Hi.....in a few weeks my local supplier will have his listing of
prices,etc. of california wine grapes.I was wondering if anyone has
been following the growing season reports and might know what kind of
grapes are expected to be best this season?The grapes available to me
are from the central valley 'over cropped" vineyards but still I would
expect that the growing conditions would be more favorable to some
varieties more than others if you follow my thinking here......any
suggestions,thoughts?....it would be good if someone here who really
knows how these things work could give an update or something every
few days or weekly......just cutting and pasting the url we should be
directed to would be great....would make the decision process a lot
simpiler for the simple like me......thanks.......andy
j......N.B.,Canada

Hi again......is the central valley harvest under way?......my local
supplier here has not recieved the price listings etc. from Montreal
yet....anyone on here get any California grapes yet ??......and what
is the quality of Merlot and Cab.Sauv. generally like this
year?......andy j.

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Andy j. wrote:

> Hi again......is the central valley harvest under way?......my local
> supplier here has not recieved the price listings etc. from Montreal
> yet....anyone on here get any California grapes yet ??......and what
> is the quality of Merlot and Cab.Sauv. generally like this
> year?......andy j.
>
The grapes at the Northern end of the valley are gone by now. I picked
mine near Sacramento a few weeks ago at 24 Brix for C. Sauv, Merlot and .
franc.
Warren Place

Here are my numbers for pailed Regina juice picked up in Pittsburgh.
Regina is Central Valley fruit. The acid samples were degassed, but
the juice was not fermenting, I get it when it comes off the trucks.

Initial Values SG TA g/l pH:

Date: 09/03/2004 (corr. to 68 F)

Cabernet Sauvignon 1 1.088 blend X
Cabernet Sauvignon 2 1.086 6.82 3.28

Syrah 1 1.090 blend X
Syrah 2 1.090 6.45 3.46

Riesling 1 1.084 blend X
Riesling 2 1.085 5.48 3.39

Sauvignon Blanc 1.083 4.95 3.39

Joe

(Andy j.) wrote in message . com>...
> Hi again......is the central valley harvest under way?......my local
> supplier here has not recieved the price listings etc. from Montreal
> yet....anyone on here get any California grapes yet ??......and what
> is the quality of Merlot and Cab.Sauv. generally like this
> year?......andy j.

I ran numbers on a couple of Santa Barbara County vineyards on September
5th:

Los Alamos Chardonnay: 21.2° Brix, pH 3.29
Santa Maria Chardonnay: 21.8° Brix, pH 3.18

It's been warm lately. I'll probably harvest in ten days or so.

Tom S

"Joe Sallustio" > wrote in message
om...
> Here are my numbers for pailed Regina juice picked up in Pittsburgh.
> Regina is Central Valley fruit. The acid samples were degassed, but
> the juice was not fermenting, I get it when it comes off the trucks.
>
> Initial Values SG TA g/l pH:
>
> Date: 09/03/2004 (corr. to 68 F)
>
> Cabernet Sauvignon 1 1.088 blend X
> Cabernet Sauvignon 2 1.086 6.82 3.28
>
> Syrah 1 1.090 blend X
> Syrah 2 1.090 6.45 3.46
>
> Riesling 1 1.084 blend X
> Riesling 2 1.085 5.48 3.39
>
> Sauvignon Blanc 1.083 4.95 3.39
>
> Joe
>
> (Andy j.) wrote in message
. com>...
> > Hi again......is the central valley harvest under way?......my local
> > supplier here has not recieved the price listings etc. from Montreal
> > yet....anyone on here get any California grapes yet ??......and what
> > is the quality of Merlot and Cab.Sauv. generally like this
> > year?......andy j.

Here are some numbers measured from some San Diego, California grapes
crushed in the past few days.

Viognier, 9/3/04, 23.2, 0.69, 3.29
Syrah, 9/4/04, 30.1 (yes, 30.1 Brix), 0.61, 3.98
Merlot, 9/7/04, 24.3, 0.62, 3.42
Carignane, 9/8/04, 24.0, 0.57, 3.38
Syrah, 9/9/04, 23,0.69, 3.31
Merlot, 9/9/04, 25.5, 0.64, 3.25

The high Brix Syrah was not watered down. It is fermenting with Prise de
Mousse yeast and is at 6 Brix. It has lots of "fruit" character, but we
will see if the alcohol (~16 - 16.5%) is too dominate. It may or may not be
a heck of a wine.

Crush just started and my fanny is dragging already. I may be getting too
old.

Regards,
Lum
Del Mar, California, USA

"Joe Sallustio" > wrote in message
om...
> Here are my numbers for pailed Regina juice picked up in Pittsburgh.
> Regina is Central Valley fruit. The acid samples were degassed, but
> the juice was not fermenting, I get it when it comes off the trucks.
>
> Initial Values SG TA g/l pH:
>
> Date: 09/03/2004 (corr. to 68 F)
>
> Cabernet Sauvignon 1 1.088 blend X
> Cabernet Sauvignon 2 1.086 6.82 3.28
>
> Syrah 1 1.090 blend X
> Syrah 2 1.090 6.45 3.46
>
> Riesling 1 1.084 blend X
> Riesling 2 1.085 5.48 3.39
>
> Sauvignon Blanc 1.083 4.95 3.39
>
> Joe
>
> (Andy j.) wrote in message
. com>...
> > Hi again......is the central valley harvest under way?......my local
> > supplier here has not recieved the price listings etc. from Montreal
> > yet....anyone on here get any California grapes yet ??......and what
> > is the quality of Merlot and Cab.Sauv. generally like this
> > year?......andy j.

Here are some numbers measured from some San Diego, California grapes
crushed in the past few days.

Viognier, 9/3/04, 23.2, 0.69, 3.29
Syrah, 9/4/04, 30.1 (yes, 30.1 Brix), 0.61, 3.98
Merlot, 9/7/04, 24.3, 0.62, 3.42
Carignane, 9/8/04, 24.0, 0.57, 3.38
Syrah, 9/9/04, 23,0.69, 3.31
Merlot, 9/9/04, 25.5, 0.64, 3.25

The high Brix Syrah was not watered down. It is fermenting with Prise de
Mousse yeast and is at 6 Brix. It has lots of "fruit" character, but we
will see if the alcohol (~16 - 16.5%) is too dominate. It may or may not be
a heck of a wine.

Crush just started and my fanny is dragging already. I may be getting too
old.

Regards,
Lum
Del Mar, California, USA

I ran numbers on a couple of Santa Barbara County vineyards on September
5th:

Los Alamos Chardonnay: 21.2° Brix, pH 3.29
Santa Maria Chardonnay: 21.8° Brix, pH 3.18

It's been warm lately. I'll probably harvest in ten days or so.

Tom S

"Joe Sallustio" > wrote in message
om...
> Here are my numbers for pailed Regina juice picked up in Pittsburgh.
> Regina is Central Valley fruit. The acid samples were degassed, but
> the juice was not fermenting, I get it when it comes off the trucks.
>
> Initial Values SG TA g/l pH:
>
> Date: 09/03/2004 (corr. to 68 F)
>
> Cabernet Sauvignon 1 1.088 blend X
> Cabernet Sauvignon 2 1.086 6.82 3.28
>
> Syrah 1 1.090 blend X
> Syrah 2 1.090 6.45 3.46
>
> Riesling 1 1.084 blend X
> Riesling 2 1.085 5.48 3.39
>
> Sauvignon Blanc 1.083 4.95 3.39
>
> Joe
>
> (Andy j.) wrote in message
. com>...
> > Hi again......is the central valley harvest under way?......my local
> > supplier here has not recieved the price listings etc. from Montreal
> > yet....anyone on here get any California grapes yet ??......and what
> > is the quality of Merlot and Cab.Sauv. generally like this
> > year?......andy j.

Here are some numbers measured from some San Diego, California grapes
crushed in the past few days.

Viognier, 9/3/04, 23.2, 0.69, 3.29
Syrah, 9/4/04, 30.1 (yes, 30.1 Brix), 0.61, 3.98
Merlot, 9/7/04, 24.3, 0.62, 3.42
Carignane, 9/8/04, 24.0, 0.57, 3.38
Syrah, 9/9/04, 23,0.69, 3.31
Merlot, 9/9/04, 25.5, 0.64, 3.25

The high Brix Syrah was not watered down. It is fermenting with Prise de
Mousse yeast and is at 6 Brix. It has lots of "fruit" character, but we
will see if the alcohol (~16 - 16.5%) is too dominate. It may or may not be
a heck of a wine.

Crush just started and my fanny is dragging already. I may be getting too
old.

Regards,
Lum
Del Mar, California, USA

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Andy j. wrote:

> Hi again......is the central valley harvest under way?......my local
> supplier here has not recieved the price listings etc. from Montreal
> yet....anyone on here get any California grapes yet ??......and what
> is the quality of Merlot and Cab.Sauv. generally like this
> year?......andy j.
>
The grapes at the Northern end of the valley are gone by now. I picked
mine near Sacramento a few weeks ago at 24 Brix for C. Sauv, Merlot and .
franc.
Warren Place

Hi again......is the central valley harvest under way?......my local
supplier here has not recieved the price listings etc. from Montreal
yet....anyone on here get any California grapes yet ??......and what
is the quality of Merlot and Cab.Sauv. generally like this
year?......andy j.