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Kellers rhubarb recipe says the soak the rhubarb for three days in
sulphite, stirring daily. Why? I've never seen that before....is there something special about rhubarb that sulphiting for three whole days will help with? May your grapes be burgeoning Sean |
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I've made Jack's Rhubarb recipe a number of times. Rhubarb is a very hard
fruit to get juice from, hard to break down...so you'll get more of the rhubarb taste if you let it sit and sulphite for 3 days. Now, I have been known to freeze my rhubarb for a couple of months before making my rhubarb wine. Freezing does break down the rhubarb as well, so it is up to you. Jack's recipes are always my starting point...I may change things a bit every now and then, but his recipes are always the place to begin. Darlene "snpm" > wrote in message oups.com... > Kellers rhubarb recipe says the soak the rhubarb for three days in > sulphite, stirring daily. Why? I've never seen that before....is there > something special about rhubarb that sulphiting for three whole days > will help with? > > May your grapes be burgeoning > > Sean > |
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On May 10, 2:18 pm, "Dar V" > wrote:
> I've made Jack's Rhubarb recipe a number of times. Rhubarb is a very hard > fruit to get juice from, hard to break down...so you'll get more of the > rhubarb taste if you let it sit and sulphite for 3 days. Now, I have been > known to freeze my rhubarb for a couple of months before making my rhubarb > wine. Freezing does break down the rhubarb as well, so it is up to you. > Jack's recipes are always my starting point...I may change things a bit > every now and then, but his recipes are always the place to begin. > Darlene > > "snpm" > wrote in message > > oups.com... > > > > > Kellers rhubarb recipe says the soak the rhubarb for three days in > > sulphite, stirring daily. Why? I've never seen that before....is there > > something special about rhubarb that sulphiting for three whole days > > will help with? > > > May your grapes be burgeoning > > > Sean- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thank you Darlene...so am I correct in thinking it is the soaking that is the point here. The sulpihte is so's that the product does not go bad whilst soaking? Or does the sulphite actually help to extract flavor? I am a learner. Sean |
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Sean,
Correct. The soaking helps break down the rhubarb, and the sulphite helps protect it while this is happening. Leaving something soak that long is/was a bit of a concern for me, so that's why I went to freezing the rhubarb for a month or two. You get the same effect - the rhubarb goes from very hard and stiff to soft and stringy. I found a lot of success with cutting the rhubarb into 1 inch pieces and then freezing for a couple of months. After you take the rhubarb out to thaw, there's actually rhubarb juice in the bag when its all done thawing. The whole point is getting the juice from the fruit, so that's why I've gone this route, but the soaking/sulphite works just as well. Darlene "snpm" > wrote in message oups.com... > On May 10, 2:18 pm, "Dar V" > wrote: >> I've made Jack's Rhubarb recipe a number of times. Rhubarb is a very hard >> fruit to get juice from, hard to break down...so you'll get more of the >> rhubarb taste if you let it sit and sulphite for 3 days. Now, I have been >> known to freeze my rhubarb for a couple of months before making my >> rhubarb >> wine. Freezing does break down the rhubarb as well, so it is up to you. >> Jack's recipes are always my starting point...I may change things a bit >> every now and then, but his recipes are always the place to begin. >> Darlene >> >> "snpm" > wrote in message >> >> oups.com... >> >> >> >> > Kellers rhubarb recipe says the soak the rhubarb for three days in >> > sulphite, stirring daily. Why? I've never seen that before....is there >> > something special about rhubarb that sulphiting for three whole days >> > will help with? >> >> > May your grapes be burgeoning >> >> > Sean- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Thank you Darlene...so am I correct in thinking it is the soaking that > is the point here. The sulpihte is so's that the product does not go > bad whilst soaking? Or does the sulphite actually help to extract > flavor? I am a learner. > > Sean > |
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On May 11, 7:28 am, "Dar V" > wrote:
> Sean, > Correct. The soaking helps break down the rhubarb, and the sulphite > helps protect it while this is happening. Leaving something soak that long > is/was a bit of a concern for me, so that's why I went to freezing the > rhubarb for a month or two. You get the same effect - the rhubarb goes from > very hard and stiff to soft and stringy. I found a lot of success with > cutting the rhubarb into 1 inch pieces and then freezing for a couple of > months. After you take the rhubarb out to thaw, there's actually rhubarb > juice in the bag when its all done thawing. The whole point is getting the > juice from the fruit, so that's why I've gone this route, but the > soaking/sulphite works just as well. > Darlene > > "snpm" > wrote in message > > oups.com... > > > > > On May 10, 2:18 pm, "Dar V" > wrote: > >> I've made Jack's Rhubarb recipe a number of times. Rhubarb is a very hard > >> fruit to get juice from, hard to break down...so you'll get more of the > >> rhubarb taste if you let it sit and sulphite for 3 days. Now, I have been > >> known to freeze my rhubarb for a couple of months before making my > >> rhubarb > >> wine. Freezing does break down the rhubarb as well, so it is up to you. > >> Jack's recipes are always my starting point...I may change things a bit > >> every now and then, but his recipes are always the place to begin. > >> Darlene > > >> "snpm" > wrote in message > > groups.com... > > >> > Kellers rhubarb recipe says the soak the rhubarb for three days in > >> > sulphite, stirring daily. Why? I've never seen that before....is there > >> > something special about rhubarb that sulphiting for three whole days > >> > will help with? > > >> > May your grapes be burgeoning > > >> > Sean- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Thank you Darlene...so am I correct in thinking it is the soaking that > > is the point here. The sulpihte is so's that the product does not go > > bad whilst soaking? Or does the sulphite actually help to extract > > flavor? I am a learner. > > > Sean- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Darlene, Terry Garey has one pour boiling water over crushed rhubarb. I wondered have you or anyone you know tried this comparitive method? Any thoughts? This was the way I tried it first time round. It was utterly acrid, like battery acid for the first 18 months, but then mellowed to a delicious gallon of wine which disappeared down my gullet with probably unhealthy speed ![]() Sean |
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Sean,
I do what Terry Garey does as well - pour the hot sugar water over the fruit (thawed rhubarb). There are varying thoughts out there, some think it gives a cooked taste to the wine, others think the hot water sets the color, others don't. I think it depends on your taste-buds...so if you have a recipe you like and the wine tastes good to you, well, I don't know that I'd change it. Did you use precipitated chalk to get rid of the oxalic acid taste? I do do that, and my rhubarb may be a bit much early on, but it usually smoothes out after a year. Darlene "snpm" > wrote in message oups.com... > On May 11, 7:28 am, "Dar V" > wrote: >> Sean, >> Correct. The soaking helps break down the rhubarb, and the sulphite >> helps protect it while this is happening. Leaving something soak that >> long >> is/was a bit of a concern for me, so that's why I went to freezing the >> rhubarb for a month or two. You get the same effect - the rhubarb goes >> from >> very hard and stiff to soft and stringy. I found a lot of success with >> cutting the rhubarb into 1 inch pieces and then freezing for a couple of >> months. After you take the rhubarb out to thaw, there's actually rhubarb >> juice in the bag when its all done thawing. The whole point is getting >> the >> juice from the fruit, so that's why I've gone this route, but the >> soaking/sulphite works just as well. >> Darlene >> >> "snpm" > wrote in message >> >> oups.com... >> >> >> >> > On May 10, 2:18 pm, "Dar V" > wrote: >> >> I've made Jack's Rhubarb recipe a number of times. Rhubarb is a very >> >> hard >> >> fruit to get juice from, hard to break down...so you'll get more of >> >> the >> >> rhubarb taste if you let it sit and sulphite for 3 days. Now, I have >> >> been >> >> known to freeze my rhubarb for a couple of months before making my >> >> rhubarb >> >> wine. Freezing does break down the rhubarb as well, so it is up to >> >> you. >> >> Jack's recipes are always my starting point...I may change things a >> >> bit >> >> every now and then, but his recipes are always the place to begin. >> >> Darlene >> >> >> "snpm" > wrote in message >> >> groups.com... >> >> >> > Kellers rhubarb recipe says the soak the rhubarb for three days in >> >> > sulphite, stirring daily. Why? I've never seen that before....is >> >> > there >> >> > something special about rhubarb that sulphiting for three whole days >> >> > will help with? >> >> >> > May your grapes be burgeoning >> >> >> > Sean- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > Thank you Darlene...so am I correct in thinking it is the soaking that >> > is the point here. The sulpihte is so's that the product does not go >> > bad whilst soaking? Or does the sulphite actually help to extract >> > flavor? I am a learner. >> >> > Sean- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Darlene, > > Terry Garey has one pour boiling water over crushed rhubarb. I > wondered have you or anyone you know tried this comparitive method? > Any thoughts? This was the way I tried it first time round. It was > utterly acrid, like battery acid for the first 18 months, but then > mellowed to a delicious gallon of wine which disappeared down my > gullet with probably unhealthy speed ![]() > > Sean > |
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On May 11, 10:36 am, "Dar V" > wrote:
> Sean, > I do what Terry Garey does as well - pour the hot sugar water over the > fruit (thawed rhubarb). There are varying thoughts out there, some think it > gives a cooked taste to the wine, others think the hot water sets the color, > others don't. I think it depends on your taste-buds...so if you have a > recipe you like and the wine tastes good to you, well, I don't know that I'd > change it. Did you use precipitated chalk to get rid of the oxalic acid > taste? I do do that, and my rhubarb may be a bit much early on, but it > usually smoothes out after a year. > Darlene > > "snpm" > wrote in message > > oups.com... > > > > > On May 11, 7:28 am, "Dar V" > wrote: > >> Sean, > >> Correct. The soaking helps break down the rhubarb, and the sulphite > >> helps protect it while this is happening. Leaving something soak that > >> long > >> is/was a bit of a concern for me, so that's why I went to freezing the > >> rhubarb for a month or two. You get the same effect - the rhubarb goes > >> from > >> very hard and stiff to soft and stringy. I found a lot of success with > >> cutting the rhubarb into 1 inch pieces and then freezing for a couple of > >> months. After you take the rhubarb out to thaw, there's actually rhubarb > >> juice in the bag when its all done thawing. The whole point is getting > >> the > >> juice from the fruit, so that's why I've gone this route, but the > >> soaking/sulphite works just as well. > >> Darlene > > >> "snpm" > wrote in message > > groups.com... > > >> > On May 10, 2:18 pm, "Dar V" > wrote: > >> >> I've made Jack's Rhubarb recipe a number of times. Rhubarb is a very > >> >> hard > >> >> fruit to get juice from, hard to break down...so you'll get more of > >> >> the > >> >> rhubarb taste if you let it sit and sulphite for 3 days. Now, I have > >> >> been > >> >> known to freeze my rhubarb for a couple of months before making my > >> >> rhubarb > >> >> wine. Freezing does break down the rhubarb as well, so it is up to > >> >> you. > >> >> Jack's recipes are always my starting point...I may change things a > >> >> bit > >> >> every now and then, but his recipes are always the place to begin. > >> >> Darlene > > >> >> "snpm" > wrote in message > > >> groups.com... > > >> >> > Kellers rhubarb recipe says the soak the rhubarb for three days in > >> >> > sulphite, stirring daily. Why? I've never seen that before....is > >> >> > there > >> >> > something special about rhubarb that sulphiting for three whole days > >> >> > will help with? > > >> >> > May your grapes be burgeoning > > >> >> > Sean- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> > Thank you Darlene...so am I correct in thinking it is the soaking that > >> > is the point here. The sulpihte is so's that the product does not go > >> > bad whilst soaking? Or does the sulphite actually help to extract > >> > flavor? I am a learner. > > >> > Sean- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Darlene, > > > Terry Garey has one pour boiling water over crushed rhubarb. I > > wondered have you or anyone you know tried this comparitive method? > > Any thoughts? This was the way I tried it first time round. It was > > utterly acrid, like battery acid for the first 18 months, but then > > mellowed to a delicious gallon of wine which disappeared down my > > gullet with probably unhealthy speed ![]() > > > Sean- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Darlene, No, I didn't bring down the acid last time. I will this time, as I'm going per Keller this time. I have two rhubarb plants going now, so plenty of room for experiemntation in the coming years. No rush, right? Thanks for your help! Sean |
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Sean,
Using the precipitated chalk to get rid of the oxalic acid does help. I just picked some rhubarb myself, so I'm ready to freeze it. Good-luck. Darlene "snpm" > wrote in message ps.com... > On May 11, 10:36 am, "Dar V" > wrote: >> Sean, >> I do what Terry Garey does as well - pour the hot sugar water over >> the >> fruit (thawed rhubarb). There are varying thoughts out there, some think >> it >> gives a cooked taste to the wine, others think the hot water sets the >> color, >> others don't. I think it depends on your taste-buds...so if you have a >> recipe you like and the wine tastes good to you, well, I don't know that >> I'd >> change it. Did you use precipitated chalk to get rid of the oxalic acid >> taste? I do do that, and my rhubarb may be a bit much early on, but it >> usually smoothes out after a year. >> Darlene >> >> "snpm" > wrote in message >> >> oups.com... >> >> >> >> > On May 11, 7:28 am, "Dar V" > wrote: >> >> Sean, >> >> Correct. The soaking helps break down the rhubarb, and the >> >> sulphite >> >> helps protect it while this is happening. Leaving something soak that >> >> long >> >> is/was a bit of a concern for me, so that's why I went to freezing the >> >> rhubarb for a month or two. You get the same effect - the rhubarb goes >> >> from >> >> very hard and stiff to soft and stringy. I found a lot of success with >> >> cutting the rhubarb into 1 inch pieces and then freezing for a couple >> >> of >> >> months. After you take the rhubarb out to thaw, there's actually >> >> rhubarb >> >> juice in the bag when its all done thawing. The whole point is getting >> >> the >> >> juice from the fruit, so that's why I've gone this route, but the >> >> soaking/sulphite works just as well. >> >> Darlene >> >> >> "snpm" > wrote in message >> >> groups.com... >> >> >> > On May 10, 2:18 pm, "Dar V" > wrote: >> >> >> I've made Jack's Rhubarb recipe a number of times. Rhubarb is a >> >> >> very >> >> >> hard >> >> >> fruit to get juice from, hard to break down...so you'll get more of >> >> >> the >> >> >> rhubarb taste if you let it sit and sulphite for 3 days. Now, I >> >> >> have >> >> >> been >> >> >> known to freeze my rhubarb for a couple of months before making my >> >> >> rhubarb >> >> >> wine. Freezing does break down the rhubarb as well, so it is up to >> >> >> you. >> >> >> Jack's recipes are always my starting point...I may change things a >> >> >> bit >> >> >> every now and then, but his recipes are always the place to begin. >> >> >> Darlene >> >> >> >> "snpm" > wrote in message >> >> >> groups.com... >> >> >> >> > Kellers rhubarb recipe says the soak the rhubarb for three days >> >> >> > in >> >> >> > sulphite, stirring daily. Why? I've never seen that before....is >> >> >> > there >> >> >> > something special about rhubarb that sulphiting for three whole >> >> >> > days >> >> >> > will help with? >> >> >> >> > May your grapes be burgeoning >> >> >> >> > Sean- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> > Thank you Darlene...so am I correct in thinking it is the soaking >> >> > that >> >> > is the point here. The sulpihte is so's that the product does not go >> >> > bad whilst soaking? Or does the sulphite actually help to extract >> >> > flavor? I am a learner. >> >> >> > Sean- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > Darlene, >> >> > Terry Garey has one pour boiling water over crushed rhubarb. I >> > wondered have you or anyone you know tried this comparitive method? >> > Any thoughts? This was the way I tried it first time round. It was >> > utterly acrid, like battery acid for the first 18 months, but then >> > mellowed to a delicious gallon of wine which disappeared down my >> > gullet with probably unhealthy speed ![]() >> >> > Sean- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Darlene, > > No, I didn't bring down the acid last time. I will this time, as I'm > going per Keller this time. I have two rhubarb plants going now, so > plenty of room for experiemntation in the coming years. No rush, > right? > > Thanks for your help! > > Sean > |
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I've done Rhubarb a couple of years doing this recipe, it's easy and
works well. The oxalic acid bit doesn't seem to be a problem, the wine tastes fine as it is! http://www.zen37219.zen.co.uk/recipes.htm#rhubarb Cheers Peter |
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On May 18, 4:30 am, Peter > wrote:
> I've done Rhubarb a couple of years doing this recipe, it's easy and > works well. The oxalic acid bit doesn't seem to be a problem, the wine > tastes fine as it is!http://www.zen37219.zen.co.uk/recipes.htm#rhubarb > > Cheers > Peter Amazing Peter; A rhubarb recipe that adds acid blend!!! Well, fair enough, the proof of the pudding andall that. When I have a glut, I'll try it! Thank you! |
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Just my 2 cents worth, there are a lot of different types of rhubarb which
could mean a fair amount of differences in acid, especially when you're talking about recipes from different countries, so please be aware of this. I've been a gardener longer than I've made wine: climate, soil type, and plant type can make a difference in your fruit and thus would affect the wine. As one who likes to experiment myself, well, I can only encourage you to try it. Darlene ;o) "snpm" > wrote in message oups.com... > On May 18, 4:30 am, Peter > wrote: >> I've done Rhubarb a couple of years doing this recipe, it's easy and >> works well. The oxalic acid bit doesn't seem to be a problem, the wine >> tastes fine as it is!http://www.zen37219.zen.co.uk/recipes.htm#rhubarb >> >> Cheers >> Peter > > Amazing Peter; A rhubarb recipe that adds acid blend!!! Well, fair > enough, the proof of the pudding andall that. When I have a glut, I'll > try it! Thank you! > |
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