Hi all,
are there any winemakers in this group who own or work for winemaking
companies? I am interested in finding out what the most popular
winemaking packages are around the world, and by what sized
organizations.

thanks in advance,

Brett

On Jun 14, 12:44 am, Electric Monk > wrote:
> Hi all,
> are there any winemakers in this group who own or work for winemaking
> companies? I am interested in finding out what the most popular
> winemaking packages are around the world, and by what sized
> organizations.
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> Brett

My favorite is Lazy Hill Winelog (http://www.chadandtrish.com/winelog/
default.htm). Of course I am biases, because I wrote it

Electric Monk wrote:
> Hi all,
> are there any winemakers in this group who own or work for winemaking
> companies? I am interested in finding out what the most popular
> winemaking packages are around the world, and by what sized
> organizations.
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> Brett

I am the developer of Amphora Wine Log. This software is primarily
aimed at the small scale winemaker. Many home winemakers use Amphora.
In addition, it is currently used by about 200 commercial wineries.
You can find more information at the website:

http://www.fermsoft.com/

Robert Tyrie
www.fermsoft.com

On Jun 14, 1:44 am, Electric Monk > wrote:
> Hi all,
> are there any winemakers in this group who own or work for winemaking
> companies? I am interested in finding out what the most popular
> winemaking packages are around the world, and by what sized
> organizations.
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> Brett

Hello Brett-

I've tried Amphora- there's a trial verison available on the web.
It's very powerful with lots of tracking features, but I found it too
difficult to use/learn for my home production. I had issues with
(which you might not) with splitting fermentation tanks, keeping track
of smaller and smaller quantities (ie, 30 gallons to 2x 14 gallon
containers, then a bunch of 3L test batches). When I got done it was
just easier to draw it on paper to keep track of everything.

Which is not to knock Amphora- blame the problem (me) and my inability
to learn the software.

But your question is more aimed at research for a market? You'd have
better luck contacting Winemaker or wine business (forget the name-
just had an article on Corks) and asking them if they have any
aggregate statitistics.

If you do beer- there's a brew software too that isn't very suited for
wine, but it can do in a pinch...

Good luck!

On Jun 20, 7:08 am, wrote:
> On Jun 14, 1:44 am, Electric Monk > wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > are there any winemakers in this group who own or work for winemaking
> > companies? I am interested in finding out what the most popular
> > winemaking packages are around the world, and by what sized
> > organizations.
>
> > thanks in advance,
>
> > Brett
>
> Hello Brett-
>
> I've tried Amphora- there's a trial verison available on the web.
> It's very powerful with lots of tracking features, but I found it too
> difficult to use/learn for my home production. I had issues with
> (which you might not) with splitting fermentation tanks, keeping track
> of smaller and smaller quantities (ie, 30 gallons to 2x 14 gallon
> containers, then a bunch of 3L test batches). When I got done it was
> just easier to draw it on paper to keep track of everything.
>
> Which is not to knock Amphora- blame the problem (me) and my inability
> to learn the software.
>
> But your question is more aimed at research for a market? You'd have
> better luck contacting Winemaker or wine business (forget the name-
> just had an article on Corks) and asking them if they have any
> aggregate statitistics.
>
> If you do beer- there's a brew software too that isn't very suited for
> wine, but it can do in a pinch...
>
> Good luck!

Thanks for that. I guess it is more aimed at market research. I've
scanned through the various wine rags but haven't found anything so
far.


Thanks again,

Brett

I would echo purdue's comments. After seeing your post, I downloaded
the trial version and spent many hours yesterday trying to recreate
one of last year's batches from my fairly extensive journal. The tool
seems robust and complete - but is difficult to figure out for smaller
production (10 - 20 - 30 gallon).
Honestly, I would love to ahve a tool like this that IS well suited to
the small home winemaker, but this seems to be geared to the larger
commercial winery.

In article
.com>Electric Monk
> wrote:

> On Jun 20, 7:08 am, wrote:
>> On Jun 14, 1:44 am, Electric Monk > wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> > are there any winemakers in this group who own or work for
>> winemaking > companies? I am interested in finding out what the most
>> popular
>> > winemaking packages are around the world, and by what sized
>> > organizations.
>>
>> > thanks in advance,
>>
>> > Brett
>>
>> Hello Brett-
>>
>> I've tried Amphora- there's a trial verison available on the web.
>> It's very powerful with lots of tracking features, but I found it
>> too difficult to use/learn for my home production. I had issues
>> with (which you might not) with splitting fermentation tanks,
>> keeping track of smaller and smaller quantities (ie, 30 gallons to
>> 2x 14 gallon containers, then a bunch of 3L test batches). When I
>> got done it was just easier to draw it on paper to keep track of
>> everything.
>>
>> Which is not to knock Amphora- blame the problem (me) and my
>> inability to learn the software.
>>
>> But your question is more aimed at research for a market? You'd
>> have better luck contacting Winemaker or wine business (forget the
>> name- just had an article on Corks) and asking them if they have any
>> aggregate statitistics.
>>
>> If you do beer- there's a brew software too that isn't very suited
>> for wine, but it can do in a pinch...
>>
>> Good luck!

> Thanks for that. I guess it is more aimed at market research.
> I'vescanned through the various wine rags but haven't found anything
> so
> far.
>
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Brett
>
>

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If the question is about commercial wineries, then there are only two
software packages in use. Winemaker's Database (WMDB: http://www.wmdb.com/)
which is an old program written in FoxPro and AMS. I have a lot more
experience with WMDB.

Both packages tend to have more to do with cellar additions and TTB
compliance and slightly less with analysis (well they do it they're
just not directed towards it). I have worked at a large winery (top 10
in the world by volume) that used a specialize Access database for
analysis. Overall, I think the field is a little far behind and an
updated system would do us good.
Michael


On Jun 13, 10:44 pm, Electric Monk > wrote:
> Hi all,
> are there any winemakers in this group who own or work for winemaking
> companies? I am interested in finding out what the most popular
> winemaking packages are around the world, and by what sized
> organizations.
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> Brett

On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:54:39 -0000, against all advice, something
compelled MikeC >, to say:

> Overall, I think the field is a little far behind and an
> updated system would do us good.


What would you like to see?
--

Life is too short to play cheap guitars.

On Jun 28, 10:54 pm, MikeC > wrote:
> If the question is about commercial wineries, then there are only two
> software packages in use. Winemaker's Database (WMDB:http://www.wmdb.com/)
> which is an old program written in FoxPro and AMS. I have a lot more
> experience with WMDB.
>
> Both packages tend to have more to do with cellar additions and TTB
> compliance and slightly less with analysis (well they do it they're
> just not directed towards it). I have worked at a large winery (top 10
> in the world by volume) that used a specialize Access database for
> analysis. Overall, I think the field is a little far behind and an
> updated system would do us good.
> Michael
>
> On Jun 13, 10:44 pm, Electric Monk > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
> > are there any winemakers in this group who own or work for winemaking
> > companies? I am interested in finding out what the most popular
> > winemaking packages are around the world, and by what sized
> > organizations.
>
> > thanks in advance,
>
> > Brett- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

In Australia, I've heard of Winefile (DBase, I think), EzyWine
(Foxpro), and the Advantage suite from TSM. Oh, and WIM (from Oracle),
but that's still being piloted - and probably doesn't suit smaller
operations anyway.
For the US, I'd heard of AMS, eSkye,WiPS, Advantage (by Modular), and
Vinsight.
All these are described as software suites, which manage from the
vineyard to sale of finished product. The review of WMDB I saw put it
in the 'Wine Production" category, meaning it was more specialised.

Mike, had you heard of any of these others?

Brett

Robert, Any issues running this on VISTA?

> wrote in message
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>
> Electric Monk wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> are there any winemakers in this group who own or work for winemaking
>> companies? I am interested in finding out what the most popular
>> winemaking packages are around the world, and by what sized
>> organizations.
>>
>> thanks in advance,
>>
>> Brett
>
> I am the developer of Amphora Wine Log. This software is primarily
> aimed at the small scale winemaker. Many home winemakers use Amphora.
> In addition, it is currently used by about 200 commercial wineries.
> You can find more information at the website:
>
> http://www.fermsoft.com/
>
> Robert Tyrie
> www.fermsoft.com
>

No, there are no issues running the software on Vista. You can
download the trial if you want to be sure.

The software is designed to run on nearly every operating system
including the various flavours of Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, and
others. Most Amphora users on Windows are running XP, but a few have
switched to Vista without any problems. You can reach me via the
contact page on the fermsoft website if you have any questions.

Robert Tyrie
www.fermsoft.com

On Jul 13, 9:12 am, "Tim" > wrote:
> Robert, Any issues running this on VISTA?
>
> > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...
>
>
> > I am the developer of Amphora Wine Log. This software is primarily
> > aimed at the small scale winemaker. Many home winemakers use Amphora.
> > In addition, it is currently used by about 200 commercial wineries.
> > You can find more information at the website:
>
> >http://www.fermsoft.com/
>
> > Robert Tyrie
> >www.fermsoft.com

I'm currently writing web-based winemaking software for my very small
winery (looking to possibly add a supplier database as well). When
I'm done with it, I'll make it open source and post a link to this
group. -David