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Well, after five days of outgassing, the bottles no longer smell like
high-octane gasoline and I can finally bring my 25 bottles of wine in from
the garage.
I came across this spray stuff in the art section of a store. It says
on the can: " Non-yellowing protection for oil, acrylic and watercolor."
After printing up my labels, I taped the sheets of paper to some scrap
plywood. I followed the instructions on the can explicitly and gave the
labels two coats of Krylon Kamar Varnish. After letting them dry in the work
shed for two hours, I brought them into the kitchen.
In less than an hour I had trimmed the labels and stuck them on with
craft glue sticks, the kindergarten stuff, and put the bottles over in a
corner of the kitchen.
In less than another hour I was carrying the bottles out of the house to
the garage. Good Grief! That stuff stunk up the whole house! On the can it
says to use in a well-ventilated area but I thought that was just for the
spraying and drying. I took three days for the smell to dissipate.

Krylon Kamar Varnish (1312)

I'm not condemning the product but if you use it, plan on leaving it
outside for a few days before bringing it into the house.

Regards,

Casey


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On May 8, 9:27 am, "Casey Wilson" > wrote:
> Well, after five days of outgassing, the bottles no longer smell like
> high-octane gasoline and I can finally bring my 25 bottles of wine in from
> the garage.
> I came across this spray stuff in the art section of a store. It says
> on the can: " Non-yellowing protection for oil, acrylic and watercolor."
> After printing up my labels, I taped the sheets of paper to some scrap
> plywood. I followed the instructions on the can explicitly and gave the
> labels two coats of Krylon Kamar Varnish. After letting them dry in the work
> shed for two hours, I brought them into the kitchen.
> In less than an hour I had trimmed the labels and stuck them on with
> craft glue sticks, the kindergarten stuff, and put the bottles over in a
> corner of the kitchen.
> In less than another hour I was carrying the bottles out of the house to
> the garage. Good Grief! That stuff stunk up the whole house! On the can it
> says to use in a well-ventilated area but I thought that was just for the
> spraying and drying. I took three days for the smell to dissipate.
>
> Krylon Kamar Varnish (1312)
>
> I'm not condemning the product but if you use it, plan on leaving it
> outside for a few days before bringing it into the house.
>
> Regards,
>
> Casey


Same experience here, I think it was Krylon too but a different
product. In any case, I only used it once because I found the smell
did never completely go away, so it interfered with wine tasting/
drinking. Plus there are enough chemicals in my life already. These
days I go with the smudged labels if the bottle needs to go in ice
bucket, it's not a big deal really at that point.

Pp

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I'm not going to say go buy a printer but both HP and Epson sell water
resistant ink. That solves both problems and printers are cheap
now. I have Epsons, I had a C80 and now have a CX6600.

There is another product called DataCoat; it stinks but does seem to
dissipate. It's used for prototype electronics labeling

Joe

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I also had that experience. I now use ACE hardware brand semi-gloss,
Polyurethane clear finish. I take outdoors, spray labels, let dry for 30
minutes and bring them back inside.
I use Avery label Designer Pro - free download from Avery - to build the
labels, and put them on to removable labels, so it's easy to remove and
reuse the bottle when done.

We learn as we go. smile. DAve

Casey Wilson wrote:
> Well, after five days of outgassing, the bottles no longer smell like
> high-octane gasoline and I can finally bring my 25 bottles of wine in from
> the garage.
> I came across this spray stuff in the art section of a store. It says
> on the can: " Non-yellowing protection for oil, acrylic and watercolor."
> After printing up my labels, I taped the sheets of paper to some scrap
> plywood. I followed the instructions on the can explicitly and gave the
> labels two coats of Krylon Kamar Varnish. After letting them dry in the work
> shed for two hours, I brought them into the kitchen.
> In less than an hour I had trimmed the labels and stuck them on with
> craft glue sticks, the kindergarten stuff, and put the bottles over in a
> corner of the kitchen.
> In less than another hour I was carrying the bottles out of the house to
> the garage. Good Grief! That stuff stunk up the whole house! On the can it
> says to use in a well-ventilated area but I thought that was just for the
> spraying and drying. I took three days for the smell to dissipate.
>
> Krylon Kamar Varnish (1312)
>
> I'm not condemning the product but if you use it, plan on leaving it
> outside for a few days before bringing it into the house.
>
> Regards,
>
> Casey
>
>

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On May 8, 10:07 am, Joe Sallustio > wrote:
> I'm not going to say go buy a printer but both HP and Epson sell water
> resistant ink. That solves both problems and printers are cheap
> now. I have Epsons, I had a C80 and now have a CX6600.
>
> There is another product called DataCoat; it stinks but does seem to
> dissipate. It's used for prototype electronics labeling
>
> Joe


Funny you should say that Joe - I actually bought an Epson printer for
that reason but the print head got clogged just after the warranty
expired so I had to dump it. Needless to say, I wasn't keen on another
Epson as a replacement and got a Canon instead. So I'm back to water
soluble inks but much happier about the overall printing experience...

I might take the label files to a print shop and get them printed on a
laser printer forthose cases where I'd care about water smudges,
that's another option.

Pp



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As a stop-gap, I just nick some of my wifes hairspray. It works just fine!

"Dave Allison" > wrote in message
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>I also had that experience. I now use ACE hardware brand semi-gloss,
>Polyurethane clear finish. I take outdoors, spray labels, let dry for 30
>minutes and bring them back inside.
> I use Avery label Designer Pro - free download from Avery - to build the
> labels, and put them on to removable labels, so it's easy to remove and
> reuse the bottle when done.
>
> We learn as we go. smile. DAve
>
> Casey Wilson wrote:
>> Well, after five days of outgassing, the bottles no longer smell
>> like high-octane gasoline and I can finally bring my 25 bottles of wine
>> in from the garage.
>> I came across this spray stuff in the art section of a store. It
>> says on the can: " Non-yellowing protection for oil, acrylic and
>> watercolor."
>> After printing up my labels, I taped the sheets of paper to some
>> scrap plywood. I followed the instructions on the can explicitly and gave
>> the labels two coats of Krylon Kamar Varnish. After letting them dry in
>> the work shed for two hours, I brought them into the kitchen.
>> In less than an hour I had trimmed the labels and stuck them on with
>> craft glue sticks, the kindergarten stuff, and put the bottles over in a
>> corner of the kitchen.
>> In less than another hour I was carrying the bottles out of the house
>> to the garage. Good Grief! That stuff stunk up the whole house! On the
>> can it says to use in a well-ventilated area but I thought that was just
>> for the spraying and drying. I took three days for the smell to
>> dissipate.
>>
>> Krylon Kamar Varnish (1312)
>>
>> I'm not condemning the product but if you use it, plan on leaving it
>> outside for a few days before bringing it into the house.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Casey



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On May 8, 7:41 pm, pp > wrote:
> On May 8, 10:07 am, Joe Sallustio > wrote:
>
> > I'm not going to say go buy a printer but both HP and Epson sell water
> > resistant ink. That solves both problems and printers are cheap
> > now. I have Epsons, I had a C80 and now have a CX6600.

>
> > There is another product called DataCoat; it stinks but does seem to
> > dissipate. It's used for prototype electronics labeling

>
> > Joe

>
> Funny you should say that Joe - I actually bought an Epson printer for
> that reason but the print head got clogged just after the warranty
> expired so I had to dump it. Needless to say, I wasn't keen on another
> Epson as a replacement and got a Canon instead. So I'm back to water
> soluble inks but much happier about the overall printing experience...
>
> I might take the label files to a print shop and get them printed on a
> laser printer forthose cases where I'd care about water smudges,
> that's another option.
>
> Pp


I know that feeling... I wonder if a clear coat varnish from the wood
refinishing section might do the trick? They make some that dry
fast. I think minwax and valspar both make clear polyurethanes.

Joe

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Before the spray varnish I got I used to use hairspray like JR. If it doesnt smudge the design before it dries it works
quite well. I had the same problem with 2 of my Epsons pp and took a Canon on with the same pleasure in the result,
funny eh?

I would think that paint on varnishes would crack as the label bent around the bottle, but it may not.

Jim

"Joe Sallustio" > wrote in message ups.com...
> On May 8, 7:41 pm, pp > wrote:
>> On May 8, 10:07 am, Joe Sallustio > wrote:
>>
>> > I'm not going to say go buy a printer but both HP and Epson sell water
>> > resistant ink. That solves both problems and printers are cheap
>> > now. I have Epsons, I had a C80 and now have a CX6600.

>>
>> > There is another product called DataCoat; it stinks but does seem to
>> > dissipate. It's used for prototype electronics labeling

>>
>> > Joe

>>
>> Funny you should say that Joe - I actually bought an Epson printer for
>> that reason but the print head got clogged just after the warranty
>> expired so I had to dump it. Needless to say, I wasn't keen on another
>> Epson as a replacement and got a Canon instead. So I'm back to water
>> soluble inks but much happier about the overall printing experience...
>>
>> I might take the label files to a print shop and get them printed on a
>> laser printer forthose cases where I'd care about water smudges,
>> that's another option.
>>
>> Pp

>
> I know that feeling... I wonder if a clear coat varnish from the wood
> refinishing section might do the trick? They make some that dry
> fast. I think minwax and valspar both make clear polyurethanes.
>
> Joe
>



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"pp" > wrote in message
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> I might take the label files to a print shop and get them printed on a
> laser printer forthose cases where I'd care about water smudges,
> that's another option.


As I said before, I can get 32 labels printed on a laser printer at
Office Max/Staples for about $6. It's much easier than spraying
them with a water resistant fixative.




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Try using a 'laquer' clear coat, it dries oodor free in a few minutes

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