I decided last spring it was time to prune the poor producing vines. and I
did a real thorough job. However, now it is late June and the new vines are
taking over the area. Is it alright to prune the ends of a few of the
vines and they are really going like they were on steroids. I guess the
pruning tripped the growing. I would guess next year, all things going
right I should have ample grapes.

You should be pruning your vines every winter while dormant, usually a few
weeks before expected bud break. Use that opportunity to train them in
accordance with whatever trellis / canopy systems you intend. Once they are
growing vigorously, it is common to 'hedge' them, to try and keep plant
growth in balance with grape production.
I'd recommend you join a grape growers association, or get hold of a few
good books. Vines are easy to grow - growing them for quality wine grapes is
a lot harder.

Whereabouts are you? In most parts, you should already have seen your vines
flower, and should by now have early stage grape clusters.



"Joseph Toubes" > wrote in message
news:XOHog.53538$1i1.3372@attbi_s72...
>I decided last spring it was time to prune the poor producing vines. and I
> did a real thorough job. However, now it is late June and the new vines
> are
> taking over the area. Is it alright to prune the ends of a few of the
> vines and they are really going like they were on steroids. I guess the
> pruning tripped the growing. I would guess next year, all things going
> right I should have ample grapes.
>
>

I am in Central Iowa, Des Moines and I did get about 4 groups flowering.
The vine was very neglected and needed a serious haircut.

I am anticipating that next year will be the flowering year as this year
looks like the plant is producing vines for that purpose. I will give it
some thought on which get the trim and which are going to do its thing.

appreciate the help.
"Ric" > wrote in message
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You should be pruning your vines every winter while dormant, usually a few
weeks before expected bud break. Use that opportunity to train them in
accordance with whatever trellis / canopy systems you intend. Once they are
growing vigorously, it is common to 'hedge' them, to try and keep plant
growth in balance with grape production.
I'd recommend you join a grape growers association, or get hold of a few
good books. Vines are easy to grow - growing them for quality wine grapes is
a lot harder.

Whereabouts are you? In most parts, you should already have seen your vines
flower, and should by now have early stage grape clusters.



"Joseph Toubes" > wrote in message
news:XOHog.53538$1i1.3372@attbi_s72...
>I decided last spring it was time to prune the poor producing vines. and I
> did a real thorough job. However, now it is late June and the new vines
> are
> taking over the area. Is it alright to prune the ends of a few of the
> vines and they are really going like they were on steroids. I guess the
> pruning tripped the growing. I would guess next year, all things going
> right I should have ample grapes.
>
>

Joseph - Get a copy of "From Vines to Wines" by Jeff Cox. It has a good
section on pruning vines.
Bill Frazier
Olathe, Kansas USA

"Joseph Toubes" > wrote in message
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>I am in Central Iowa, Des Moines and I did get about 4 groups flowering.
> The vine was very neglected and needed a serious haircut.
>
> I am anticipating that next year will be the flowering year as this year
> looks like the plant is producing vines for that purpose. I will give it
> some thought on which get the trim and which are going to do its thing.
>
> appreciate the help.
> "Ric" > wrote in message
> .com...
> You should be pruning your vines every winter while dormant, usually a few
> weeks before expected bud break. Use that opportunity to train them in
> accordance with whatever trellis / canopy systems you intend. Once they
> are
> growing vigorously, it is common to 'hedge' them, to try and keep plant
> growth in balance with grape production.
> I'd recommend you join a grape growers association, or get hold of a few
> good books. Vines are easy to grow - growing them for quality wine grapes
> is
> a lot harder.
>
> Whereabouts are you? In most parts, you should already have seen your
> vines
> flower, and should by now have early stage grape clusters.
>
>
>
> "Joseph Toubes" > wrote in message
> news:XOHog.53538$1i1.3372@attbi_s72...
>>I decided last spring it was time to prune the poor producing vines. and
>>I
>> did a real thorough job. However, now it is late June and the new vines
>> are
>> taking over the area. Is it alright to prune the ends of a few of the
>> vines and they are really going like they were on steroids. I guess the
>> pruning tripped the growing. I would guess next year, all things going
>> right I should have ample grapes.
>>
>>
>
>
>

Joseph,

How old is this vine?? Does it have a big trunk or multiple trunks
coming out of the ground??? Grapevines produce fruit from the buds of
last years growth. It sounds to me like you cut all of last years
growth off which would induce the vine to grow alot of vegetation and
few grapes.My simple solution: Each "shoot" that is growing now has
the potential to produce fruit next year for each bud on that shoot.
Depending on the age and size of the vine, you would leave only 20-60
buds next year and prune off the rest. Then I would adjust the next
year accordingly. IOW,if you decide to leave 60 buds, next year when
you prune ,the shoots growing this year will be considered "canes"
after they turn to 1 year old wood. You could either leave say, four
15 bud canes or thirty 2 bud canes to get the same 60 buds. Play around
with it

Hope this helps.

Bob



Joseph Toubes wrote:
> I decided last spring it was time to prune the poor producing vines. and I
> did a real thorough job. However, now it is late June and the new vines are
> taking over the area. Is it alright to prune the ends of a few of the
> vines and they are really going like they were on steroids. I guess the
> pruning tripped the growing. I would guess next year, all things going
> right I should have ample grapes.

Don't be shy in the pruning. Bob is right on the numbers, but you'll
look at that and say "that can't be enough buds!". I have a friend who
is afraid to prune his vines correctly, and he ends up with a lot of
unripe fruit at the end of the year, since the vines can't ripen that
much. "Vines to Wines" does a great job in explaining this.

Rob

I see .. Ithink the vines need a bit of a hair cut .. There is little fruit
now, I am betting that next year will produce it .
"Rob" > wrote in message
ps.com...
Don't be shy in the pruning. Bob is right on the numbers, but you'll
look at that and say "that can't be enough buds!". I have a friend who
is afraid to prune his vines correctly, and he ends up with a lot of
unripe fruit at the end of the year, since the vines can't ripen that
much. "Vines to Wines" does a great job in explaining this.

Rob