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Instead of adding water to and Island Mist kit to make 23L for a sweet
wine of 6,5% alcohol,I added only so much water to make it 10.5% alc.
I will add the full contents of the F-pack to get a wine closer to an
Ice wine (imitation) than to an original Island Mist wine. Anybody has
done that or has anything against doing that?

TIA,
Guy

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guy wrote:
> Instead of adding water to and Island Mist kit to make 23L for a sweet
> wine of 6,5% alcohol,I added only so much water to make it 10.5% alc.
> I will add the full contents of the F-pack to get a wine closer to an
> Ice wine (imitation) than to an original Island Mist wine. Anybody has
> done that or has anything against doing that?
>
> TIA,
> Guy



I really don't think it will have any similar flavors than the one you
should find in a decent icewine. If you want to make a dessert wine
closer to an icewine you should do a cryoextraction of a fresh juice or
grapes.

Séb

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Séb wrote:
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> I really don't think it will have any similar flavors than the one you
> should find in a decent icewine. If you want to make a dessert wine
> closer to an icewine you should do a cryoextraction of a fresh juice or
> grapes.


Séb, I am not trying to replicate a real icewine, only a wine from an
icewine kit which I made and tasted recently.

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I understand but the icewine kit have some similar flavors than real
icewine which I beleive you will not got from an Island Mist. It will
be a sweet dessert type wine with fruity flavors ( depending on your
selection of Island Mist ) but nothing close to the Icewine kit. If
you really do want to make it, try a variety like the Peach abricot
Chardonnay as theses fruits flavors are normally found in icewine and
it should be closer to the Icewine Kit. But why not making the Icewine
kit that you tried ? This way, you will not be disapointed.

Séb

> Séb, I am not trying to replicate a real icewine, only a wine from an
> icewine kit which I made and tasted recently.
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> If you really do want to make it, try a variety like the Peach abricot
> Chardonnay as theses fruits flavors are normally found in icne and
> it should be closer to the Icewine Kit. But why not making the Icewine
> kit that you tried ? This way, you will not be disapointed.



My kit is a Riesling with apple. Riesling is used for Icewine in
germany, and in Québec we have Pomme de Glace. I really like the
Icewine I made, but I just have to try to make "Icewice" wit that
Island Mist... just for my own satisfaction!

Guy



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Séb wrote:

> If you really do want to make it, try a variety like the Peach abricot
> Chardonnay as theses fruits flavors are normally found in icne and
> it should be closer to the Icewine Kit. But why not making the Icewine
> kit that you tried ? This way, you will not be disapointed.



My kit is a Riesling with apple. Riesling is used for Icewine in
germany, and in Québec we have Pomme de Glace. I really like the
Icewine I made, but I just have to try to make "Icewice" wit that
Island Mist... just for my own satisfaction!

Guy

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Guy:

If you want to make an ice wine from a kit...buy an ice wine kit.
There are some good ones out there. So far, I prefer Vineco's Ken
Ridge Classic white ice wine. However, the clear winner at the recent
Winemaker awards was a Vidal Ice wine from Spagnols. I have not tried
it.

You can, however, turn the Island Mist kit into a DESSERT WINE,
similar to an ice wine. I have not done this with Island Mist, but I
have done it with Niagara Mist, and things should work the same.

I made the base as a less than 11 litre batch so that I could use a 3
gallon/11 litre carboy. Not certain what exact size, but would guess
about 10 litres. Then made it as per usual. Used all the additives,
and all of the F-pack.

The first time I used one package of yeast (EC-1118) and fermentation
was very slow. The second time I added a second package and it
seemed faster.

The customer really likes the Peach Chardonnay dessert wine, and has
said that she will probably do another in the future. I found the
Strawberry White Zin that we did for ourselves a bit strong in the
strawberry flavour. Would probably use 2/3 to 3/4 of the F pack if
there is a next time. (My wife has recently found out that she is
diabetic, so we'll have to avoid neat stuff like ice & dessert wines.
Not that we drank a lot of it.)

Steve

On 21 Jun 2006 07:37:39 -0700, "guy" > wrote:

>Instead of adding water to and Island Mist kit to make 23L for a sweet
>wine of 6,5% alcohol,I added only so much water to make it 10.5% alc.
>I will add the full contents of the F-pack to get a wine closer to an
>Ice wine (imitation) than to an original Island Mist wine. Anybody has
>done that or has anything against doing that?
>
>TIA,
>Guy


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Thanks Séb and Steve for your replies.

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...and in Québec we have Pomme de Glace.

I am from Québec, Trois-Rivières city. Nice to see someone else from
Qc here.

For your wine, try it if you really want. You won't loose too much
money if you got problem anyway. Experimentation is the way to go but
I just wanted to let you know what it should really produce at the end.

Séb

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