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I'm wondering if anyone has built a simple rack for holding the bottle
securely while it is being filled, or what systems this group might suggest to make the process a little easier. I generally find myself alone in the basement when bottling...my wife isn't terribly interested in the hobby and my kids are too young to assist. I have an automatic bottle filler which works great, but I generally find myself wishing I had an extra hand or two to hold the bottles steady. Any quick ideas, gimmicks, tools or thoughts on this subject??? Paul |
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Greg , kinda off topic , well really off topic .
What do you think of the fireworks guys that keep coming to Fargo ? Greg > > > Hmm --- I'm not that organized. I use a wine box. > > -- > Greg Cook > http://homepage.mac.com/gregcook/Wine > > (remove spamblocker from my email) > |
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I use milk crate, it can hold 16 bordeaux style bottles. It is very
convenient and cheap. Also all my carboy are in a milk crate. They have solid grip to move them. Séb |
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seb wrote:
> I use milk crate, it can hold 16 bordeaux style bottles. It is very > convenient and cheap. Also all my carboy are in a milk crate. They > have solid grip to move them. Count me as a fan of the milk crate approach as well. Good things, those crates are. -- charles "Once ... in the wilds of Afghanistan, I lost my corkscrew, and we were forced to live on nothing but food and water for days." - W.C. Fields |
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On 3/30/04 12:10 PM, in article , "greg boyd"
> wrote: > Greg , kinda off topic , well really off topic . > What do you think of the fireworks guys that keep coming to Fargo ? > Greg > > > >> >> >> Hmm --- I'm not that organized. I use a wine box. >> >> -- >> Greg Cook >> http://homepage.mac.com/gregcook/Wine >> >> (remove spamblocker from my email) >> > > Hmm, yes, that is pretty far off topic. To answer your question -- it's fantastic. Nowhere else can you see that many fireworks in one place. I'm glad they keep holding their convention here. It is really amazing. Are you into pyrotechnics, or just happen to live near Fargo? If you are ever around, stop by and we can taste a little wine. For those that don't know what we are talking about, the Pyrotechnics Guild International holds their annual convention in Fargo about every other year. It is a week long fireworks display that is just terrific. I see they will be back this August, and again in 2007, 2009, and 2011. With our wide open skies, the fireworks really shine. More info here . . . http://www.pgi.org/PGIconvsites.htm -- Greg Cook http://homepage.mac.com/gregcook/Wine (remove spamblocker from my email) |
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I might be streching things a bit far but I put put the bottles in a clean
large white plastic tray. I only have a wand tosiphon so I always manage to spill some wine. When I am finished I toss the wine that was spilled to the tray into my vinegar batch. Joe "Paul" > wrote in message om... > I'm wondering if anyone has built a simple rack for holding the bottle > securely while it is being filled, or what systems this group might > suggest to make the process a little easier. I generally find myself > alone in the basement when bottling...my wife isn't terribly > interested in the hobby and my kids are too young to assist. I have > an automatic bottle filler which works great, but I generally find > myself wishing I had an extra hand or two to hold the bottles steady. > Any quick ideas, gimmicks, tools or thoughts on this subject??? > > Paul |
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On 03/30/2004 12:06 PM, Paul said:
> I'm wondering if anyone has built a simple rack for holding the bottle > securely while it is being filled, or what systems this group might > suggest to make the process a little easier. I generally find myself > alone in the basement when bottling...my wife isn't terribly > interested in the hobby and my kids are too young to assist. I have > an automatic bottle filler which works great, but I generally find > myself wishing I had an extra hand or two to hold the bottles steady. > Any quick ideas, gimmicks, tools or thoughts on this subject??? I'll start off by saying this may not be the best advice... I too struggle with the bottling phase sometimes. Recently I had 4 separate 1 gallon batches of the same wine ready for bottling, so I racked them into a bottling bucket, and bottled from that. It was a lot easier than siphoning 4 separate jugs into bottles, and it was also easy to mix in the sulfites before bottling. If you don't know, a bottling bucket is commonly used by beer makers. It's basically a 5 gallon plastic bucket with a spigot on the bottom. I say this may not be the best advice because it could expose your wine to more oxygen than other methods. -- Joe http://www.joekaz.net/ http://www.cafeshops.com/joekaz |
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Hi Paul
A plastic milk crate will hold ~ 16 bordeaux or 14-15 burgundy style bottles. You can fill all of the bottles while they are held securely in the crate. Return them to the crate after corking you can spritz all of the bottles with a hose and let them stand upright for a couple of days before laying them down for storage. Frank Paul wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone has built a simple rack for holding the bottle > securely while it is being filled, or what systems this group might > suggest to make the process a little easier. I generally find myself > alone in the basement when bottling...my wife isn't terribly > interested in the hobby and my kids are too young to assist. I have > an automatic bottle filler which works great, but I generally find > myself wishing I had an extra hand or two to hold the bottles steady. > Any quick ideas, gimmicks, tools or thoughts on this subject??? > > Paul |
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Maybe it is just me and my bad eyes but I have tried methods of filling
bottles where several bottles are held together but I have trouble seeing when the bottle is full and it increases overflow. I do them one at a time with a wand and have a light set on the floor behind them so I can see when those dark green bottles are filling. Ray "Paul" > wrote in message om... > I'm wondering if anyone has built a simple rack for holding the bottle > securely while it is being filled, or what systems this group might > suggest to make the process a little easier. I generally find myself > alone in the basement when bottling...my wife isn't terribly > interested in the hobby and my kids are too young to assist. I have > an automatic bottle filler which works great, but I generally find > myself wishing I had an extra hand or two to hold the bottles steady. > Any quick ideas, gimmicks, tools or thoughts on this subject??? > > Paul |
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"Ray" > wrote in message . com>...
> Maybe it is just me and my bad eyes but I have tried methods of filling > bottles where several bottles are held together but I have trouble seeing > when the bottle is full and it increases overflow. I do them one at a time > with a wand and have a light set on the floor behind them so I can see when > those dark green bottles are filling. I use a Buon Vino Automatic bottle filler so i don't have this problem. But, with a regular manual filler i understand what you mean! Séb |
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![]() "Rob Pyle" > wrote in message m... [snipped] > Primarily a beer brewer who is about to bottle my first batch of wine, > I can pass on this bottling hint: > > Using a bottling bucket or not, I plan to bottle on the open door of > my dishwasher. The white background gives a bright background to see > when the bottle is filled, and whatever is spilled is dumped into the > dishwasher by closing the door. > > I have bottled 30+ batches of beer this way and cannot imagine doing > it differently with my first baatch of wine. Skipping the bottling > bucket will be a challenge, though. > > Rob Rob, I have used the door of the dishwasher as a base for the bottles as well. It works great, but I've found that I'm quicker working on the floor. I just spread a towel to catch the inevitable overflow and spillage. :-) But there's no need to avoid the bottling bucket! I always rack into a bottling bucket before bottling, it makes the addition and mixing in of metabisulfite easy, and gives me one last go at degassing before bottling. -- Cheers, Ken |
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![]() > "Paul" > wrote in message > I generally find > > myself wishing I had an extra hand or two to hold the bottles steady. > > Any quick ideas, gimmicks, tools or thoughts on this subject??? > > > > Paul I don't hold them. I have a molded foam shipper that holds six bottles. I just us the bottom part and set the bottles into it and fill. (actually, my wife fills and I cork). The same idea you can use a milk crate or anything that holds the bottles in place. Cut down a cardboard case far enough so that you can see the liquid level. Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome |
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I have a wine box, slip the clear empties into the 12 slots, and fill away.
Works like a charm. "Paul" > wrote in message om... > I'm wondering if anyone has built a simple rack for holding the bottle > securely while it is being filled, or what systems this group might > suggest to make the process a little easier. I generally find myself > alone in the basement when bottling...my wife isn't terribly > interested in the hobby and my kids are too young to assist. I have > an automatic bottle filler which works great, but I generally find > myself wishing I had an extra hand or two to hold the bottles steady. > Any quick ideas, gimmicks, tools or thoughts on this subject??? > > Paul |
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This wine box, looks like a good idea.
How to you fill the bottle. One at a time or with a gang filler meaning 12 at a time. Do you have an automatic shut up device that prevent the wine from spilling in to the box or on the floor? At this time, I still place the empties (30 bottles) on the concrete floor in gang of six and fill them one by one with a very basic dripping plastic filler. As one bottle is been filled I move the full one close to the cocker. Once the cock is inserted into the bottle I move it on to the old Formica kitchen table close to the plastic tub. When the bottling is completed. I mop the concrete floor and clean the cocker. Then, I clean the outside of the filled bottles of white. After that I begin to affix the dated labels on the bottles. The wine bottles are left on the table to rest for 2-3 days Once the resting is done. I may want to shrink some seals on the bottles prior to storage. The things that I need to improve are” 1) filling without spilling. 2) handling 3) keeping a record of the storage 4) dating the labels I would appreciate comments so I can better my bottling procedures. .. "Matthew Givens" > wrote in message ink.net... > I have a wine box, slip the clear empties into the 12 slots, and fill away. > Works like a charm. > > > "Paul" > wrote in message > om... > > I'm wondering if anyone has built a simple rack for holding the bottle > > securely while it is being filled, or what systems this group might > > suggest to make the process a little easier. I generally find myself > > alone in the basement when bottling...my wife isn't terribly > > interested in the hobby and my kids are too young to assist. I have > > an automatic bottle filler which works great, but I generally find > > myself wishing I had an extra hand or two to hold the bottles steady. > > Any quick ideas, gimmicks, tools or thoughts on this subject??? > > > > Paul > > |
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Well, I use a single bottling wand to fill the bottles, and I just pay close
attention while bottling. I have two wine boxes, place 24 bottles in the slots, and fill with the bottling wand via ordinary gravity feed. Although a little does overflow each time, this is caught by the cardboard box, and backed up by the towel I have on the floor. As I do my bottling inside, in a spare room, I don't have the option of just cleaning the concrete floor. Carpet doesn't clean that easily. When all bottles are filled, I cork them with my floor corker (now that I have one, I don't know how I ever managed with just a hand corker). I let them sit upright for 2-3 days, then clean them and affix labels and foil caps. I keep track of the wine and its current status via a program that I wrote myself. "Denis Marier" > wrote in message ... > This wine box, looks like a good idea. > > How to you fill the bottle. One at a time or with a gang filler meaning 12 > at a time. > Do you have an automatic shut up device that prevent the wine from spilling > in to the box or on the floor? > > At this time, I still place the empties (30 bottles) on the concrete floor > in gang of six and fill them one by one with a very basic dripping plastic > filler. As one bottle is been filled I move the full one close to the > cocker. Once the cock is inserted into the bottle I move it on to the old > Formica kitchen table close to the plastic tub. When the bottling is > completed. I mop the concrete floor and clean the cocker. Then, I clean the > outside of the filled bottles of white. After that I begin to affix the > dated labels on the bottles. The wine bottles are left on the table to rest > for 2-3 days > Once the resting is done. I may want to shrink some seals on the bottles > prior to storage. > The things that I need to improve are" > 1) filling without spilling. > 2) handling > 3) keeping a record of the storage > 4) dating the labels > > I would appreciate comments so I can better my bottling procedures. > > > . > "Matthew Givens" > wrote in message > ink.net... > > I have a wine box, slip the clear empties into the 12 slots, and fill > away. > > Works like a charm. > > > > > > "Paul" > wrote in message > > om... > > > I'm wondering if anyone has built a simple rack for holding the bottle > > > securely while it is being filled, or what systems this group might > > > suggest to make the process a little easier. I generally find myself > > > alone in the basement when bottling...my wife isn't terribly > > > interested in the hobby and my kids are too young to assist. I have > > > an automatic bottle filler which works great, but I generally find > > > myself wishing I had an extra hand or two to hold the bottles steady. > > > Any quick ideas, gimmicks, tools or thoughts on this subject??? > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > |
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I have noticed that the quality of my wine gets affected by poor quality
corks. Slowly I am moving to aluminum screw caps. Threaded top bottles are hard to find now. However, French producers are gradually moving to screw caps. I'll keep my eyes open. In the meantime I may experiment with flip flop caps. I would like to find out more about your wine tracking system. Denis Rothesay, New Brunswick "Matthew Givens" > wrote in message ink.net... > Well, I use a single bottling wand to fill the bottles, and I just pay close > attention while bottling. > > I have two wine boxes, place 24 bottles in the slots, and fill with the > bottling wand via ordinary gravity feed. Although a little does overflow > each time, this is caught by the cardboard box, and backed up by the towel I > have on the floor. As I do my bottling inside, in a spare room, I don't > have the option of just cleaning the concrete floor. Carpet doesn't clean > that easily. > > When all bottles are filled, I cork them with my floor corker (now that I > have one, I don't know how I ever managed with just a hand corker). I let > them sit upright for 2-3 days, then clean them and affix labels and foil > caps. I keep track of the wine and its current status via a program that I > wrote myself. > > > "Denis Marier" > wrote in message > ... > > This wine box, looks like a good idea. > > > > How to you fill the bottle. One at a time or with a gang filler meaning 12 > > at a time. > > Do you have an automatic shut up device that prevent the wine from > spilling > > in to the box or on the floor? > > > > At this time, I still place the empties (30 bottles) on the concrete floor > > in gang of six and fill them one by one with a very basic dripping plastic > > filler. As one bottle is been filled I move the full one close to the > > cocker. Once the cock is inserted into the bottle I move it on to the old > > Formica kitchen table close to the plastic tub. When the bottling is > > completed. I mop the concrete floor and clean the cocker. Then, I clean > the > > outside of the filled bottles of white. After that I begin to affix the > > dated labels on the bottles. The wine bottles are left on the table to > rest > > for 2-3 days > > Once the resting is done. I may want to shrink some seals on the bottles > > prior to storage. > > The things that I need to improve are" > > 1) filling without spilling. > > 2) handling > > 3) keeping a record of the storage > > 4) dating the labels > > > > I would appreciate comments so I can better my bottling procedures. > > > > > > . > > "Matthew Givens" > wrote in message > > ink.net... > > > I have a wine box, slip the clear empties into the 12 slots, and fill > > away. > > > Works like a charm. > > > > > > > > > "Paul" > wrote in message > > > om... > > > > I'm wondering if anyone has built a simple rack for holding the bottle > > > > securely while it is being filled, or what systems this group might > > > > suggest to make the process a little easier. I generally find myself > > > > alone in the basement when bottling...my wife isn't terribly > > > > interested in the hobby and my kids are too young to assist. I have > > > > an automatic bottle filler which works great, but I generally find > > > > myself wishing I had an extra hand or two to hold the bottles steady. > > > > Any quick ideas, gimmicks, tools or thoughts on this subject??? > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Hi everyone, I haven't posted here for quite a while but I have been lurking
and reading whenever I have a chance but I couldn't resist replying to this post. Am I the only one giggling here? Is it a good idea to insert a cock in a wine bottle? hehehe! ![]() Other than that, there are some pretty good ideas for bottling... Louise "Denis Marier" > wrote in message ... > This wine box, looks like a good idea. > > How to you fill the bottle. One at a time or with a gang filler meaning 12 > at a time. > Do you have an automatic shut up device that prevent the wine from spilling > in to the box or on the floor? > > At this time, I still place the empties (30 bottles) on the concrete floor > in gang of six and fill them one by one with a very basic dripping plastic > filler. As one bottle is been filled I move the full one close to the > cocker. Once the cock is inserted into the bottle I move it on to the old > Formica kitchen table close to the plastic tub. When the bottling is > completed. I mop the concrete floor and clean the cocker. Then, I clean the > outside of the filled bottles of white. After that I begin to affix the > dated labels on the bottles. The wine bottles are left on the table to rest > for 2-3 days > Once the resting is done. I may want to shrink some seals on the bottles > prior to storage. > The things that I need to improve are" > 1) filling without spilling. > 2) handling > 3) keeping a record of the storage > 4) dating the labels > > I would appreciate comments so I can better my bottling procedures. > > > . > "Matthew Givens" > wrote in message > ink.net... > > I have a wine box, slip the clear empties into the 12 slots, and fill > away. > > Works like a charm. > > > > > > "Paul" > wrote in message > > om... > > > I'm wondering if anyone has built a simple rack for holding the bottle > > > securely while it is being filled, or what systems this group might > > > suggest to make the process a little easier. I generally find myself > > > alone in the basement when bottling...my wife isn't terribly > > > interested in the hobby and my kids are too young to assist. I have > > > an automatic bottle filler which works great, but I generally find > > > myself wishing I had an extra hand or two to hold the bottles steady. > > > Any quick ideas, gimmicks, tools or thoughts on this subject??? > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > |
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Thanks for your input.
If corking suits you fine the more power to you. However, at this end, corking is on its way out. I have had too many bad experiences with corks. At one time, corks were the only thing available to bottle food and wine. The oak trees are getting old and their bark do not re-generate has before. These oak trees have been harvested for hundred of years. The corks available to us now are risky to use. "Weez" > wrote in message .. . > Hi everyone, I haven't posted here for quite a while but I have been lurking > and reading whenever I have a chance but I couldn't resist replying to this > post. > Am I the only one giggling here? Is it a good idea to insert a cock in a > wine bottle? hehehe! ![]() > Other than that, there are some pretty good ideas for bottling... > Louise > > "Denis Marier" > wrote in message > ... > > This wine box, looks like a good idea. > > > > How to you fill the bottle. One at a time or with a gang filler meaning 12 > > at a time. > > Do you have an automatic shut up device that prevent the wine from > spilling > > in to the box or on the floor? > > > > At this time, I still place the empties (30 bottles) on the concrete floor > > in gang of six and fill them one by one with a very basic dripping plastic > > filler. As one bottle is been filled I move the full one close to the > > cocker. Once the cock is inserted into the bottle I move it on to the old > > Formica kitchen table close to the plastic tub. When the bottling is > > completed. I mop the concrete floor and clean the cocker. Then, I clean > the > > outside of the filled bottles of white. After that I begin to affix the > > dated labels on the bottles. The wine bottles are left on the table to > rest > > for 2-3 days > > Once the resting is done. I may want to shrink some seals on the bottles > > prior to storage. > > The things that I need to improve are" > > 1) filling without spilling. > > 2) handling > > 3) keeping a record of the storage > > 4) dating the labels > > > > I would appreciate comments so I can better my bottling procedures. > > > > > > . > > "Matthew Givens" > wrote in message > > ink.net... > > > I have a wine box, slip the clear empties into the 12 slots, and fill > > away. > > > Works like a charm. > > > > > > > > > "Paul" > wrote in message > > > om... > > > > I'm wondering if anyone has built a simple rack for holding the bottle > > > > securely while it is being filled, or what systems this group might > > > > suggest to make the process a little easier. I generally find myself > > > > alone in the basement when bottling...my wife isn't terribly > > > > interested in the hobby and my kids are too young to assist. I have > > > > an automatic bottle filler which works great, but I generally find > > > > myself wishing I had an extra hand or two to hold the bottles steady. > > > > Any quick ideas, gimmicks, tools or thoughts on this subject??? > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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I think he was referring to the misspelling. The original poster replaced
the "r" in "cork" with a "c". "Denis Marier" > wrote in message ... > Thanks for your input. > If corking suits you fine the more power to you. However, at this end, > corking is on its way out. I have had too many bad experiences with corks. > At one time, corks were the only thing available to bottle food and wine. > The oak trees are getting old and their bark do not re-generate has before. > These oak trees have been harvested for hundred of years. The corks > available to us now are risky to use. > > "Weez" > wrote in message > .. . > > Hi everyone, I haven't posted here for quite a while but I have been > lurking > > and reading whenever I have a chance but I couldn't resist replying to > this > > post. > > Am I the only one giggling here? Is it a good idea to insert a cock in a > > wine bottle? hehehe! ![]() > > Other than that, there are some pretty good ideas for bottling... > > Louise > > > > "Denis Marier" > wrote in message > > ... > > > This wine box, looks like a good idea. > > > > > > How to you fill the bottle. One at a time or with a gang filler meaning > 12 > > > at a time. > > > Do you have an automatic shut up device that prevent the wine from > > spilling > > > in to the box or on the floor? > > > > > > At this time, I still place the empties (30 bottles) on the concrete > floor > > > in gang of six and fill them one by one with a very basic dripping > plastic > > > filler. As one bottle is been filled I move the full one close to the > > > cocker. Once the cock is inserted into the bottle I move it on to the > old > > > Formica kitchen table close to the plastic tub. When the bottling is > > > completed. I mop the concrete floor and clean the cocker. Then, I clean > > the > > > outside of the filled bottles of white. After that I begin to affix the > > > dated labels on the bottles. The wine bottles are left on the table to > > rest > > > for 2-3 days > > > Once the resting is done. I may want to shrink some seals on the bottles > > > prior to storage. > > > The things that I need to improve are" > > > 1) filling without spilling. > > > 2) handling > > > 3) keeping a record of the storage > > > 4) dating the labels > > > > > > I would appreciate comments so I can better my bottling procedures. > > > > > > > > > . > > > "Matthew Givens" > wrote in message > > > ink.net... > > > > I have a wine box, slip the clear empties into the 12 slots, and fill > > > away. > > > > Works like a charm. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Paul" > wrote in message > > > > om... > > > > > I'm wondering if anyone has built a simple rack for holding the > bottle > > > > > securely while it is being filled, or what systems this group might > > > > > suggest to make the process a little easier. I generally find > myself > > > > > alone in the basement when bottling...my wife isn't terribly > > > > > interested in the hobby and my kids are too young to assist. I have > > > > > an automatic bottle filler which works great, but I generally find > > > > > myself wishing I had an extra hand or two to hold the bottles > steady. > > > > > Any quick ideas, gimmicks, tools or thoughts on this subject??? > > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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My words of reccomendation is simply that you don't sample too much of your
product(s) while bottling. Bottling takes coordination, and there are those of us who have determined that we simply do not have the full coordination required to do the bottling when under the affects of the glorious products. ![]() LG (Paul) wrote: >I'm wondering if anyone has built a simple rack for holding the bottle >securely while it is being filled, or what systems this group might >suggest to make the process a little easier. I generally find myself >alone in the basement when bottling...my wife isn't terribly >interested in the hobby and my kids are too young to assist. I have >an automatic bottle filler which works great, but I generally find >myself wishing I had an extra hand or two to hold the bottles steady. >Any quick ideas, gimmicks, tools or thoughts on this subject??? > >Paul |
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