why do some winemakers recommend only putting rose petals in the
freezer for a short number of days?

Anyone know a evidence-based source for this wisdom?

On 28 May 2007 17:30:13 -0700, against all advice, something
compelled snpm >, to say:

> why do some winemakers recommend only putting rose petals in the
> freezer for a short number of days?


No ice cream?
--

Life is too short to play cheap guitars.

Maseration (sp?) it breaks down the fibers and extracts mor juice. I do it
with all of my fruits as well.


"snpm" > wrote in message
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> why do some winemakers recommend only putting rose petals in the
> freezer for a short number of days?
>
> Anyone know a evidence-based source for this wisdom?
>

On May 28, 5:39 pm, Steve Daniels > wrote:
> On 28 May 2007 17:30:13 -0700, against all advice, something
> compelled snpm >, to say:
>
> > why do some winemakers recommend only putting rose petals in the
> > freezer for a short number of days?
>
> No ice cream?
> --
>
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.

lol....groan!

Errr, no, really.....

On May 28, 6:24 pm, "Walter Venables" > wrote:
> Maseration (sp?) it breaks down the fibers and extracts mor juice. I do it
> with all of my fruits as well.
>
> "snpm" > wrote in message
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> oups.com...
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>
> > why do some winemakers recommend only putting rose petals in the
> > freezer for a short number of days?
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I considered maceration. Rose petals dont need much macerating
though....I mean you can forget maceration and in fact perform
disintegration with a finger and thumb rolling motion.

A study of many years ago in Germany (and now forgotten
by everyone) showed that Vitamine C (ascobine acid)
deteriorates (is that spelled ok) when frozen.
Rose petals are full of Vitamine C.

But then again when you soak them in hot or boiling water
any vitamin C will be gone anyhow.......





On Mon, 28 May 2007 17:30:13 -0700, snpm wrote:

> why do some winemakers recommend only putting rose petals in the
> freezer for a short number of days?
>
> Anyone know a evidence-based source for this wisdom?

Beats me. I only freeze fruits in order to get a better yield, but petals ?
I made a gallon of rose petal wine last year using fresh petals and I surely
couldn't dream of getting more flavor (4 cups for a gallon). I didn't scald
them with boiling water either, I used some boiled water cooled down to room
temp and sulfite. I once made the mistake of scalding lilac petals with
boiling water and I was disappointed with the resulting wine.

However, my wife did freeze some rose petals to make some gelly later and it
worked fine.

"snpm" > a écrit dans le message de
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> why do some winemakers recommend only putting rose petals in the
> freezer for a short number of days?
>
> Anyone know a evidence-based source for this wisdom?
>

On May 28, 5:30 pm, snpm > wrote:
> why do some winemakers recommend only putting rose petals in the
> freezer for a short number of days?
>
> Anyone know a evidence-based source for this wisdom?

I think I have failed to make myself clear, yet again. I am freezing
these rose petals until I have enough for a batch, not for purposes of
enhancement. The advice Im following is that if you need to freeze
them until you have enough, you shouldnt freeze them for more than
four days. I am wondering why no more than four days. Sorry for my
ambiguous writing!

I suspect it may be because rose petals develop "freezer burn" rather
quickly. Perhaps adding a little water and wrapping them tightly
would buy you something longer than four days.

On May 29, 10:53 am, snpm > wrote:
> On May 28, 5:30 pm, snpm > wrote:
>
> > why do some winemakers recommend only putting rose petals in the
> > freezer for a short number of days?
>
> > Anyone know a evidence-based source for this wisdom?
>
> I think I have failed to make myself clear, yet again. I am freezing
> these rose petals until I have enough for a batch, not for purposes of
> enhancement. The advice Im following is that if you need to freeze
> them until you have enough, you shouldnt freeze them for more than
> four days. I am wondering why no more than four days. Sorry for my
> ambiguous writing!

shbailey wrote:
................

> I suspect it may be because rose petals develop
> "freezer burn" rather
> quickly. Perhaps adding a little water and
> wrapping them tightly would buy you something
> longer than four days.

I have never tried it but what about adding enough
water to cover and freeze them that way.

hence, rosewater

"snpm" > wrote in message
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> why do some winemakers recommend only putting rose petals in the
> freezer for a short number of days?
>
> Anyone know a evidence-based source for this wisdom?
>