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Bland wine kit
I have had very good results with my own grapes and cans of juice
(Alexander) and decided to try a 6 gallon Kit. It is a Winexpert Merlot. I have read repeatedly that a kit should be made exactly according to the instructions for the first time. (Unfortunately, I did not follow the "extended" instructions on Keller's website). This wine kit started out with a very low s.g. of 1.080 and very low acid. It is now at day 32 and I find it to be very very bland! The acid is about .55%, pH is about 3.4 and does not seem to have much tannin (in addition to the low abv). I plan to bulk age it for at least a few more months ( in addition to at least 60 days in the bottle to recover from bottle shock). At this point I need to live with the low achohol but I think I need to add at least 1 1/2 tsp of tannin and at least a few tsp of tartaric acid. I can check it again in 30 days at the next racking. Is there any reason why I should not do this? Is it too late to add tannin and acid? Is Is there a better way to salvage this wine? (On the next kit, I plan to boost the tannin, acid, and s.g. prior to primary fermentation.) Thanks in advance, Roger L. Pelletier , Aurora, NE USA |
Bland wine kit
Wino-Nouveau wrote: > I have had very good results with my own grapes and cans of juice > (Alexander) and decided to try a 6 gallon Kit. It is a Winexpert > Merlot. I have read repeatedly that a kit should be made exactly > according to the instructions for the first time. (Unfortunately, I did > not follow the "extended" instructions on Keller's website). > > This wine kit started out with a very low s.g. of 1.080 and very low > acid. It is now at day 32 and I find it to be very very bland! The > acid is about .55%, pH is about 3.4 and does not seem to have much > tannin (in addition to the low abv). > > I plan to bulk age it for at least a few more months ( in addition to > at least 60 days in the bottle to recover from bottle shock). At this > point I need to live with the low achohol but I think I need to add at > least 1 1/2 tsp of tannin and at least a few tsp of tartaric acid. I > can check it again in 30 days at the next racking. > > Is there any reason why I should not do this? Is it too late to add > tannin and acid? Is Is there a better way to salvage this wine? (On > the next kit, I plan to boost the tannin, acid, and s.g. prior to > primary fermentation.) > > Thanks in advance, > Roger L. Pelletier , Aurora, NE USA Any chance you've added too much water in the beginning? The numbers sound low. FYI - you can't reliably measure TA on kit wines before fermentation - something in the processing makes some amount of acid bound to other things and this onl gets released during fermentation. After ferment, the TA canbe measure correctly. I don't see any problem in anyone adjusting wine to their taste - that's how it sholud be done. If you add tartaric acid and don't want to get bitartrate crystals in bottle, you'll have to cold stabilize. Pp |
Bland wine kit
Thanks for the reply Pp.
Yes , the water was ok and I made sure I mixed everything extremely well. The instructions said it should be between 1.070 and 1.085 so the 1.080 seemed ok at the time. But, later I noticed that this is only 10.6% abv. You cleared up something that I was confused about. I checked the TA before fermentation started and got a real crazy result (even after I did it serveral times and even after opening a fresh bottle of Sodium hydroxide). Now I know why. Thanks for pointing this out to me. Maybe I'll skip the acid adjustment and just add some tannin. Looks like if I had added tannin and adjusted the s.g. prior to fermentation (like the "extended" kit instructions suggest) I would have been okay. Oh well, live and learn. Thanks again for your assistance. Roger L. Pelletier , Aurora, NE USA |
Bland wine kit
My experience with kit wines is that the more "full-bodied" varieties never
really have enough tannin. This is probably due more to the quick extraction methods at the factory than anything you did or did not do. A "big" California cab is almost always macerated on the skins for weeks to get full extraction and something you will not get with a kit. Also, I would never add tannin after primary fermentation. I've found that dried grape tannin never really "takes" to a finished wine and only adds a disharmonious bitter flavor. You could, however, try adding a bit of acid (tartaric, not acid blend). This will add some tartness. A couple of other things you might try: 1. bulk aging for a couple of months on medium-toast oak chips or cubes will add some natural tannin back into the finished wine. Don't overdo it, though. A medium bodied wine will not gain anything from heavy oaking, other than a plywood smell. I've found that Stavin cubes work very well. 2. If the wine tastes fine otherwise, hold it and blend with something more full-bodied, like a cabernet or shiraz kit down the road - cabernet and merlot make a great classic blend. You can easily bulk age your wine for a year or more, provided you keep it topped up and make minute sulfite additions from time to time. The hardest part is avoiding the temptation to drink it. :-) Personally, I would probably choose to live with it as is and simply chalk it up as a lesson learned. Steve K "Wino-Nouveau" > wrote in message oups.com... >I have had very good results with my own grapes and cans of juice > (Alexander) and decided to try a 6 gallon Kit. It is a Winexpert > Merlot. I have read repeatedly that a kit should be made exactly > according to the instructions for the first time. (Unfortunately, I did > not follow the "extended" instructions on Keller's website). > > This wine kit started out with a very low s.g. of 1.080 and very low > acid. It is now at day 32 and I find it to be very very bland! The > acid is about .55%, pH is about 3.4 and does not seem to have much > tannin (in addition to the low abv). > > I plan to bulk age it for at least a few more months ( in addition to > at least 60 days in the bottle to recover from bottle shock). At this > point I need to live with the low achohol but I think I need to add at > least 1 1/2 tsp of tannin and at least a few tsp of tartaric acid. I > can check it again in 30 days at the next racking. > > Is there any reason why I should not do this? Is it too late to add > tannin and acid? Is Is there a better way to salvage this wine? (On > the next kit, I plan to boost the tannin, acid, and s.g. prior to > primary fermentation.) > > Thanks in advance, > Roger L. Pelletier , Aurora, NE USA > |
Bland wine kit
Thanks Steve ... Your response was very helpful.
When I tasted the merlot the other day, I had been enjoying a full bodied tannic wine. I tried the merlot again the next day on an "clean palate" and it was not all that bad (it seemed balance abeit low alchohol, low acid, low tannin). I decided to leave it alone and drink it young. My next kit is a Heron Bay Chianti with french oak. I think that will be more to my liking. Again, thanks for the feedback. Roger L. Pelletier, Aurora, NE USA |
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