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Dick Adams[_3_] 03-07-2007 12:08 PM

Removing Laminated Labels
 
How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?
Soaking in hot water is ineffective.
Brillo didn't even scratch it.
Heating in a microwave on high for 5 minutes did nothing,


Any ideas?

Dick

jim 03-07-2007 02:13 PM

Removing Laminated Labels
 
I'm not 100% sure of the type of label you mean, but for stubborn
labels I use a Stanley knife blade (like a large razorblade but from a
builders knife) held carefully at about 30 degrees to the bottle and
held firmly.

This usually scrapes off the label and adhesive goo. This works well
especially if I take many small scrapes off rather than trying to get
the label off too quickly.

If that fails, the lable might benefit from being slashed in a diamond-
cut pattern to allow water to penetrate and soak before using the
above method.

If the laminate doesnt contain any paper at all, a squirt of WD40 or
some other solvent/lubricant might help to loosen the label.

Jim

On Jul 3, 12:08 pm, (Dick Adams) wrote:
> How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?
> Soaking in hot water is ineffective.
> Brillo didn't even scratch it.
> Heating in a microwave on high for 5 minutes did nothing,
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Dick




bobdrob 03-07-2007 02:14 PM

Removing Laminated Labels
 
i've had better luck soaking them with genuine imitation TSP-like product
for a couple of days first, then using the ol' razor blade & elbowgrease.
step 2 is applying nail polish remover on the gum residue using a green
scrubby pad.
those sticky SOB's are the main reason i gave up on scavenging empties. but,
free is free...

"Dick Adams" > wrote in message
...
> How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?
> Soaking in hot water is ineffective.
> Brillo didn't even scratch it.
> Heating in a microwave on high for 5 minutes did nothing,
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Dick




[email protected] 03-07-2007 03:32 PM

Removing Laminated Labels
 
On Jul 3, 4:08 am, (Dick Adams) wrote:
> How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?


Goof-off removes almost anything. It can be found at most hardware
stores around the US.

Greg










beer713 03-07-2007 03:43 PM

Removing Laminated Labels
 

> How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?



All good ideas. The best way for me is the buy new bottles. LOL

Joe Sallustio 03-07-2007 05:16 PM

Removing Laminated Labels
 
On Jul 3, 10:32 am, wrote:
> On Jul 3, 4:08 am, (Dick Adams) wrote:
>
> > How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?

>
> Goof-off removes almost anything. It can be found at most hardware
> stores around the US.
>
> Greg


I use acetone, it's cheap. You can peel off a warm label and use the
acetone for the residue.

Joe


[email protected] 03-07-2007 06:31 PM

Removing Laminated Labels
 
On Jul 3, 7:08 am, (Dick Adams) wrote:
> How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?
> Soaking in hot water is ineffective.
> Brillo didn't even scratch it.
> Heating in a microwave on high for 5 minutes did nothing,
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Dick


Throw them out.

Laminated labels will fall apart with acetone or various other
solvents, but ask yourself: Why spend the effort? Unless you've got
cases of the bottles, the time you'll spend isn't worth the savings of
the bottle.

If you want the label, that's a different story- try placing the
bottle in boiling water for 10 minutes. That will soften the plastic/
glue considerably, then using very insulated pads strip it off with a
sharp knife. Repeated hot water baths will be required.

I say this as I clean/delabel all the bottles, and I've gotten to the
point that, with the contacts I"ve made, it's just easier to take
everything they offer and dispose of the ones I don't- usually give
them away on FreeCycle for decorations or other wine makers who aren't
so discerning ;)

Jason


Dave Allison 03-07-2007 08:31 PM

Removing Laminated Labels
 
Well, we had thread discussions on this prior. For me, I soak bottles
for 24 hours in water and 5% (a couple ounces) of janitorial strength
ammonia. About 20% of labels just fall off. 60% loosen them so I can use
a flat razor at 30 degree angle on the label and peel them off. 15% are
real stubborn and use some sort of new glue - these I do step 1 and 2
above, and then spray with "Goof Off" or acetone, repeat step 2 and buff
with a paper towel until it's clean. 5% of used bottles - I just give
up and throw away. (anyone want them?)

Since I use Goof Off, I put bottle in dish washer and then store upside
down in a cardboard wine case when dry.

When I use the bottles, I briefly soak in warm water with a little "5
minute rinse" and then rinse in cool water. I do this and have found
it's a nice way to ensure they are clean, and if any bugs or spiders, or
whatever gets in the bottle - is caught prior to putting new wine in
them. This may not be necessary, but I've found dead flies, spiders,
etc. So I like doing this extra step.

I use Avery #6464 Removable 3 1/4 x 4 labels, which easily come off. I
spray them with clear poly to make them water proof prior to putting on
the bottles.

Well, there's more than you asked for.

DAve


Dick Adams wrote:
> How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?
> Soaking in hot water is ineffective.
> Brillo didn't even scratch it.
> Heating in a microwave on high for 5 minutes did nothing,
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Dick


Bob Becker 03-07-2007 10:53 PM

Removing Laminated Labels
 

"Joe Sallustio" > wrote in message
oups.com...

> I use acetone, it's cheap. You can peel off a warm label and use the
> acetone for the residue.


Acetone will remove almost anything, but remember that
it's highly volatile so don't use it near open flames.



Bob Becker 03-07-2007 10:55 PM

Removing Laminated Labels
 

"Dick Adams" > wrote in message
...
> How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?
> Soaking in hot water is ineffective.
> Brillo didn't even scratch it.
> Heating in a microwave on high for 5 minutes did nothing,


I have had a lot of these recently.
I soak them in hot sudsy water, scrape off the outer label with
a razor blade scraper thingy, and then rub the rest of the
goo off with mineral spirits.
Works OK.





Quixote 03-07-2007 11:10 PM

Removing Laminated Labels
 

"Bob Becker" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dick Adams" > wrote in message
> ...
>> How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?
>> Soaking in hot water is ineffective.
>> Brillo didn't even scratch it.
>> Heating in a microwave on high for 5 minutes did nothing,

>
> I have had a lot of these recently.
> I soak them in hot sudsy water, scrape off the outer label with
> a razor blade scraper thingy, and then rub the rest of the
> goo off with mineral spirits.
> Works OK.
>


I word of caution, fill them with fresh water to hold them down and do not
let the soaking solution fill over the tops of the bottles. On one of my
first attempts at doing this one of the adhesives that dissolved, made its
way inside the bottles only to collect and adhere to the inner surface of
the bottle.

On a good note I found an extremely easy way to clean inside bottles easily
(finally...) and removes hard to get substances... :^) Drop a handful of
artificial aquarium gravel in the bottle with some soap. Shake a little...
clean as a whistle.

Quixote



Dick Adams[_3_] 05-07-2007 02:33 AM

Removing Laminated Labels
 
>> How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?

> All good ideas. The best way for me is the buy new bottles. LOL


But, I have scoffed up some quality bottles that are thick enough
to minimize the risk o becoming bottle bombs. Once I know how
to get the labels off easily, they become the least expensive way.


Dick

Dick Adams[_3_] 05-07-2007 03:09 AM

Removing Laminated Labels
 
I wrote:
> How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?
> Soaking in hot water is ineffective.
> Brillo didn't even scratch it.
> Heating in a microwave on high for 5 minutes did nothing,
>
> Any ideas?


I thank everyone who responded, The problem is 'laminated
'labels' may not be the correct terminology. My wife
suggested they were baked-on decals.

These are 750 ml Belgian Dark Strong Ale bottles with
labeling is similar to Yingling Lager bottles.

They will soak in a TSP solution overnight.

Dick

Trid 06-07-2007 08:29 PM

Removing Laminated Labels
 
On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, (Dick Adams) wrote:
> I wrote:
> > How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?
> > Soaking in hot water is ineffective.
> > Brillo didn't even scratch it.
> > Heating in a microwave on high for 5 minutes did nothing,

>
> > Any ideas?

>
> I thank everyone who responded, The problem is 'laminated
> 'labels' may not be the correct terminology. My wife
> suggested they were baked-on decals.
>
> These are 750 ml Belgian Dark Strong Ale bottles with
> labeling is similar to Yingling Lager bottles.
>
> They will soak in a TSP solution overnight.
>
> Dick


Do they look like they were screen printed with the ink directly on
the bottle? As I understand, that style is effectively a baked on
enamel. I'm still chewing on ideas to get that off, too. No luck
with acetone...next step is goof off (xylene, so don't get it near
plastic) and if that doesn't work, MEK (methyl-ethyl-ketone). If that
doesn't work, then I need to buy the inventor of indestructible
printing a drink.

Trid
-does a hammer count?


bobdrob 07-07-2007 01:35 PM

Removing Laminated Labels
 
if the label is in fact painted on ( pyroglaze is the term i believe is used
indicating its baked on) then the only recourse is the blade. I scraped off
a microbrew label from one 64 oz growler for a gift project and that was
enough for me!
Not worth the time or the effort IMHO. unless you really really really need
that bottle......


"Trid" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, (Dick Adams) wrote:
>> I wrote:
>> > How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?
>> > Soaking in hot water is ineffective.
>> > Brillo didn't even scratch it.
>> > Heating in a microwave on high for 5 minutes did nothing,

>>
>> > Any ideas?

>>
>> I thank everyone who responded, The problem is 'laminated
>> 'labels' may not be the correct terminology. My wife
>> suggested they were baked-on decals.
>>
>> These are 750 ml Belgian Dark Strong Ale bottles with
>> labeling is similar to Yingling Lager bottles.
>>
>> They will soak in a TSP solution overnight.
>>
>> Dick

>
> Do they look like they were screen printed with the ink directly on
> the bottle? As I understand, that style is effectively a baked on
> enamel. I'm still chewing on ideas to get that off, too. No luck
> with acetone...next step is goof off (xylene, so don't get it near
> plastic) and if that doesn't work, MEK (methyl-ethyl-ketone). If that
> doesn't work, then I need to buy the inventor of indestructible
> printing a drink.
>
> Trid
> -does a hammer count?
>




jim 07-07-2007 02:29 PM

Removing Laminated Labels
 
I was just thinking... Is the label so big that you couldn't cover it
over with your own labels if they were big enough?

Just a thought as I say...

JIm

On Jul 7, 1:35 pm, "bobdrob" > wrote:
> if the label is in fact painted on ( pyroglaze is the term i believe is used
> indicating its baked on) then the only recourse is the blade. I scraped off
> a microbrew label from one 64 oz growler for a gift project and that was
> enough for me!
> Not worth the time or the effort IMHO. unless you really really really need
> that bottle......
>
> "Trid" > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
> > On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, (Dick Adams) wrote:
> >> I wrote:
> >> > How do you remove laminated labels from wine bottles?
> >> > Soaking in hot water is ineffective.
> >> > Brillo didn't even scratch it.
> >> > Heating in a microwave on high for 5 minutes did nothing,

>
> >> > Any ideas?

>
> >> I thank everyone who responded, The problem is 'laminated
> >> 'labels' may not be the correct terminology. My wife
> >> suggested they were baked-on decals.

>
> >> These are 750 ml Belgian Dark Strong Ale bottles with
> >> labeling is similar to Yingling Lager bottles.

>
> >> They will soak in a TSP solution overnight.

>
> >> Dick

>
> > Do they look like they were screen printed with the ink directly on
> > the bottle? As I understand, that style is effectively a baked on
> > enamel. I'm still chewing on ideas to get that off, too. No luck
> > with acetone...next step is goof off (xylene, so don't get it near
> > plastic) and if that doesn't work, MEK (methyl-ethyl-ketone). If that
> > doesn't work, then I need to buy the inventor of indestructible
> > printing a drink.

>
> > Trid
> > -does a hammer count?




Dick Adams[_3_] 08-07-2007 02:20 AM

Removing Laminated Labels
 
Next try is goof-off. After that it is buying new bottles.

Dick


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