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Michael Piacentini
 
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Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just because
it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.

Thanks,
Mike


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"Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message
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> Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just because
> it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
> Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike


Mike, lemon juice tastes tart (the term "sour" is reserved for wines that
are turning to vinegar). The white material under the skin on grapefruit
tasts bitter. Does your white Zin taste tart or bitter?
lum


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Michael Piacentini
 
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Definitely bitter
"Lum" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message
> . net...
> > Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just

because
> > it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
> > Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike

>
> Mike, lemon juice tastes tart (the term "sour" is reserved for wines that
> are turning to vinegar). The white material under the skin on grapefruit
> tasts bitter. Does your white Zin taste tart or bitter?
> lum
>
>



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"Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message
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> Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just because
> it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
> Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.


Give it time. That should mellow out. Meantime, start another batch.

Tom S


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"Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message
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> Definitely bitter


Bitterness in wines is usually caused by phenolic materials, but compaired
to red wines, most blush wines and white wines contain relatively little
phenolic materials. All wines become less bitter and astringent as they
age, so perhaps your Zin will show some improvement in a few more months.
Good luck,
lum




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Joe Sallustio
 
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Sounds odd to be really bitter, how did you make it and what color is
it? It there any brown? Be specific as to how much of whatever you
used.

I would say none of my blush wines ever tasted bitter at any point.
They do change quite a bit in the bottle. They are not really meant
to last for years so really bitter could be an issue. Everything is
relative though, what is really bitter to one person might not be so
bitter to another...
Regards,
Joe


"Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message >...
> Definitely bitter
> "Lum" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message
> > . net...
> > > Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just

> because
> > > it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
> > > Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mike

> >
> > Mike, lemon juice tastes tart (the term "sour" is reserved for wines that
> > are turning to vinegar). The white material under the skin on grapefruit
> > tasts bitter. Does your white Zin taste tart or bitter?
> > lum
> >
> >

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Joe Ae
 
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I also find unoaked dry white wines have a touch of bitterness. I wonder if
slightly sweeting would mask this?

Joe

"Joe Sallustio" > wrote in message
om...
> Sounds odd to be really bitter, how did you make it and what color is
> it? It there any brown? Be specific as to how much of whatever you
> used.
>
> I would say none of my blush wines ever tasted bitter at any point.
> They do change quite a bit in the bottle. They are not really meant
> to last for years so really bitter could be an issue. Everything is
> relative though, what is really bitter to one person might not be so
> bitter to another...
> Regards,
> Joe
>
>
> "Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message

>...
> > Definitely bitter
> > "Lum" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message
> > > . net...
> > > > Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just

> > because
> > > > it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
> > > > Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Mike
> > >
> > > Mike, lemon juice tastes tart (the term "sour" is reserved for wines

that
> > > are turning to vinegar). The white material under the skin on

grapefruit
> > > tasts bitter. Does your white Zin taste tart or bitter?
> > > lum
> > >
> > >



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Michael Piacentini
 
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The color is really good, no brown whatsoever.
It came from fresh juices and I added yeast nutrient in the beginning and
and added sulfites at racking in October. Also added pectic enzyme when
starting fermentation.
Started the batch in late August.

Thanks
"Joe Ae" > wrote in message
. ..
> I also find unoaked dry white wines have a touch of bitterness. I wonder

if
> slightly sweeting would mask this?
>
> Joe
>
> "Joe Sallustio" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Sounds odd to be really bitter, how did you make it and what color is
> > it? It there any brown? Be specific as to how much of whatever you
> > used.
> >
> > I would say none of my blush wines ever tasted bitter at any point.
> > They do change quite a bit in the bottle. They are not really meant
> > to last for years so really bitter could be an issue. Everything is
> > relative though, what is really bitter to one person might not be so
> > bitter to another...
> > Regards,
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > "Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message

> >...
> > > Definitely bitter
> > > "Lum" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > "Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message
> > > > . net...
> > > > > Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just
> > > because
> > > > > it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
> > > > > Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > Mike, lemon juice tastes tart (the term "sour" is reserved for wines

> that
> > > > are turning to vinegar). The white material under the skin on

> grapefruit
> > > > tasts bitter. Does your white Zin taste tart or bitter?
> > > > lum
> > > >
> > > >

>
>



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Tom
 
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Michael,

Where did the juice come from? Over zealous pressing could have cracked a
lot of the seeds. That could explain the bitterness.

Tom
"Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message
t...
> The color is really good, no brown whatsoever.
> It came from fresh juices and I added yeast nutrient in the beginning and
> and added sulfites at racking in October. Also added pectic enzyme when
> starting fermentation.
> Started the batch in late August.
>
> Thanks
> "Joe Ae" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > I also find unoaked dry white wines have a touch of bitterness. I

wonder
> if
> > slightly sweeting would mask this?
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > "Joe Sallustio" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > Sounds odd to be really bitter, how did you make it and what color is
> > > it? It there any brown? Be specific as to how much of whatever you
> > > used.
> > >
> > > I would say none of my blush wines ever tasted bitter at any point.
> > > They do change quite a bit in the bottle. They are not really meant
> > > to last for years so really bitter could be an issue. Everything is
> > > relative though, what is really bitter to one person might not be so
> > > bitter to another...
> > > Regards,
> > > Joe
> > >
> > >
> > > "Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message

> > >...
> > > > Definitely bitter
> > > > "Lum" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message
> > > > > . net...
> > > > > > Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this

just
> > > > because
> > > > > > it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
> > > > > > Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike, lemon juice tastes tart (the term "sour" is reserved for

wines
> > that
> > > > > are turning to vinegar). The white material under the skin on

> > grapefruit
> > > > > tasts bitter. Does your white Zin taste tart or bitter?
> > > > > lum
> > > > >
> > > > >

> >
> >

>
>



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I made some Lychee wine this last year and bottled it last month. It is
crystal clear, very little color of any type. It has a delightful, strong,
floral bouquet and is very fruity and reminiscent of Gewürztraminer. But it
too has an underlying bitterness. No seeds, stems, or skin were used. I
too hope the bitterness goes away as it is the only fault.

Ray

"Joe Sallustio" > wrote in message
om...
> Sounds odd to be really bitter, how did you make it and what color is
> it? It there any brown? Be specific as to how much of whatever you
> used.
>
> I would say none of my blush wines ever tasted bitter at any point.
> They do change quite a bit in the bottle. They are not really meant
> to last for years so really bitter could be an issue. Everything is
> relative though, what is really bitter to one person might not be so
> bitter to another...
> Regards,
> Joe
>
>
> "Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message

>...
> > Definitely bitter
> > "Lum" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Michael Piacentini" > wrote in message
> > > . net...
> > > > Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just

> > because
> > > > it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
> > > > Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Mike
> > >
> > > Mike, lemon juice tastes tart (the term "sour" is reserved for wines

that
> > > are turning to vinegar). The white material under the skin on

grapefruit
> > > tasts bitter. Does your white Zin taste tart or bitter?
> > > lum
> > >
> > >



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