.
DAve

Tater wrote:
> On Apr 1, 9:29 pm, Dave Allison > wrote:
>> Used the other end. Stir like crazy. then stir again. this is important.
>> DAve
>>
>>
>>
>> Tater wrote:
>>> anyway, the instructions say to stir the wine vigorously. the wine is
>>> in the secondary carboy, my paddle doesnt fit....
>>> well the stirring end doesnt fit, I could use the opposite end and
>>> stir like mad.
>
> no need to say it three times
>
> considering this is my first kit, i'll probably stir it for a half
> hour, just to be on the safe side
>

"Tater" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> well, next weekend will be step three, which is adding clearing agent
> and other "stuff"
>
> anyway, the instructions say to stir the wine vigorously. the wine is
> in the secondary carboy, my paddle doesnt fit....
>
> well the stirring end doesnt fit, I could use the opposite end and
> stir like mad.
>
> what have others done?

My first attempt at doing this was to do it by hand. The results
were a virtual disaster. I still sucker people into tasting the final
product. The less discerning of folks actually admire the "sparkling
Zinfadel."
One important purpose, in case your instructions didn't mention it,
of vigorous agitation is to release co2 that has disolved into the wine
furing the fermentation processes -- as well as making sure the stuff you
add gets throughly mixed in. I just don't think it is possible to do that
manually, even in an open-top fermenter, much less a necked down carboy.
I use a rod fitted into my drill motor. The rod should, of course,
be of some sturdy food-grade material. Nylon, polyethelene, aluminum, etc.
The working end can be bent to look like one of those expensive stirring
thingies in the various winemaking equipment catalogs. I whip the wine until
it quits releasing bubbles.
If you do use aluminum or any metal, make sure you remove all traces
of oils and lubricants -- but you had that figured out already. Nylon and
such can usually be found in the craft section of department stores like
Wally World, Michaels Craft Store, and so forth.

"Tater" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> well, next weekend will be step three, which is adding clearing agent
> and other "stuff"
>
> anyway, the instructions say to stir the wine vigorously. the wine is
> in the secondary carboy, my paddle doesnt fit....
>
> well the stirring end doesnt fit, I could use the opposite end and
> stir like mad.
>
> what have others done?
>
Get a 'Fizz-X' wine agitator rod. They should have them at your local wine
store. Metal rod with a couple of plastic wings that pop out when you put
it in a drill (a slow drill I might add).

Otherwise as you suggest but back and forth as this will agitate the wine
more than going in a circle. Stir till your arm is about to fall off.
Change arms. Repeat. Get the neighbour. Have him stir till his arm is
about to fall off. Have him change arms. When he is finished with his
second arm you should be refreshed. Do it all again or...

Buy a Fizz-X agitator rod. Lots of info at this site...
http://www.winepress.us/forums/index.php

Tater wrote:
> well, next weekend will be step three, which is adding clearing agent
> and other "stuff"
>
> anyway, the instructions say to stir the wine vigorously. the wine is
> in the secondary carboy, my paddle doesnt fit....
>
> well the stirring end doesnt fit, I could use the opposite end and
> stir like mad.
>
> what have others done?
>

What has worked for me *thus far* (3 kits) is to use the other end of
the spoon. Insert and whip to a frenzy, until good head of froth forms.
Remove spoon. replace airlock, Repeat this many times over a 24 hour
period.

This has worked for me, and my arm hasn't fallen off. None of my local
brew shops carry the drill mounted thingy.

Abby

--
The ChildFree Abby Archives - http://www.dismal-light.net/childfreeabby/

Actually, I think it was a good thing to say it three times. Stir a
LOT. Then stir a LOT. Then again and again. Slap the air lock on,
and do it again the next day.

But not too vigourously because you don't want to froth the surface
and intruduce oxygen to the wine.

Steve

On 1 Apr 2007 19:32:21 -0700, "Tater" > wrote:

>On Apr 1, 9:29 pm, Dave Allison > wrote:
>> Used the other end. Stir like crazy. then stir again. this is important.
>> DAve
>>
>>
>>
>> Tater wrote:
>> > anyway, the instructions say to stir the wine vigorously. the wine is
>> > in the secondary carboy, my paddle doesnt fit....
>>
>> > well the stirring end doesnt fit, I could use the opposite end and
>> > stir like mad.
>
>no need to say it three times
>
>considering this is my first kit, i'll probably stir it for a half
>hour, just to be on the safe side

"Tater" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Apr 1, 9:29 pm, Dave Allison > wrote:
>> Used the other end. Stir like crazy. then stir again. this is important.
>> DAve
>>
>>
>>
>> Tater wrote:
>> > anyway, the instructions say to stir the wine vigorously. the wine is
>> > in the secondary carboy, my paddle doesnt fit....
>>
>> > well the stirring end doesnt fit, I could use the opposite end and
>> > stir like mad.
>
> no need to say it three times
>
> considering this is my first kit, i'll probably stir it for a half
> hour, just to be on the safe side
>
>

The stirring is an important step in making kits but rather than stirring
for half an hour, just rack it back into your bucket. Stir as suggested,
and then rack back into the carboy. This is actually the suggested practice
with most kits.

Ray