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I just finished bottling a gallon batch of watermelon wine and it has
a strong watermelon smell. It always has smelled like that, even after
the rackings. I may be crazy, but I was assuming that odor would go
away after fermentation. Is this normal, or has the batch bit the
dust? It taste ok, I think, but needs some aging for sure. Kind of
made me nauseated, too.
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Greg,

My very second batch of wine ever was a large batch (6 gal) of
watermelon. The must the entire time was on he rotten smelling side,
kinda like you would expect from a very overripe watermelon. The
fruit was fresh and sweet when I started, and I kept with it. It
actually is a higher alcohol batch than usual, about 15%, and I racked
after primary, and a month after that. I had a little leftover at
this time and the smell was still strong, almost bad. I refrigerated
it for two weeks and tried it. The color at this time was still a
soft pink, and the stabilizing in the fridge did let the smell rest,
and the taste was rough, but not bad. I could tell it needed to age,
but had potential. On the bright side, it packed a very quick kick
that would tell me that this is strong stuff.

It cleared a little, but had a wee bit of haze to the pink color. I
finally cleared it with superkleer and within a day it was pee yellow,
all of the pink was sediment at the bottom. I racked to bottles 3
days later. I sweetened half and left half dry, stabilizing both.

I am holding my hope that this turns out very mellow for next summer.

Greg, Erie, PA

On 3 Dec 2004 20:57:42 -0800, (Greg) wrote:

>I just finished bottling a gallon batch of watermelon wine and it has
>a strong watermelon smell. It always has smelled like that, even after
>the rackings. I may be crazy, but I was assuming that odor would go
>away after fermentation. Is this normal, or has the batch bit the
>dust? It taste ok, I think, but needs some aging for sure. Kind of
>made me nauseated, too.



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Hoss,
Watermelon wine does smell "odd"; that's the only way I can describe it.
I've made it 2 times, it just has a unique smell. I had trouble my first
time to, it wouldn't clear, and then the bottles started to pop. Anyway, I
looked at my first batch as a learning experiment. After making some
adjustments, I started my second 1 gallon batch in July 2003. And yes, this
batch turned out to have a 15% alcohol level too. My taste buds prefer it
sweeter, especially to offset the rocket fuel taste; so I sweetened and
added sorbate. I think this wine needs time to mature, so I have not opened
a bottle yet. You're right, it does not come out pink, but sort of yellow.
Hang in there.
Darlene
Wisconsin

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> Greg,
>
> My very second batch of wine ever was a large batch (6 gal) of
> watermelon. The must the entire time was on he rotten smelling side,
> kinda like you would expect from a very overripe watermelon. The
> fruit was fresh and sweet when I started, and I kept with it. It
> actually is a higher alcohol batch than usual, about 15%, and I racked
> after primary, and a month after that. I had a little leftover at
> this time and the smell was still strong, almost bad. I refrigerated
> it for two weeks and tried it. The color at this time was still a
> soft pink, and the stabilizing in the fridge did let the smell rest,
> and the taste was rough, but not bad. I could tell it needed to age,
> but had potential. On the bright side, it packed a very quick kick
> that would tell me that this is strong stuff.
>
> It cleared a little, but had a wee bit of haze to the pink color. I
> finally cleared it with superkleer and within a day it was pee yellow,
> all of the pink was sediment at the bottom. I racked to bottles 3
> days later. I sweetened half and left half dry, stabilizing both.
>
> I am holding my hope that this turns out very mellow for next summer.
>
> Greg, Erie, PA
>
> On 3 Dec 2004 20:57:42 -0800, (Greg) wrote:
>
>>I just finished bottling a gallon batch of watermelon wine and it has
>>a strong watermelon smell. It always has smelled like that, even after
>>the rackings. I may be crazy, but I was assuming that odor would go
>>away after fermentation. Is this normal, or has the batch bit the
>>dust? It taste ok, I think, but needs some aging for sure. Kind of
>>made me nauseated, too.

>
>



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Well, from what everyone has described, it looks like my watermelon
wine may be on track. It definitely has that very, very overripe
smell, with a high alcohol content. It also has the pinkish, redish,
orangy color, with a slight haze.

I just bottled an elderberry a couple of weeks ago. It was delicious,
without the age. I hope we can stay away from the bottled ones for a
few months Up to be bottled in a few weeks is muscadine. During
racking, it had a good taste, too.

Thanks for the feedback on the watermelon. It's been spared the drain
for a year or so.

(Greg) wrote in message . com>...
> I just finished bottling a gallon batch of watermelon wine and it has
> a strong watermelon smell. It always has smelled like that, even after
> the rackings. I may be crazy, but I was assuming that odor would go
> away after fermentation. Is this normal, or has the batch bit the
> dust? It taste ok, I think, but needs some aging for sure. Kind of
> made me nauseated, too.

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Greg,
It is always interesting when making a wine for the first time...I was ready
to dump my watermelon the first time around too - the smell was just so odd.
So when I made it the second time, avoiding what I thought were the
negatives during the first time, and it still smelled the same...heck, this
must be how it smells. I'm glad I didn't throw the batch out, because I
learned a lot from it. Sometimes though, it is hard to know if you're on
the right track - how something smells and tastes is a hard thing to tell
others about,
Darlene

"Greg" > wrote in message
om...
> Well, from what everyone has described, it looks like my watermelon
> wine may be on track. It definitely has that very, very overripe
> smell, with a high alcohol content. It also has the pinkish, redish,
> orangy color, with a slight haze.
>
> I just bottled an elderberry a couple of weeks ago. It was delicious,
> without the age. I hope we can stay away from the bottled ones for a
> few months Up to be bottled in a few weeks is muscadine. During
> racking, it had a good taste, too.
>
> Thanks for the feedback on the watermelon. It's been spared the drain
> for a year or so.
>
> (Greg) wrote in message
> . com>...
>> I just finished bottling a gallon batch of watermelon wine and it has
>> a strong watermelon smell. It always has smelled like that, even after
>> the rackings. I may be crazy, but I was assuming that odor would go
>> away after fermentation. Is this normal, or has the batch bit the
>> dust? It taste ok, I think, but needs some aging for sure. Kind of
>> made me nauseated, too.





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Ok here comes the KID in me...

Have any of you ever though about using some of the watermelon wine to make
jello or something else fun for the weekend?

David

"Dar V" > wrote in message
...
> Greg,
> It is always interesting when making a wine for the first time...I was

ready
> to dump my watermelon the first time around too - the smell was just so

odd.
> So when I made it the second time, avoiding what I thought were the
> negatives during the first time, and it still smelled the same...heck,

this
> must be how it smells. I'm glad I didn't throw the batch out, because I
> learned a lot from it. Sometimes though, it is hard to know if you're on
> the right track - how something smells and tastes is a hard thing to tell
> others about,
> Darlene
>
> "Greg" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Well, from what everyone has described, it looks like my watermelon
> > wine may be on track. It definitely has that very, very overripe
> > smell, with a high alcohol content. It also has the pinkish, redish,
> > orangy color, with a slight haze.
> >
> > I just bottled an elderberry a couple of weeks ago. It was delicious,
> > without the age. I hope we can stay away from the bottled ones for a
> > few months Up to be bottled in a few weeks is muscadine. During
> > racking, it had a good taste, too.
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback on the watermelon. It's been spared the drain
> > for a year or so.
> >
> > (Greg) wrote in message
> > . com>...
> >> I just finished bottling a gallon batch of watermelon wine and it has
> >> a strong watermelon smell. It always has smelled like that, even after
> >> the rackings. I may be crazy, but I was assuming that odor would go
> >> away after fermentation. Is this normal, or has the batch bit the
> >> dust? It taste ok, I think, but needs some aging for sure. Kind of
> >> made me nauseated, too.

>
>



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Lol. Sure, but I'm over 21 (well a bit more than that) and I like to try new
things. Believe me there was a watermelon around my house to eat.
Darlene ;o)

"news-server.triad.rr.com" > wrote in message
. com...
> Ok here comes the KID in me...
>
> Have any of you ever though about using some of the watermelon wine to
> make
> jello or something else fun for the weekend?
>
> David
>
> "Dar V" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Greg,
>> It is always interesting when making a wine for the first time...I was

> ready
>> to dump my watermelon the first time around too - the smell was just so

> odd.
>> So when I made it the second time, avoiding what I thought were the
>> negatives during the first time, and it still smelled the same...heck,

> this
>> must be how it smells. I'm glad I didn't throw the batch out, because I
>> learned a lot from it. Sometimes though, it is hard to know if you're on
>> the right track - how something smells and tastes is a hard thing to tell
>> others about,
>> Darlene
>>
>> "Greg" > wrote in message
>> om...
>> > Well, from what everyone has described, it looks like my watermelon
>> > wine may be on track. It definitely has that very, very overripe
>> > smell, with a high alcohol content. It also has the pinkish, redish,
>> > orangy color, with a slight haze.
>> >
>> > I just bottled an elderberry a couple of weeks ago. It was delicious,
>> > without the age. I hope we can stay away from the bottled ones for a
>> > few months Up to be bottled in a few weeks is muscadine. During
>> > racking, it had a good taste, too.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the feedback on the watermelon. It's been spared the drain
>> > for a year or so.
>> >
>> > (Greg) wrote in message
>> > . com>...
>> >> I just finished bottling a gallon batch of watermelon wine and it has
>> >> a strong watermelon smell. It always has smelled like that, even after
>> >> the rackings. I may be crazy, but I was assuming that odor would go
>> >> away after fermentation. Is this normal, or has the batch bit the
>> >> dust? It taste ok, I think, but needs some aging for sure. Kind of
>> >> made me nauseated, too.

>>
>>

>
>



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Greg wrote:
> I just finished bottling a gallon batch of watermelon wine and it has
> a strong watermelon smell. It always has smelled like that, even after
> the rackings. I may be crazy, but I was assuming that odor would go
> away after fermentation. Is this normal, or has the batch bit the
> dust? It taste ok, I think, but needs some aging for sure. Kind of
> made me nauseated, too.

I'm making brussel sprout wine (it was a dare! I'll get £50 if it's
drinkable, nothing to pay out if it isn't!). My place smelled like a
dead donkey had farted while it was in the must bucket. It still smells
like flatulence when I unbung the airlock for checking (haven't dared
taste it), but is slowly losing the bad odors. I hope it loses all,
that £50 will be useful in buying more equipment.
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Good for you! I think it is always good to try something new each year.
Darlene


"alien" > wrote in message
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> Greg wrote:
>> I just finished bottling a gallon batch of watermelon wine and it has
>> a strong watermelon smell. It always has smelled like that, even after
>> the rackings. I may be crazy, but I was assuming that odor would go
>> away after fermentation. Is this normal, or has the batch bit the
>> dust? It taste ok, I think, but needs some aging for sure. Kind of
>> made me nauseated, too.

> I'm making brussel sprout wine (it was a dare! I'll get £50 if it's
> drinkable, nothing to pay out if it isn't!). My place smelled like a dead
> donkey had farted while it was in the must bucket. It still smells like
> flatulence when I unbung the airlock for checking (haven't dared taste
> it), but is slowly losing the bad odors. I hope it loses all, that £50
> will be useful in buying more equipment.



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Sure, I'm over 21 too and love to try new things. One thing I have never
tried is watermelon wine Jell-O.

Bet it would be good. :-)

David



"Dar V" > wrote in message
...
> Lol. Sure, but I'm over 21 (well a bit more than that) and I like to try

new
> things. Believe me there was a watermelon around my house to eat.
> Darlene ;o)
>
> "news-server.triad.rr.com" > wrote in message
> . com...
> > Ok here comes the KID in me...
> >
> > Have any of you ever though about using some of the watermelon wine to
> > make
> > jello or something else fun for the weekend?
> >
> > David
> >
> > "Dar V" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Greg,
> >> It is always interesting when making a wine for the first time...I was

> > ready
> >> to dump my watermelon the first time around too - the smell was just so

> > odd.
> >> So when I made it the second time, avoiding what I thought were the
> >> negatives during the first time, and it still smelled the same...heck,

> > this
> >> must be how it smells. I'm glad I didn't throw the batch out, because

I
> >> learned a lot from it. Sometimes though, it is hard to know if you're

on
> >> the right track - how something smells and tastes is a hard thing to

tell
> >> others about,
> >> Darlene
> >>
> >> "Greg" > wrote in message
> >> om...
> >> > Well, from what everyone has described, it looks like my watermelon
> >> > wine may be on track. It definitely has that very, very overripe
> >> > smell, with a high alcohol content. It also has the pinkish, redish,
> >> > orangy color, with a slight haze.
> >> >
> >> > I just bottled an elderberry a couple of weeks ago. It was delicious,
> >> > without the age. I hope we can stay away from the bottled ones for a
> >> > few months Up to be bottled in a few weeks is muscadine. During
> >> > racking, it had a good taste, too.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the feedback on the watermelon. It's been spared the drain
> >> > for a year or so.
> >> >
> >> > (Greg) wrote in message
> >> > . com>...
> >> >> I just finished bottling a gallon batch of watermelon wine and it

has
> >> >> a strong watermelon smell. It always has smelled like that, even

after
> >> >> the rackings. I may be crazy, but I was assuming that odor would go
> >> >> away after fermentation. Is this normal, or has the batch bit the
> >> >> dust? It taste ok, I think, but needs some aging for sure. Kind of
> >> >> made me nauseated, too.
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>





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I got to thinking about this post last night. I have a batch of Welch's
that I put way to much sugar in. It fermented all it could and the
remaining gravity was still 1050. I used Lalvin K1V-1116 too so it's
probably about 16-18 percent. It actually tastes like a liquour and not to
bad really but I don't care for sweet stuff.

Well I didn't want to pitch it and didn't want to drink it. So I made
Jell-O with it. Took 2 cups of the wine and added a pack of sugar free
Jell-O. I did of course add a little water because you are supposed to mix
the Jell-O with boiled water first. It worked great, made nice firm Jell-O.
I'll try it tonight. Fiancé doesn't know it has the wine in it maybe I'll
offer her a bowl and see if she likes it.

David


"news-server.triad.rr.com" > wrote in message
. com...
> Sure, I'm over 21 too and love to try new things. One thing I have never
> tried is watermelon wine Jell-O.
>
> Bet it would be good. :-)
>
> David
>
>
>
> "Dar V" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Lol. Sure, but I'm over 21 (well a bit more than that) and I like to try

> new
> > things. Believe me there was a watermelon around my house to eat.
> > Darlene ;o)
> >
> > "news-server.triad.rr.com" > wrote in message
> > . com...
> > > Ok here comes the KID in me...
> > >
> > > Have any of you ever though about using some of the watermelon wine to
> > > make
> > > jello or something else fun for the weekend?
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > "Dar V" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >> Greg,
> > >> It is always interesting when making a wine for the first time...I

was
> > > ready
> > >> to dump my watermelon the first time around too - the smell was just

so
> > > odd.
> > >> So when I made it the second time, avoiding what I thought were the
> > >> negatives during the first time, and it still smelled the

same...heck,
> > > this
> > >> must be how it smells. I'm glad I didn't throw the batch out,

because
> I
> > >> learned a lot from it. Sometimes though, it is hard to know if

you're
> on
> > >> the right track - how something smells and tastes is a hard thing to

> tell
> > >> others about,
> > >> Darlene
> > >>
> > >> "Greg" > wrote in message
> > >> om...
> > >> > Well, from what everyone has described, it looks like my watermelon
> > >> > wine may be on track. It definitely has that very, very overripe
> > >> > smell, with a high alcohol content. It also has the pinkish,

redish,
> > >> > orangy color, with a slight haze.
> > >> >
> > >> > I just bottled an elderberry a couple of weeks ago. It was

delicious,
> > >> > without the age. I hope we can stay away from the bottled ones for

a
> > >> > few months Up to be bottled in a few weeks is muscadine. During
> > >> > racking, it had a good taste, too.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks for the feedback on the watermelon. It's been spared the

drain
> > >> > for a year or so.
> > >> >
> > >> > (Greg) wrote in message
> > >> > . com>...
> > >> >> I just finished bottling a gallon batch of watermelon wine and it

> has
> > >> >> a strong watermelon smell. It always has smelled like that, even

> after
> > >> >> the rackings. I may be crazy, but I was assuming that odor would

go
> > >> >> away after fermentation. Is this normal, or has the batch bit the
> > >> >> dust? It taste ok, I think, but needs some aging for sure. Kind of
> > >> >> made me nauseated, too.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



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news-server.triad.rr.com wrote:

> I got to thinking about this post last night. I have a batch of Welch's
> that I put way to much sugar in. It fermented all it could and the
> remaining gravity was still 1050. I used Lalvin K1V-1116 too so it's
> probably about 16-18 percent. It actually tastes like a liquour and not
> to bad really but I don't care for sweet stuff.
>
> Well I didn't want to pitch it and didn't want to drink it. So I made
> Jell-O with it. Took 2 cups of the wine and added a pack of sugar free
> Jell-O. I did of course add a little water because you are supposed to
> mix the Jell-O with boiled water first. It worked great, made nice firm
> Jell-O.
> I'll try it tonight. Fiancé doesn't know it has the wine in it maybe I'll
> offer her a bowl and see if she likes it.


Hmmm - could be the next best thing to liquid panty hose remover
Let us know how she liked it.
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Interesting.... What kind of Welch's?

I am drinking a very young 35 day old niagara as we speak.

It's not too bad either.

I have a case of concord that I am preparing to start....

And a batch of strawberry-niagara that will be ready to drink just
after the new year, and a batch of Niagara Raspberry that will be
ready by this christmas....

Yeah, a bit too sweet on tha last one....I'd be afraid my son would
think it was regular grape juice and end up with alcohol poison...
LOL.

greg, erie.

(It helps having a girlfriend as a welch's employee)

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:53:26 GMT, "news-server.triad.rr.com"
> wrote:

>I got to thinking about this post last night. I have a batch of Welch's
>that I put way to much sugar in. It fermented all it could and the
>remaining gravity was still 1050. I used Lalvin K1V-1116 too so it's
>probably about 16-18 percent. It actually tastes like a liquour and not to
>bad really but I don't care for sweet stuff.
>
>Well I didn't want to pitch it and didn't want to drink it. So I made
>Jell-O with it. Took 2 cups of the wine and added a pack of sugar free
>Jell-O. I did of course add a little water because you are supposed to mix
>the Jell-O with boiled water first. It worked great, made nice firm Jell-O.
>I'll try it tonight. Fiancé doesn't know it has the wine in it maybe I'll
>offer her a bowl and see if she likes it.
>
>David
>
>
>"news-server.triad.rr.com" > wrote in message
.com...
>> Sure, I'm over 21 too and love to try new things. One thing I have never
>> tried is watermelon wine Jell-O.
>>
>> Bet it would be good. :-)
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dar V" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Lol. Sure, but I'm over 21 (well a bit more than that) and I like to try

>> new
>> > things. Believe me there was a watermelon around my house to eat.
>> > Darlene ;o)
>> >
>> > "news-server.triad.rr.com" > wrote in message
>> > . com...
>> > > Ok here comes the KID in me...
>> > >
>> > > Have any of you ever though about using some of the watermelon wine to
>> > > make
>> > > jello or something else fun for the weekend?
>> > >
>> > > David
>> > >
>> > > "Dar V" > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> > >> Greg,
>> > >> It is always interesting when making a wine for the first time...I

>was
>> > > ready
>> > >> to dump my watermelon the first time around too - the smell was just

>so
>> > > odd.
>> > >> So when I made it the second time, avoiding what I thought were the
>> > >> negatives during the first time, and it still smelled the

>same...heck,
>> > > this
>> > >> must be how it smells. I'm glad I didn't throw the batch out,

>because
>> I
>> > >> learned a lot from it. Sometimes though, it is hard to know if

>you're
>> on
>> > >> the right track - how something smells and tastes is a hard thing to

>> tell
>> > >> others about,
>> > >> Darlene
>> > >>
>> > >> "Greg" > wrote in message
>> > >> om...
>> > >> > Well, from what everyone has described, it looks like my watermelon
>> > >> > wine may be on track. It definitely has that very, very overripe
>> > >> > smell, with a high alcohol content. It also has the pinkish,

>redish,
>> > >> > orangy color, with a slight haze.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I just bottled an elderberry a couple of weeks ago. It was

>delicious,
>> > >> > without the age. I hope we can stay away from the bottled ones for

>a
>> > >> > few months Up to be bottled in a few weeks is muscadine. During
>> > >> > racking, it had a good taste, too.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks for the feedback on the watermelon. It's been spared the

>drain
>> > >> > for a year or so.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > (Greg) wrote in message
>> > >> > . com>...
>> > >> >> I just finished bottling a gallon batch of watermelon wine and it

>> has
>> > >> >> a strong watermelon smell. It always has smelled like that, even

>> after
>> > >> >> the rackings. I may be crazy, but I was assuming that odor would

>go
>> > >> >> away after fermentation. Is this normal, or has the batch bit the
>> > >> >> dust? It taste ok, I think, but needs some aging for sure. Kind of
>> > >> >> made me nauseated, too.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>



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Well, she smelled it and said "What the hell is in that, vodka?" She
hast tried it yet though. I have and it
s pretty good. But no panty hose removed tonight, perhaps tomorrow.
David

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Well, she smelled it and said "What the hell is in that, vodka?" She
hast tried it yet though. I have and it
s pretty good. But no panty hose removed tonight, perhaps tomorrow.
David



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This was a red Welch's grape cocktail. I have tried the concord too
which is better. I actually picked up the cocktail by mistake but
decided to ferment it anyway. I Kind of just did the Welch's as
experiments. I tried the juice form a kit once and thought to myself
"this tastes like Welch's". I have heard good things about the Niagara
and will probably try it eventually.

David

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This was a red Welch's grape cocktail. I have tried the concord too
which is better. I actually picked up the cocktail by mistake but
decided to ferment it anyway. I Kind of just did the Welch's as
experiments. I tried the juice form a kit once and thought to myself
"this tastes like Welch's". I have heard good things about the Niagara
and will probably try it eventually.

David

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